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Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

I assume there will be separate BPs for seasonal events with extra coins each season, they couldn't be stupid enough to bungle the launch that badly.

Oh goodness, separate premium BPs for each seasonal event! I hadn't even considered that, it's devious!

# ¿ Sep 16, 2022 18:17

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:33

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Jack Trades posted:

Roadhog is and has always been just a fat DPS.

ACTUALLY it's not the Tanks job to do DPS; this is why Geoff decimated Roadhog's ability to deal damage to help balance the game correctly before introducing Brig.

_{Geoff is still lead character designer}
^{how is that possible}

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 15:25

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

Apparently you can't even make that kind of choice now as a consumer?

If you think this is bad, just wait until you hear about Babylon's Fall and Anthem.

Overwatch 2 is also totally overhauling the loot system. Loot boxes are out, battle passes are in.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 19:47

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

Anyways, is it still fun to play as Junkrat/Roadhog/Mercy in OW2, at least? Those are my main picks for each of the class roles in OW1.

They made Junkrat take a bath so he isn't covered in soot anymore, and they made him put on pants.

They ruined him, I'm sorry you had to find out this way. :australia:

# ¿ Sep 17, 2022 20:43

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Herstory Begins Now posted:

hamster was the same way. i remember someone making a similar case with it where OW had all these fairly fleshed out characters that were hugely popular with fans... and then they just released a loving hamster ball? what?

They never really bothered to give Hammond any supporting media iirc, which is disappointing since it's a tiny genius hamster who only wants to break things and watch the world burn.

Come to think of it, the last big piece of OW media was Mei's cinematic, which unfortunately got upstaged by a Junkrat short that looks like it was animated in GMod. After that, we stopped getting big things like the Sombra ARG.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2022 01:06

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

grieving for Gandalf posted:

I feel like if you play Overwatch enough to complain about queue times, you play enough to have several mains per role

I reinstalled my PS4 copy to see if I had any coins to spend and tried to play Mystery Heroes with a PlayStation Preference queue.

I waited over ten minutes for a game before I resigned myself to getting zapped by M+KB kids. In conclusion, :itwaspoo:

# ¿ Sep 19, 2022 14:47

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

You forgot to add 'PvE(???)' to the title. ~~I may have missed it, but I didn't see any mention of PvE in your post, either.~~ Maybe make the mention of PvE it's own little subsection instead of a single sentence.

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 19, 2022

# ¿ Sep 19, 2022 18:50

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1572320100035842049?t=l8cz56XdRM6rcyDQN0Zilw&s=19

I would like to wish Geoff a very why did you ruin Roadhog you turd and wish him luck in future endeavors.

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 20, 2022

# ¿ Sep 20, 2022 21:25

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

headcase posted:

I think there are 2 cohorts in this game.

~50% want to play a 3d, first person, team ability game. You can try to do the gun aiming thing if you want to, but you will be a bit handicapped for it. A lot of these people like playing support and tank.

~50% want to be an FPS god character in a game where they are well supported and have a tank to engage for them. In this game they get direct sight lines to the helpless enemy supports so they can make hero plays and all of their supporting cast can cheer them on. When a support starts winning duels in a way that doesn't involve headshots, "the game is broken."

Lets say the top cohort is split roughly evenly between roles, the second cohort is the one ruining the DPS queue.

Why not play valorant? Because it's it's a better ego stroke to be a ninja sniper in a world of mercies.

This is completely ignoring ing the 50% of players who gave up on Blizzard ever managing to balance a team shooter and have all their hopes riding on PvE not being a complete tire fire!

AND the 69% who only follow the game for dead-eyed SFM porn!

Apologize this instant, jerk. :mad:

# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 02:23

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Macaluso posted:

Ya know I will say, for as bad as the battle pass is and the poo poo with heroes being locked to it and all that, I am quite happy for lootboxes to be removed from the arcade modes as an incentive to win. It really made mystery heroes into what should be a goofy gently caress around mode, into just a bad time because getting lootboxed depended on you winning this complete roll of the dice game mode. Now there's nothing on the line and these mods can just exist for the sake of being goofy fun

Is it? Have we actually seen what the daily challenges are going to be? Depending on whether the daily challenge is to play or win a game of MH, you could actually end up in a worse spot where some poopsocker who normally wouldn't bother with a 'casual' mode like MH now has to win to fill the battle pass.

Wheeee posted:

They’ve been pretty open in the past about Overwatch being so heavily weighted toward ultimates in part because they want to give players a rush from pressing q at the right time to delete someone or completely block the other team from killing you, irrespective of how the match has been going for you in general.

And that’s fine, the problem is that Blizzard decided to push their wacky unbalanced arena shooter shitshow as a competitive game, and Overwatch is on so many levels just absolutely not well designed as a competitive game.

That's the corner the game has painted itself into. Maybe things can improve with Geoff gone and a sizable influx of new players, but that's a ways off at best.

I know my harping on the PvE mode(s) sounds like a bit by now, but I genuinely think it's going to be a necessary alternative for sustaining interest once the game starts demanding engagement through the Battle Pass.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 17:36

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Countblanc posted:

Ah ok good the way it was being discussed at the same time as buying the premiumn pass sort of blurred it.

No, the premium just automatically unlocks it iirc

# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 21:05

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Jack Trades posted:

No.
You get a reward like every 5th level if you grind without paying.
You can pay to be able to grind for all the "rewards" from every other level.
You can also additionally pay to skip the grind.

I was referring to the new character.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 22:00

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Wheeee posted:

Everyone should just play Deep Rock Galactic and chill

I would but I got burnt out trying to grind the battle pass. :suicide:

Countblanc posted:

OW2 needs more interactions like the dwarves where they say poo poo like "about time, fat boy". enough wholesome friendly characters, make everyone salty and tired of each other's poo poo

In an ideal PvE game where you could pick any character, this would be most of the interactions (eg - Tracer & Widowmaker, Torb & Bastion, Sombra & the rest of the cast). But back when the first Jeff was still here he implied the game had a max of 8 selectable characters so who knows how far down the pipes that dream is.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 14:07

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Jack B Nimble posted:

You know, it's gonna be hard to to do a winston dive when he's the only tank : (

Three months from now: Winston is now a Pet/Summoner class. The shield generator follows you around and is always on, but it continually gets smaller unless you engage in digital pet mini games in the middle of pitched combat to keep it happy and full.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 15:44

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Just incredible how Blizzard tanked all that good will by pivoting hard to 1) eSports, and 2) developing the sequel, instead of focusing on characters and story via constant updates.

Also the thing how they fostered a frat like culture of serial sexual harassment, that was kinda the big potato.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2022 13:06

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

hahahahaha

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1574806609116684293?s=20&t=Qj_vKSZWa8w5b82SR5gnWQ

You also have to have a working phone number to tie to your account.

I know it's a cheating prevention thing, but I like to imagine it's Blizzard doubling down on "do you guys not have phones?" :3:

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Sep 27, 2022

# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 18:28

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Jack Trades posted:

I still can't believe they're releasing OW2 already.
Most of the tanks haven't even been touched to compensate for a 1 tank slot change.

Weren't a bunch of changes for all tanks and healers going live with the launch of OW2?

# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 19:00

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Jack Trades posted:

Sure, they got slightly more health and shield, when releveant, but that barely counts.
What the gently caress is Hammond gonna do as main tank? Or Roadhog?

Serve as trap options for players who don't know better outside of a few edge cases.

Geoff is only just now gone, it's going to be a while before they find a new neckbeard to steer the game's design philosophy into a different iceberg.

adhuin posted:

Hog is in the bad place though. Big target, not much killing power and always being antihealed.

That's one last 'gently caress You' from Geoff on the way out.

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Sep 27, 2022

# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 19:18

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

adhuin posted:

No account level borders and no showing player ranks pre-match? How am I gonna pre-judge team-Genji as trash now?

Just prejudge every Genji like a sane, rational person.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 19:22

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Whitenoise Poster posted:

This is getting so insanely, ridiculously bad to the point I'm convinced this is going to be the biggest financial success in video games in decades. It'll be the death of video games as worth any time from real people.

... and then a hacker finds out they kept everyone's CC info and phone numbers in a .txt file and that will be the end of Blizzard.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 20:21

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Also lol; "Overwatch 2 VP Interested In Exploring Brand Collaborations, Cites Fortnite's Naruto Crossover"

Can't wait to see Tracer and Lucio all kitted up in the next Call of Duty Shootermans, ooh rah!

# ¿ Sep 28, 2022 13:16

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

adhuin posted:

Get 100 Torb hammer kills should be a lifetime goal, that gives you a special spray or something.

Is that a seasonal goal? Are they introducing a LTM that's Fff/Torb only/hammers only?

# ¿ Sep 29, 2022 16:53

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

The F2P unlock system looks like every detail from the initial cocktail napkin pitch was taken as sacred gospel when it was meant to be iterated out.

Junkrat, one of the most braindead simple classes to play, is less of a priority to get into the hands of new players than Ana and Widowmaker.

https://www.pcgamer.com/i-played-overwatch-2-on-a-new-account-and-the-hero-grind-sucks/

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You start with a handful of heroes in each of Overwatch's three roles: four tanks, six damage, and three support. ... if you want to try anyone else from the original cast, you need to start queuing up for games. One game will clear Genji for play, two for D.Va, three for Cassidy, four for Ana, and so on, all the way up to 150 games for Echo.

The order of hero unlocks doesn't have an obvious logic to it. Genji is a popular character so I can understand why he'd be first, but he's also a highly-mobile, projectile-based flanker hero that takes a long time to learn how to be effective on him; an actually new player would be much better suited with a hero like Mei, who for some reason takes a whole 70 games to unlock. It looks like Blizzard tried to line them up based on both popularity and difficulty without realizing that's not necessarily how people choose what heroes they want to play.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2022 14:50

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Herstory Begins Now posted:

I'm sure it will be a good experience being a new player on widowmaker

Tbf Widowmaker could be getting a major Day 1 patch to make her more accessible to new players.

quote:

PATCH NOTES:

Widowmaker
- Selecting Widowmaker dismisses the player from the team and opens the web browser to Pornhub's 'SFM' tab.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2022 15:18

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:33

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Time Crisis Actor posted:

Dinoflask back after a several year hiatus

https://youtu.be/q7RMtDpxtfw

That was surprisingly harsh and bleak. I had an ugly laugh at "I wasn't making my weekly sexual assault targets."

# ¿ Oct 2, 2022 01:07

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