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Tuxedo Gin posted:because the infrastructure in place is insufficient for modern traffic/living situations and in many places there's physically no room left for new lanes move out of the inner city dum dum
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A high speed line up each coast would be accessible by like 80% of the population*. *number pulled from rear end, but probably pretty accurate.
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The population density is too low. You would have to drive for 40 minutes to the station, as opposed to walking taking/public transport to get there. You might as well take a plane at that point. Basically it will happen when you somehow manage to round up all Americans and shove them into communist style concrete hellscape that the rest of the world lives in.
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May 29, 2016 18:05
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You have to drive (admittedly less) to the airport as well, but then no three hours in security line and zero chance you get a hand up your rear end.
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BluPotato posted:they just need to be sold right, I mean I live in a state that turned down government money to build high speed rail because of things?! i assume you're from ohio and that rail was like, barely faster than just driving to the place my man and if youre speeding like a cool person it wasnt faster
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The Acela is a high speed train. It can only high speed for some small fraction of the trip because it has to share 100 year old tracks with freight and regular commuter rail. We'd need to eminent domain a bloody hole through the country to get actual fast.
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also yo canada doesnt have no high speed rail and i thought they were cooler than us??? guess not
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SurfaceDetail posted:move out of the inner city dum dum i live in a rural census area with a population of <10k doesn't mean we shouldn't have well managed infrastructure in and between cities. the solution to poor urban planning isn't "cities and suburbs are too expensive - create exurbs and commute by car into the cities"
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Germstore posted:You have to drive (admittedly less) to the airport as well, but then no three hours in security line and zero chance you get a hand up your rear end. Don't worry, if enough non-poors start riding trains the TSA will make rail travel miserable too.
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happyhippy posted:http://www.citylab.com/politics/2013/11/how-republicans-killed-americas-high-speed-rail-plan/7458/ Thank you for proving my point about how dumb you are. You are really dumb. I'm talking borderline retarded here.
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Elukka posted:I don't get this NO BUT AMERICA IS SO BIG TRAINS CAN'T WORK!! thing. Yeah, there's huge tracts of sparsely populated territory. Those are not the places anyone wants to build high speed rail in. Yeah good luck buying up the necessary land in Manhattan or DC and getting all the neighbors on board
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May 29, 2016 19:20
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Mange Mite posted:Yeah good luck buying up the necessary land in Manhattan or DC and getting all the neighbors on board Yeah- uh- someone should get on getting a train station in manhattan and dc-
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Germstore posted:Yeah- uh- someone should get on getting a train station in manhattan and dc- We have trains in those places, and millions of people use those trains every year. If we SHUT IT DOWN to replace everything with faster trains, it would be absolute chaos.
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May 29, 2016 19:38
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i would like fast trains too. but yeah the current railways are poo poo and it doesn't seem like the higher ups actually want to pay for the work to fix things so our trains are gonna be stuck living in the 1870s for a long time.
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Mange Mite posted:Yeah good luck buying up the necessary land in Manhattan or DC and getting all the neighbors on board
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May 29, 2016 20:02
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Trains are terrible. America is wise not to build any. They are late all the time, when there is any kind of "bad" (rain, heat, wind) weather they just stop running altogether.
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May 29, 2016 20:03
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Elukka posted:Are you confusing high speed rail with, like, trams? Im saying anywhere with a dense population doesn't need high speed rail
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May 29, 2016 20:29
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Elon Musk planned to build the Hyperloop thing between Wien and Bratislava. People are dumb enough to bitch about Musk being crooked and poo poo. Trains are good, people are dumb. If there were proper speed trains I wouldn't even consider flying under current conditions. Can't drive a train into a skyscraper right ?
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May 29, 2016 20:52
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Mange Mite posted:Im saying anywhere with a dense population doesn't need high speed rail Like Japan.
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There was going to be a high speed rail line running from Chicago/Milwaukee/Madison/Minneapolis-St Paul, and the previous governor of WI and mayor of Milwaukee had gone through a lot of effort and invested state money to bring a large train manufacturing company to Milwaukee County and secured over $800 million federal stimulus money to build the rail line. Then Walker got elected. He said he would only take the stimulus money if it could be used to improve one existing train line and state roads, which of course was never going to happen and he knew it. It was a "rejection of wasteful government spending" where he stops a very promising project and lets the money get dumped into California's rail line projects; therefor it still gets spent but he robbed his own state of the jobs and mass transit it would have provided. Then he refused to pay the train manufacturer for the trains the state had ordered for the high speed rail line, costing that company over $50 million. It would probably be at least partially completed by now if he hadn't been elected. Acid Haze fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 21:25
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Like Japan. Tabula rasa in 1945.
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And jeez, currently-slow amtrak ain't even worth it. was just planning a vacay for later this year and I always look at train prices because riding a train can be very pleasant even if it takes longer--2 tix that run through a single line are barely cheaper than 2 plane tickets that'll get you to the same place in like 1/5th of the time. I imagine new high speed rail tickets are gonna be PRICEY. My GF lived in Nagoya for a grip, she and her friends would just take the bus to Tokyo than pay the premium to get on the shinkansen.
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May 29, 2016 21:55
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Just stick some luxury passenger cars onto freight trains where you can get a whole cabin at megabus prices, jeez
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Like Japan. Were talking the us not places nobody cares about.
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Misc posted:And jeez, currently-slow amtrak ain't even worth it. was just planning a vacay for later this year and I always look at train prices because riding a train can be very pleasant even if it takes longer--2 tix that run through a single line are barely cheaper than 2 plane tickets that'll get you to the same place in like 1/5th of the time. I imagine new high speed rail tickets are gonna be PRICEY. My GF lived in Nagoya for a grip, she and her friends would just take the bus to Tokyo than pay the premium to get on the shinkansen. The northeast regional's business class is pretty alright.
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the richest country on the planet can't do something because
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Chinatown posted:trains are dumb trains don't disappear into the ocean though
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Acid Haze posted:There was going to be a high speed rail line running from Chicago/Milwaukee/Madison/Minneapolis-St Paul, and the previous governor of WI and mayor of Milwaukee had gone through a lot of effort and invested state money to bring a large train manufacturing company to Milwaukee County and secured over $800 million federal stimulus money to build the rail line. lol Rick Scott in FL did the same exact thing. poo poo yes I would use rail in florida. Their highways were my biggest nightmare in the world to drive on. Imapanda fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 29, 2016 |
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Mange Mite posted:Because we should be more like enlightened topless europe Skinny hairy armpit 6/10 topless beaky nosed women for all 
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kazr posted:the richest country on the planet can't do something because You dont get rich by wasting money
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May 29, 2016 23:56
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I live in the UK and get the train to work. It is almost always on time... Perhaps we have a secret fascist government? 
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Mange Mite posted:Embrace high speed grains, op. This is how fast my dick rises when I think about Daisy Ridley 
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Parity warning posted:Embracing a high speed train sounds dangerous op but thankfully Americans have too much common sense for that Americans don't have enough common sense to avoid regular trains, much less high speed ones 
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more rails for me to jo on plz
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May 30, 2016 04:38
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Jenner killed somebody with her car and was then named "Woman of the Year," so America has already pretty emphatically embraced them.
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Harveygod posted:Jenner killed somebody with her car and was then named "Woman of the Year," so America has already pretty emphatically embraced them. If a normal guy killed someone with their car and then cut their dick off people would say there were insane, but bruce is made lady of the year
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When is America going to embrace investing in national infrastructure?
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