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Poker is one of the most popular games in the world, and one study found that 6.8% of the adult world population plays poker regularly, and the majority of people in western cultures have played some variety of poker in their lifetime. No Limit Texas Hold'em is currently the most popular variety of poker played competitively, but there are other variants, including five card draw, Stud Poker, Omaha, and many more. Many players play in small home games for fun or cash, while others play online or in casinos. Online games can be played for fun or pennies, while major tournaments are now hosting events with entries up to one million dollars, and underground and casino backroom games have been known to run for even higher stakes. Poker is an awesome hobby that combines luck, skill, wit, psychology, stats, and gambling into an awesomely enjoyable social experience. If you're good at it, you can even make money! I love poker, and I want you to love it too. Who am I? I am an American recreational poker enthusiast. I typically play poker about 3 nights a week in home games and card rooms, and take a few trips a year to binge on poker at a variety of casinos. I host a weekly low stakes poker game and a monthly mid stakes poker game. I play at a variety of stakes at cash games with $20-500 buy-in and tournaments with $20-600 buy-ins. I also play some very low stakes poker online. I am a winning player, but not absurdly so, and I do not play for a living. However, we do have some pros on these forums that I welcome to contribute to this thread. Things to ask about Basic poker playing tips Poker legality Skill vs. luck in poker Hosting and playing in home games Things you should know before playing poker in a casino The state of online poker in the US Poker in movies vs. reality How to learn poker as a new player How to become a good player Tournament versus cash poker Becoming a professional player Links The SA Poker Games Thread - The title says online poker, but it's pretty much become the main poker discussion thread on the forums, now that Poker in the Rear is gone  . A lot of the info in the OP is outdated, but it's a great place to ask specific poker questions.The Twitch channel and Youtube Channel for goon poker pro JCarver (Jason Somerville). His videos are incredibly useful for learning to play poker at a higher level. My poker channel. Imaduck fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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Is online poker legal again in the US? I thought it was in sort of a grey area, and you basically had to play on foreign sites, and had to send/receive cash through websites that neither visa or MasterCard would authorize. Basically I'd love to play, but the idea of it being possibly illegal, and having to give out my checking information to companies I never heard of really turned me off of the idea.
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May 30, 2016 16:10
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I remember watching live a goon come runner up at the 2013 ME, that was really cool. Although it was a painful heads up purely because he just got dealt pretty much total garbage while his smug opponent just got insanely lucky over and over.
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May 30, 2016 18:10
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Initio posted:Is online poker legal again in the US? I thought it was in sort of a grey area, and you basically had to play on foreign sites, and had to send/receive cash through websites that neither visa or MasterCard would authorize. Online poker is regulated in Nevada and New Jersey, and we're probably going to see more states jump on board in the next year or so. If you're not in Nevada or NJ, your best bet for online poker is Bovada. It's not nearly as good as Poker Stars was in the glory days, but it always has games running at most stakes, and a few goons even make a living playing on there. There's also Carbon and Juicy Stakes, but they're less popular. Getting money in or out of Bovada usually isn't too bad; most banks and credit cards will allow the transaction. There's also bitcoin if you want to do it anonymously. That all being said, I would never keep a ton of money on there, as it is a foreign site and there's no guarantee that they won't just disappear. There is a growing fight for regulated online poker in the US. Hopefully it comes soon. Jeza posted:I remember watching live a goon come runner up at the 2013 ME, that was really cool. Although it was a painful heads up purely because he just got dealt pretty much total garbage while his smug opponent just got insanely lucky over and over.
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May 31, 2016 02:47
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When I was involved in online poker, over 10 years ago, there were people who would play at many tables at once. Like 8 or 12 or even more hands at the same time. Are people still doing this?
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May 31, 2016 06:01
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How many people have to suck at poker and lose money for one person to claim he can make a living wage on it? I mean I suck at poker. I've played some online and I just straight up lose money on it so I quit real fast. I still play with friends for the social bit but what does it take for someone to regularly log on to an online poker site and lose their wages on it? Affi fucked around with this message at 09:19 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 09:17
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Orange Sunshine posted:When I was involved in online poker, over 10 years ago, there were people who would play at many tables at once. Like 8 or 12 or even more hands at the same time. Are people still doing this? Also, if one were to sit down at a SNG or low-stakes ring game, how many of the five other players should we expect to be bots?
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Orange Sunshine posted:When I was involved in online poker, over 10 years ago, there were people who would play at many tables at once. Like 8 or 12 or even more hands at the same time. Are people still doing this? Some very talented players can even do 24 tables or more at a time. This requires playing millions of hands until your poker play is almost reflexive. They look ljke machines while they're playing. However, many of these players will slow down if they're playing higher stakes against more difficult opponents.
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Affi posted:How many people have to suck at poker and lose money for one person to claim he can make a living wage on it? Online poker is nice in that it let's you start at incredibly low stakes (e.g. tournaments for pennies), learn the game over time, and then move up and try higher stakes when you build a good bankroll. Initially you might be a loser at the higher stakes, but you can use your lower stakes winnings to buy you in as you adjust to harder games. That being said, you're probably not one of the big donors that drive the poker economy. At every stake, there are "whales," meaning people with more money than skill that just love to gamble. I once sat at a 1/2 table at Planet Holleywood where a gentleman had $3,000 in front of him and announced that it was his goal to lose all of it. He "straddled" (bet without seeing his cards) for $25 in every pot, and basically would try to just raise you all in at every opportunity if he had remotely good cards. In New Orleans, I played against a woman who went to the ATM four times in 45 minutes to withdraw another $800 to blow each time. Whales tend to donate to all players to the table, although maybe a little more to the good players, but they keep the bad players fed as well. It's hard to say what the ratio of contributions from small time players to big fish is, but they're definitely a healthy chunk of the economy.
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flakeloaf posted:Also, if one were to sit down at a SNG or low-stakes ring game, how many of the five other players should we expect to be bots? As far as I can tell, there aren't many bots. You may have heard of a group of scientists beating poker a little while back with a bot, but this was heads up limit Poker, which is a game no one plays. No limit hold 'em, especially with lots of players and a variety of stack sizes, is many, many times more complicated, and no one is close to solving it. I've read some things about bots that can maybe be profitable against bad low stakes players, but I've never heard of any that can beat even moderately competent No Limit Hold'em players. I've spotted one bot for sure on Juicy Stakes, but it just plays incredibly tight and overall is a losing player. I think it was just grinding promotion points or something. A good percentage of players will respond to chat at least some times, and legit sites try to weed out bots, so I really don't think you're going to be sitting at a table full of bots at any point. In any case, there are plenty of winning players out there, so if there are lots of bots on poker sites, apparently they're beatable.
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Imaduck posted:If you're not in Nevada or NJ, your best bet for online poker is Bovada. It's not nearly as good as Poker Stars was in the glory days, but it always has games running at most stakes, and a few goons even make a living playing on there. There's also Carbon and Juicy Stakes, but they're less popular. I have an account on Juicy Stakes, and I've found its player base severely underwhelming. I'll have to take a look at Bovada. Which games do they offer? I've thought about trying out five-card draw or Badugi.
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Jun 1, 2016 03:45
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Imaduck posted:Online poker never has been illegal in the US, except in Washington state. The issue is that banks are afraid to work with online poker sites because the laws are ill-defined. Most of the poker sites that were shut down were closed because they misrepresented what they were doing to banks, which is very illegal. The government has never gone after players on any poker site. Do you recommend a particular online poker service if you do live in Nevada? (Or NJ for that matter but I'm in Vegas myself so  )
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Cockmaster posted:I have an account on Juicy Stakes, and I've found its player base severely underwhelming. I'll have to take a look at Bovada. Which games do they offer? I've thought about trying out five-card draw or Badugi. .The other site I didn't mention is America's card room. I haven't played on it, but it's supposed to have a fairly big player base. I don't think it runs many mixed games though. Ciaphas posted:Do you recommend a particular online poker service if you do live in Nevada? (Or NJ for that matter but I'm in Vegas myself so In NJ, I can't fathom why you'd play on anything other than Pokerstars.
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I suck a lot at poker. I'm probably never going to play online or in a "real" game, but I play against my friends from time to time and just do terribly. When I've tried to learn the basics, it seems like guides are written under the assumption that your opponents will play "correctly" (folding when they don't have a hand, betting based on their table position, etc) but my friends are a little more YOLO than that. When playing with people who play every single hand and raise and fold seemingly randomly based on feeling, do the same strategies apply or is there a way I should be playing to take advantage of their recklessness?
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Jmcrofts posted:I suck a lot at poker. I'm probably never going to play online or in a "real" game, but I play against my friends from time to time and just do terribly. If there are four to five people seeing every flop one pair hands often don't win. This means hands like AK unsuited decrease in value and hands like 76s increase in value when you're talking hands to see a flop with (note that AK is still worth more than 76 here in aggregate but instead of it being like three or four times better like it is heads up it's almost equal). Tables like these are much easier to make money at than tables where players play more correctly. You will not win as many pots that you enter percentage wise in the long run in that environment but the pots where you do win are going to be very large multi-way affairs that more than make up for it. So expect swings and invest in hands that can kill the table when they hit. Bluff less. It is more important that you differentiate between wet and dry flops in multiway pots than in heads up situations. It is still important to notice these things heads up but not immediatly having a different feeling toward A  8 4 vs. JT8 in a four way pot is a big problem with your understanding of how the hand is going to play out when there are four other people in the pot looking at that flop.If just one or two of them see a flop with you the hands will play exactly like they do in the books. The above is an oversimplification but the answer in poker in how to play is always to maximize your expectation vs. their range -- it's your known hand vs. a weighted average that you adjust on each street. By "their range" you need to consider that "their" can be plural, there is usually only one winner to a pot so you sometimes need to consider how likely your hand is to win (or you are to bluff everyone else out) vs multiple foes. Don't forget that how you play will alter their range quite a bit. Also remember that to them they're trying to make money still, to play well, to have fun, whatever their motivation is. It's not random like you think it is now, it's a genuine (and fixable!) error to look at any poker game that way. raton fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Imaduck posted:
The traffic level is abysmally low on WSOP.com Imaduck, many of the lower stakes guys there still use Bovada just so they can have some games to look at. Also aren't you some kinda data scientist in real life now? I wanna PM you about that some day raton fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 18:46
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Orange Sunshine posted:When I was involved in online poker, over 10 years ago, there were people who would play at many tables at once. Like 8 or 12 or even more hands at the same time. Are people still doing this? Of course. At the higher limits players restrict their number of tables quite a bit but even like 50-100 PLO and up (if you can find those stakes these day any more) you aren't usually going to see someone single tabling. The lower limits are much harder to win at than they were in 2006 but until you get to mid stakes at least most winning players would have a better hourly making their default plays vs villain HUD on 10 tables than they would putting everything they can into like four tables. raton fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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What books do you recommend for a casual (1/2) casino player to improve? How much will playing online (in the US so potentially not real money games) help play in person?
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Jmcrofts posted:I suck a lot at poker. I'm probably never going to play online or in a "real" game, but I play against my friends from time to time and just do terribly. Betting big preflop also helps protect you from random hands like 49o that are really hard to play around when they randomly spike on a 44K board. Sheep-Goats advice is solid as well; in multiway flops, fold weaker holdings and bet bet bet when you make something big. Your opponents will win little pots by randomly making pairs and two pairs with 58, and you'll win much bigger ones when you hit sets, straights, and flushes and they can't let their weaker hands go. You'll come out ahead in the long run. At the end of the day, keep in mind that the basic strategies for poker always apply, because they're based on solid math. However, when your opponents are making mistakes, you can make even more money if you adjust from an ABC play style to exploit their mistakes. You should start with the strategies you read about in books, figure out where your opponents are making mistakes, and then think about how you can adjust your play style to take advantage of them. Sheep-Goats posted:The traffic level is abysmally low on WSOP.com Imaduck, many of the lower stakes guys there still use Bovada just so they can have some games to look at. quote:Also aren't you some kinda data scientist in real life now? I wanna PM you about that some day antiga posted:What books do you recommend for a casual (1/2) casino player to improve? I've read a few other books: The Poker Blueprint is a fine start for getting your feet wet and thinking through some hands. Daniel Negreanu's Power Hold'em Strategy gives some interesting insights into his "small ball" style, which a lot of modern poker play is based off of. Jonathan Little's books have good advice, but I found them a little hard to get through. Phil Gordon's Little Green Book is a bit dated, but it's a classic and a pretty easy read. Training videos on Youtube and private sites, and Twitch Streams are becoming the new standard's for poker training. I linked goon JCarver's stream in the OP because it's absolutely fantastic to watch, both for entertainment and learning. There are a number of big streamers to learn from as well. quote:How much will playing online (in the US so potentially not real money games) help play in person? Playing for low stakes - even at penny tables - is many times better. You can play way more hands online then you can live, and your mistakes will be much, much cheaper. Imaduck fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jmcrofts posted:I suck a lot at poker. I'm probably never going to play online or in a "real" game, but I play against my friends from time to time and just do terribly. Your opponents' bad play is good, if you want to make money. You want them playing incorrectly. Yes, many poker guides are written with the idea that your opponents are decent players, and the point is to try to figure out what their cards might be based on how they are playing. You can't do this if they completely suck and just play every hand and raise or fold or whatever seemingly at random. So you aren't going to be trying to put them on a hand, they don't even know what they have so you certainly can't figure it out. Instead, you mostly play your own cards. Got bad cards? Fold. Got good cards? Raise. Have a chance at a flush or a straight? Check and call if the pot odds allow it. You will mostly be folding or raising. This way, when you see the flop, you'll have QQ and they'll have J4, and the odds of you having the best hand will be better than everyone else's. When you completely miss the flop, fold. If you have a good hand after the flop, raise. The idea is that you won't lose much on your losing hands, since you'll be folding so much preflop and when you've missed the flop. On your winning hands you should win a lot, since you've raised all over the place. Meanwhile, your opponents will be pouring money onto the pot when they have no chance of winning, and every so often they get lucky and their 7-4 turns into a full house, but so what?
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If you have not played much poker the best book to read is Phil Gordon's Little Green Book. It keeps things as simple as they can be without leaving out anything critical. It's poker 101. Once you're out of 1/2 NLHE live games there will be lots of players who are not playing poker 101 any more but you have to start somewhere. If you have some experience at poker already and want a solid book to open the door into the modern poker world you can't do better than Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em by Metha and Flynn and one other guy that I always forget. This is the book that spread the concept of SPR and therefore introduced the modern mindset of choosing lines and bet sizing that shape foes toward your profitability, an idea central to Janda's book in the next paragraph. Poker 201. There are two more upper division bibles IMO. Tommy Angelo wrote a book called Elements of Poker that focuses on the non-betting aspects of poker -- not tilting, planning your study so it's effective, keeping your local poker environment healthy, etc. This stuff becomes very important to how well you do at poker once you have erased the typical major poker errors from your game (playing too many hands, limping too much preflop, playing without regard to position, ignoring flop texture, stuff like that) as the remaining errors can only represent fractional improvements whereas, say, not tilting once a month where you used to can maybe represent a whole bet per 100 hands. Or maybe driving away a bad reg from your local cardroom with abuse. The other one is Applications of No Limit Holdem by Janda. This book attempts to find and justify a game theory optimal version of no limit Hold'em -- if you read this and didn't immediately object that a GTO Hold'em strategy is going to have a lower long term EV than an exploitable strategy in low limit games then this book is not for you yet. Poker is about making money long term and this last book can actually lose you money if you don't understand when to apply its lessons and when not to -- Janda warns you as much at the outset but that warning needs to be restated in my recommendation of the book here. This is also one of the rare poker books written and directed toward the more mathematical / analytical player who in truth absolutely dominates the modern poker landscape, especially online, where all the highest level poker is played anyway. Note that all of these books primarily focus on cash games. If you are more interested in tournaments they are still useful but there are probably better primary texts to consider. The utility of video coaching sites on how modern poker players learn is also important to understand. Everyone reads books. Many of the better players also have a subscription to a site like Deuces Cracked or Cardrunners (or even on Twitch) which pay very good poker players to make instructional content. The best players also aggressively study their flaws and innovate on their own by examining data collected on their own play by software like Hold'em Manager or Pokertracker -- often talking these things over in the flesh with other trusted players. I personally don't think that any one of these three learning methods can compensate for not doing one of the others, however it's probably fair to say that beginners get the most out of books, intermediate players from videos, and advanced poker players from self examination and peer discussion. The foundational text for poker is The Theory of Poker by Caro, however everything valuable in it is much better illustrated and even expanded on in Angelo's Elements of Poker. raton fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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One thing I've wondered about regarding online poker (as someone who knows very little about poker in general): Is it possible to write a program where you input stuff like your hand and what other people are doing and the program tells you the optimal play? It seems like this should be possible absent the human/psychological factor involved in real world play, but I'm assuming it's not for some reason.
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Ytlaya posted:One thing I've wondered about regarding online poker (as someone who knows very little about poker in general): Is it possible to write a program where you input stuff like your hand and what other people are doing and the program tells you the optimal play? It seems like this should be possible absent the human/psychological factor involved in real world play, but I'm assuming it's not for some reason.
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Ytlaya posted:One thing I've wondered about regarding online poker (as someone who knows very little about poker in general): Is it possible to write a program where you input stuff like your hand and what other people are doing and the program tells you the optimal play? It seems like this should be possible absent the human/psychological factor involved in real world play, but I'm assuming it's not for some reason. There is a lot of software out there to help you with your game. Pro Poker Tools has some free, online hand simulators that can tell you how much equity your hand has against other hands (like the percentages you see on TV poker). If you have a good idea about the types of hands your opponent has, you can figure out your chance of winning the hand if it goes to showdown. There are also HUDs that help you keep statistics on your opponents, like how many hands they're playing and how often they continuation bet like Poker Tracker. Poker tracking software also lets you keep track of your own hands for later analysis, and has a few built-in tools to help you with that. But no, there's no "push a button, tell me what to do" software. Most poker sites have it written in their rules that those are illegal, even if they did exist. There's a reason people pay hundreds of dollars an hour for training and hand analysis.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5jwBo3zvCs&t=86s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4S-5NlxAQ Play four card it's better
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Imaduck posted:As we discussed above, No Limit Hold'em is not a solved game. What you're talking about would basically be a bot that does everything but the actual clicking for you. Like I mentioned, bots right now seem to be pretty lovely, so this probably wouldn't be helpful. Poker Tracker automatically hooks into e.g. WSOP's software and gives you the reports and this isn't cheating? Whaaaa? (edit) Random side note: wow the wsop software uses WISE installer, I haven't seen that in a fuckin' dog's age (edit again) oh I guess it is in fact illegal in Nevada. Question still applies for other areas though, jeez, just seems like a huge advantage to those in the know that such software exists. Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Ciaphas posted:Poker Tracker automatically hooks into e.g. WSOP's software and gives you the reports and this isn't cheating? Whaaaa? This is what it used to look like when I played a lot of NLHE. Note that this image is pretty old and I would change some of it up now.  Anyone midstakes or higher is using a HUD. It's impossible to be a top class player without one and the software that allows for the projection of a HUD is crucial for examining and improving your own game. Here's an annotated version:  And the text I wrote when I made that post forever ago explaining what the stats were and how they are useful (to an extent -- again lots of this may be slightly off these days) quote:First Line -- VPIP and PFR are statistically useful after 40 hands or so, AF and SD are postflop stats and need about 100 total hands before they speak accurately about a player. This isn't a barebones setup but it's not too in-depth either. It's almost entirely focused on preflop and flop play, I tried to play the turn and the river more by hand reading than stats at that time but the world of postflop stats is very well developed these days and I'm sure top players make a lot of decisions based on stats. There's an idea called "balancing your range" that becomes more and more important as you move up and leads naturally to a more statistically driven game. Also check out that vintage GBS 1.0 posting stylez!!!11 raton fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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). If you have like 4000 hands on someone at the micros and they lose at a rate of 20PTBB/100 that's a person you always want to seek out -- habitual losers are the best source of profit. On the other hand, if you see a guy on FullTilt with a little iron man chip and his BB/100 is at 6 you don't really want him on your tables -- it's going to be a suckout contest with no point with him. Anyway, 3PTBB/100 is about what people aspire to these days in profit. 5 is quite good. 10 or more means someone won't believe you have the results you do (unless you're at the micros where play is so horrible that 10 is very doable).
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When I used to play online on PartyPoker, 12 or 13 years ago, I played at 6 max tables with an average VPIP of 40+%. They weren't all that loose, but you could watch tables and just play at the ones which were. I'm guessing you don't see that any more, even at low stakes.
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Orange Sunshine posted:When I used to play online on PartyPoker, 12 or 13 years ago, I played at 6 max tables with an average VPIP of 40+%. They weren't all that loose, but you could watch tables and just play at the ones which were. I'm guessing you don't see that any more, even at low stakes. You do at low stakes and on PLO tables but it's not, like, normal like it once was. The main thing is that in the old days if someone had 40%VPIP they had it from every seat (except the BB where it was 110%). Now a portion of your 40% guys have 6% UTG and 70% on the button. This kind of positional differential in VPIP is in my mind the first statistical sign to show up that directly and reliably correlates to playing quality. I mean, 40% is still too high but if you only have a hundred hands against them and they have this kind of 6-70 spread it's pretty easy for a little variance to leave them at 40 for the few hours you're playing with them. raton fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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BTW Ciaphas this in no way doesn't mean you shouldn't play poker. On any given night if we played six hours at a table with seven other players you could absolutely crush me. You could have a lot of fun. It's social. There's always something to learn. And, to be honest, it's often cheaper than a night out drinking and eating and seeing a movie once you average out your wins and losses even if you're a pretty bad poker player. Most cities have a 5-cent 10-cent game going on in someone's house or dorm somewhere and the players there are about equal in skill to the 1/2 NLHE players in most casinos in the US. Poker is an extremely good game from a pure gamesmanship standpoint -- right up there with go or chess or bridge. You can continue to play it and be social no matter how old you are. It's great to know how to play it and to post about it &c. If you get tired of Hold'em you could learn Omaha or 2-7 triple draw and each new variant you learn will inform aspects of play of the ones you already know. This is because at its heart poker is really a pricing game, not a card game, and this element of setting the right price and finding incorrect prices is such a huge part of the human experience that poker touches almost everything in some small way. Also I am like many players in that I actually talk a much better poker game than I play. These esoteric seeming stats with percentage range differentiation don't mean very much if I misread the loving board once in a while or whatever. There's no reason to be intimidated by the game or the people playing it and I kinda think it's cool when I get a player playing that role at a table I'm at. raton fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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any of you guys playing WSOP this year? I'll be there in late june/early july.
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I just signed up for America's Cardroom, and I'm having a bit of trouble depositing. My credit card wouldn't go through (apparently it doesn't like international cash advances), and those prepaid debit cards they sell everywhere are US-only. Does anyone know where I can get a prepaid debit card I can use for this, or am I going to have to resort to Bitcoin? If so, what's the best way to just get some Bitcoin and immediately deposit it? I've also noticed that America's Cardroom regularly has these free tournaments for a $10 prize. Would these be of any value for practicing poker strategy?
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Does JCarver still post? I remember final tabling his Little Angels freeroll.
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Cockmaster posted:I've also noticed that America's Cardroom regularly has these free tournaments for a $10 prize. Would these be of any value for practicing poker strategy? Since they are so common, a lot of people play loose and just jam any good hands hoping to final table it. So no. Reading books/listening to commentary would be better.
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I sometimes play microstakes/small stakes NHLE for fun and I'm a winning player over several hundred thousand hands. I miss when online poker was super easy and most players online were loose/passive instead of huge nits. That said, I haven't really studied or followed poker for a few years. Will poker ever be popular enough amongst idiots again for people to be able to be profitable online without understanding poo poo like 3-betting with a polarized range and floating to the turn in position when up against a continuation bet? Or is it impossible to put a cap on the glut of poker knowledge that exists? What's your current BB/100 now compared to before Black Friday? What's your opinion on the effect that Let There Be Range had? antiga posted:What books do you recommend for a casual (1/2) casino player to improve? How much will playing online (in the US so potentially not real money games) help play in person? I am guessing that you're a typical casino player, which means you try to put people on single hands and don't know what c-betting is or why bluffing is good, so I guess read Let There Be Range. You'll be playing against significantly better people when playing something like 5NL online compared to 200NL live -- they will be tighter, more aggressive, and will probably have some understanding of position. It won't help during Friday night games when family pots are common and people are there to throw chips around and have a good time (provided you're just playing ABC poker then), but when the table is less wild and you're doing something other than waiting to flop the best hand and get all of your money in the middle as fast as possible, it will help a lot probably.
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I suppose one nice thing about online poker is that I can alt tab and stare at Cheat Sheets For Stupid People With Bad Memories all I need, like remembering that 'no, A9o is actually kind of not great' for example
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Ten years ago I started lurking in PITR, watching JCarver videos. For 7-8 years I was a poker pro until last January when I decided to move onto other things. It's been a long, strange journey..
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im gay posted:Does JCarver still post? I remember final tabling his Little Angels freeroll. No, but he streams often on Twitch. I asked him a while back if he still came here, but he said he hadn't read the forums in years, ever since PITR got shut down.
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Keg posted:Will poker ever be popular enough amongst idiots again for people to be able to be profitable online without understanding poo poo like 3-betting with a polarized range and floating to the turn in position when up against a continuation bet? Or is it impossible to put a cap on the glut of poker knowledge that exists? faarcyde posted:Ten years ago I started lurking in PITR, watching JCarver videos. For 7-8 years I was a poker pro until last January when I decided to move onto other things. It's been a long, strange journey..
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