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this thread is for some guests of ours from D&D to argue about an intellectual property (IP) dispute between oracle (java) and google, about whether APIs can be considered protected IP, or something idk hopefully they'll be here soon |
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any minute now i'll get the snacks ready and the nice napkins out
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May 30, 2016 17:26
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oh geez I'm gonna need some popcorn
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May 30, 2016 17:27
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Java you say? **puts on a pot of coffee for our guests** And Oracle, hmmm... I know! **fast-forwards the movie "300" to the oracle scene** https://i.imgur.com/QKTkerO.mp4 |
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May 30, 2016 17:31
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i linked them in the thread they were derailing which is the supreme court thiread a very interesting and informative thread that i recommend people read sometimes if they feel like it i guess i hope they come 
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May 30, 2016 17:33
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from what i understand oracle wrote headers for some common open-source code and google copied the headers exactly and now oracle says "hey you can't copy that directly!" and google said "but the code was open source  " but apparently there's some disagreement among our guests-to-be about what exactly can count as protected IP and what can't
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May 30, 2016 17:35
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They're debating about coming here. |
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May 30, 2016 17:37
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GODSPEED JOHN GLENN posted:They're debating about coming here.
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May 30, 2016 17:40
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I wish someone was out there to help explain why Oracle is wrong in this issue. Computers are hard and I could use some help. *sets final bernie sanders bumper sticker across spike filled pit in front of thread*
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May 30, 2016 17:43
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alnilam posted:from what i understand oracle wrote headers for some common open-source code and google copied the headers exactly and now oracle says "hey you can't copy that directly!" and google said "but the code was open source But um, what about statute of limitations? It's open source intellectual property, not murder *runs into the Mexican restaurant thread and orders a margarita* https://i.imgur.com/QKTkerO.mp4 |
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May 30, 2016 17:50
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*stares blankly at the thread and tries to think of something pertinent to say"
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May 30, 2016 18:02
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team debaters: oracle team discussers: google may the best side find closure |
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May 30, 2016 18:05
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oh i know
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May 30, 2016 18:07
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FluffieDuckie posted:oh i know lol |
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May 30, 2016 18:08
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It really brings the room together!
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May 30, 2016 18:11
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there. i stickied it. now they can find it easier
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May 30, 2016 18:12
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I'm really excited for our guests, you guys 
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May 30, 2016 18:21
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Googacle Oroogle |
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May 30, 2016 18:23
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FluffieDuckie posted:there. i stickied it. now they can find it easier *looks at watch, nervously* Duckie, how are the brownies coming along? They're going to be here any minute.
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May 30, 2016 18:25
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im gonna fight anyone from d&d who comes in here |
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May 30, 2016 18:27
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do we have enough coasters?? god, we barely have enough coasters normally even
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May 30, 2016 18:28
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May 30, 2016 18:29
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shinmai posted:i've been secretly using folded up cigarette packs as coasters ~sig~ |
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May 30, 2016 18:37
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*finally takes the plastic off the lampshades* Today's the big day! |
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May 30, 2016 18:42
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May 30, 2016 18:44
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GODSPEED JOHN GLENN posted:*finally takes the plastic off the lampshades* 
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May 30, 2016 18:46
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byob where the b stands for bring your own d&d |
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May 30, 2016 18:50
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okay ill start it off. I don't see how anyone who has any experience with computer programming can argue that re-implementing free to use api's the way google did to develop android is anything but fair use. To me, the whole trial seems pretty cut and dry and considering Oracle is in deep long-term trouble financially due to their core products losing significant market share, they are just changing their business model to a litigation based model instead of trying to compete in the new open source landscape. This whole debacle just further points out that: 1) we need significant software patent reform because it is a grey landscape and easily exploitable by lawyers (and developers). 2) we desperately need to update the test for what is "fair use". I invite any d&d person to argue against any of these points because I am genuinely interested in hearing counter-arguments because I acknowledge my own bias and would like to understand the topic more. smootches, Piso (byob d&d liason)
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May 30, 2016 18:53
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well they're not talking but there are 32 people browsing the forum so i know they're here hi guys 
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May 30, 2016 18:53
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ok my 5th level fighter swings his two handed sword at piso mojado
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May 30, 2016 18:54
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Piso Mojado posted:okay ill start it off. Finally someone says what we're all thinking
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May 30, 2016 18:55
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Luvcow posted:ok my 5th level fighter swings his two handed sword at piso mojado
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May 30, 2016 18:55
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Luvcow posted:ok my 5th level fighter swings his two handed sword at piso mojado i will sue you to oblivion luvcow
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May 30, 2016 18:56
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i don't know whether to refer to the game manual or the d&d rules of engagement to oversee this luvcow piso dispute
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May 30, 2016 18:59
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all I know is Google doesn't ask me every three days to update a piece of software that I use maybe once a year |
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May 30, 2016 18:59
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I agree though and I think IP law has a lot of issues given how specialized most fields have become
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May 30, 2016 18:59
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idc |
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May 30, 2016 19:00
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i can't seriously debate in a forum that uses comic sans |
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May 30, 2016 19:01
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Luvcow posted:ok my 5th level fighter swings his two handed sword at piso mojado What's your THAC0? Piso Mojado scores a critical hit! Triple word score damage! All 'Yobbers are +5 (Fluffie's Blessing) Your initiative D&D, you are at -2 to hit due to Piso's Opening Argument. https://i.imgur.com/QKTkerO.mp4 |
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nutranurse posted:i can't seriously debate in a forum that uses comic sans everything should be debated with comic sans because it helps remind people not to take poo poo so personal.
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