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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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It's getting dangerously close. That roadblock in QLD cannot be good for Labor though, I'm not sure why the resistance is happening there given how lacklustre the state opposition is.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Journalist: But what if the Commission though says we should cut penalty rates. Will you accept that decision?

Shorten: They aren’t going to.

Journalist: But what if it does?

Shorten: Well, sorry — what if alien life makes contact with Earth?

Shorten is so sassy these days I kinda like it.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ywCRTG7LbU
TOOT TOOT NEW ALP AD TO AIR DURING STATE OF ORIGIN

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Watch them all vote Liberal cause Mommy and Daddy told them about the Golden Age of John Howard.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Razza my son
You is a voter now
You must choose between
Labor Party promising to stop 100k degrees
or Liberal Party promising to raise the GST and give corporations a tax cut
*picks Liberal*

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Abbott's an utter dullard and a husk of a human being whose entire career was based on the false premise that assuming positions of power and influence would make him a powerful, influential person through pure osmosis (it didn't). He has no real talents and can barely offer opinions on things he purported to care passionately about and I'm relieved politics has already moved on without him. Dude's no good.

HAHA

No, media out today is saying that Turnbull is considering giving Abbott front bench if he comes out to campaign in NSW for him.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Apparently the LNP are extremely worried about NSW because Baird is starting to blow up for them.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Here's some ABC dickhead claiming it will help them further to what the media has already said today:

Malcolm Turnbull must embrace Tony Abbott and draw him into the marginal seats campaign if he wants to energise the party faithful and secure crucial primary votes, writes Terry Barnes.

As we near the half-way mark of this protracted, uninspired, turgid, scrappy campaign, opinion polls are stubbornly remaining stuck around a 50 per cent split of the two-party preferred vote between the Coalition and Labor.

The most recent, a ReachTel poll on the weekend, put Labor in front 52-48 and the Essential Research poll out yesterday had the Coalition in front 51-49.

In a campaign with already more collywobbles than Collingwood this season - Julie Bishop yesterday joining the ranks of candidates who couldn't answer a question about their party's policy - this election is not over by any means. Both Turnbull and Shorten still have everything to play for.

But Turnbull has most to lose. Indeed, it was reported yesterday that Liberal strategists who, unsurprisingly, spoke on condition of anonymity, predicted to Fairfax Media that up to 12 Coalition seats will fall on July 2, while "bullish" Labor strategists identified a further eight seats that could be in play: a total of 20 seats that would be just enough to put Labor on the cusp of majority government.

Of course, campaign operatives on both sides are playing mind games via the media, but that the Coalition is bracing itself for significant seat losses is clear enough. A look at Turnbull's campaign schedule, let alone those of senior ministers, has him swinging through seat after Coalition seat - this week, he visited the outer Sydney seat of Lindsay for the second time since the election was called - while Shorten is visiting strings of Coalition seats too.

The Coalition therefore is running a defensive campaign, even if its economic and policy credentials are more solid than Labor's. Despite defending fewer seats on margins of 4 per cent or less than Labor, the pressures of incumbency, a lacklustre campaign, disappointment in Turnbull and local factors - such as the unpopularity of the Barnett Government in Western Australia and the Nick Xenophon surge in South Australia - make things on the ground tricky for the PM and the Coalition compared to their nothing-to-lose opponents.

In the Government's favour, however, is many of the members defending those marginals are dedicated and well-liked local MPs, and holding against national trends. For instance, Deakin in Melbourne, represented since 2013 by Liberal MP Michael Sukkar, is rarely mentioned as a possible Labor gain despite its very thin margin: Sukkar's tireless efforts since his election appear set to pay electoral dividends.

Indeed, neither side is putting much faith in headline numbers in national public polls. Each sees it as a seat-by-seat duel, the Coalition with heads in front at this stage of the campaign.

With seat outcomes so tight, however, the Coalition can't afford complacency. It needs to secure enough votes to get a sufficient number of its MPs over the line.

Some, like Victorian Liberal president Michael Kroger, think the key is winning "open tickets" from the Greens in vulnerable Coalition seats, in return for preferencing the Greens in inner-city Labor seats like the hapless David Feeney's Batman in Melbourne and Anthony "Albo" Albanese's Grayndler in Sydney.

But instead of pursuing the Left, it is far better for Liberal strategists to secure their base. They need disaffected and disgruntled Liberal supporters to vote for them rather than parking Lower House votes with other right-of-centre parties like the Liberal Democrats, and even fringe dwellers like One Nation and the Australian Liberty Alliance.

In a tight contest, even one or two hundred primary votes in a seat, or less, can make the difference in surviving a nail-biting preference count. Vote leakage to other Right parties doesn't guarantee these votes return to the Liberals via preferences: so every primary vote counts.

That's why Turnbull must ensure the Liberal base vote is maximised by regathering lost sheep. He needs to do all he can to keep thousands of Liberal voters disillusioned with him, and still angry and hurt at the deposing of Tony Abbott last September, in the Government's tent.

In other words, Turnbull must court, and not dismiss, those angry Abbott-loyalist Liberals disparagingly labelled by Daily Telegraph columnist Miranda Devine as "delusional conservatives", or Del Cons.

Some close to Abbott see the Del Con label as an insult. Social media makes clear, however, that most Del Cons see it as a badge of honour. Winning them back won't be easy for Turnbull, even though he hasn't so far strayed from the Abbott policy playbook.

Unless he and the Coalition lift their campaign game dramatically, Turnbull must be prepared to do what he, and those who prefer flirting with the Greens to reaching out to their disaffected base, will find difficult to accept. He must embrace Abbott, draw him into the marginal seats campaign, and get Abbott's superior campaigning skills into the thick of the fray rather than keeping him largely under wraps.

Abbott has shown, through his circumspect comments and writings in recent months, that he is moving on from last September. He shares Turnbull's belief that defeating Shorten is crucial for Australia's future and greater than the rivalry and history between them. And he is the only one who can appeal successfully to disenfranchised Del Cons and wavering conservatives.

If bringing Abbott in from the cold is Turnbull's "release the Kraken" moment to energise his base and regain crucial primary votes to ensure a Coalition win on July 2, he can't waste time. He must decide now.

But hey, whose the author?

Terry Barnes is a policy consultant, was a senior ministerial adviser to Tony Abbott and writes weekly for The Drum.

Interesting changes going on at the ABC, who will they employ next?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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open24hours posted:

Do Drum columnists get paid?

I believe they do.

Even friendlyjordies writes for the drum now

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I don't understand all this talk of a Green Liberal preference deal. To the best of my knowledge there isn't one and it just seems like a way of attacking the Greens brand by stealth?

It's all over the media and starting to trickle into ALP ads but I seem to recall DiNatalie ruling this out multiple times.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Just like a budget surplus. If they say greens preference deal enough times it comes true!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The ALA is still here though!

A NEW political party standing in the Brisbane-based federal seats of Griffith and Forde is proposing a ban on migrants from Islamic countries entering Australia for 10 years.

The Australian Liberty Alliance wants to put a blanket ban on migration from the Organisation of Islamic Countries, with an exception for persecuted non-Muslim minorities.

Islamic Council of Queensland spokesman Ali Kadri said the ALA posed a threat to the social fabric of the community.

“They are definitely (a threat),” Mr Kadri said. “It is dangerous and divisive, it’s not just about Muslims.”

The self-proclaimed “pro-freedom, pro-Australian, family party” has rejected its right-wing label.

ALA candidate for Forde Shaun Spain said “good natured” Muslims were becoming enticed by extremist views.

“There are peaceful Muslims out there and they are here in Australia, but the biggest problem I see is that they get trapped by hate preachers and get caught up in the wrong crowds,” Mr Spain said.

“I am not running because I hate Islam or hate Muslims, I am doing it because I don’t want radical Islam.”

Mr Spain said he was standing for the federal seat of Forde because it was his local electorate.

Federal Labor MP for Griffith Terri Butler said she did not want to discuss or legitimise ALA’s policies.

“I don’t have much time for radical fringe groups,” she said.

Federal LNP MP for Forde Bert van Manen also declined to comment on the party’s emergence.

ALA candidate for Griffith Matt Darragh denied the party’s policies were racist.

Mr Darragh said he wanted to represent this local seat of Griffith and wanted to make a positive difference in his community.

“Australia’s filters at the borders are not refined enough,” he said.

Griffith University political expert Paul Williams said the ALA was a “full-right, arch-conservative party”.

He said the party’s policies were similar to those of the White Australia policy era.

“We are living in electorally volatile times. People feel mainstream parties have let them down and there’s a big gap between public expectation and wish fulfilment,” Dr Williams said.

He said the ALA had a “remote, outside chance” of winning a Senate seat, but was “basically up against (Pauline) Hanson for the same spot”.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Good. I know a lot of people who do community radio in their spare time for fun.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Someday I will be in the senate and goons will call me king.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Get investigated by the afp for shitposting

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The new senate is going to gently caress over whoever wins that winning this election seems like a trick.

The greens have the right idea, never win government. The only winning move is to never form government. :downswords:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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You know the ALP are Liberal lite when they also claim the ABC is biased.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Isn't Switzerland kinda right wing?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Isn't this election lose-lose for Malcolm Turnbull? His strong new economy agenda is questionable at best and more than likely not going to be yes-manned through the senate unless Xenophon turns out to be a parrot. It just leaves the best case scenario for the liberals being 3 more years of inactivity and endless negotiations.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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If Bill Shorten wins, remove negative gearing, bubble pops, Libs use this as an excuse to argue for the return of negative gearing, Libs win government, implement an even shittier version of negative gears, bubble restarts?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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NEW ALP TV AD TOOT TOOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gPgFxG388

And now for the comments section...

"100 Malaysian Custom officers involved in shutting down the INTERPOL computer system to transit criminals through customs. Been going on for 6 years. The only way we will save Australia is to bring back the White Australia policy. (except for some asian hookers for personal use) Baaahhhh."

Oh...:gonk:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The freshest of the batch is a poll crediting Labor with a 51-49 lead in the northern Tasmanian seat of Bass. This suggests a 5% swing against Liberal member Andrew Nikolic, who gained it with a 10.8% swing in 2013. The poll was conducted on Tuesday for GetUp! from a sample of 824.

The Advertiser reports troubling numbers for the Liberals from South Australia in further polling conducted for GetUp! Christopher Pyne is credited with 41% of the primary vote in his seat of Sturt, compared with 21% for Nick Xenophon Team candidate Matthew Wright and 20% for Labor’s Matt Loader and 8% for the Greens. In Mayo, Liberal member Jamie Briggs is at 40%, against 23.5% for Rebekha Sharkie of the Nick Xenophon Team, 18% for Labor and 10% for the Greens. Either seat would be under threat from NXT on those numbers, provided their candidates were able to get ahead of Labor. The scale of the threat would also depend on whether the remainders include an undecided component, as is usually the case in ReachTEL’s electorate polling. If so, distributing the undecided would push the Liberal primary vote up high enough that they would most likely make it over the line, although only just. The Sturt poll was conducted on May 22 from a sample of 762, and the Mayo poll was on May 16 from a sample of 681.

The West Australian reports a poll of the Perth seat of Cowan credited Labor’s Anne Aly with a 51-49 lead over Liberal member Luke Simkins, whose 7.5% margin has been pared back to 4.0% in the redistribution. The implied swing of 5% is actually at the low end of the Labor’s recent form in polling from Western Australia. However, this poll is showing its age a little, having been conducted on May 10 for the United Voice union from a sample of 731. The West’s report also relates that the Liberals’ internal pollsters, Crosby-Textor, have recorded a 6% swing to Labor in the new seat of Burt, which has a notional Liberal margin of 4.9%.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Dear God,

Please make Pyne lose.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Is it actually possible for NXT to get all of SA's seats just because?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Tomberforce posted:

Do the greens normally attract so many targetted attacks during election cycles? Seems like they must be doing something right....

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The Federal Court has ordered Woolworths to pay penalties totalling $9 million for its involvement in a laundry detergent cartel.

Woolworths admitted to effectively colluding with laundry detergent giants Colgate-Palmolive, PZ Cussons and Unilever over how they would switch from standard concentrates to ultra concentrates.

The companies all agreed that they would stop supplying standard concentrates to Woolworths in early 2009 and supply only ultra concentrates.

The more concentrated detergents are cheaper to produce, store and ship and therefore should have been cheaper per wash than the standard detergents, but the competition watchdog alleged that the agreement meant those savings were not passed on to customers.

The ACCC's chairman Rod Sims said Woolworths benefited from the arrangement through a range of logistical cost savings.

"We certainly reached agreement that they achieved a range of logistical benefits in terms of transport, storage, shelf space and the like," he told the ABC's PM program.

Mr Sims also said the scheme would not have been possible without the supermarket's involvement which was the reason the ACCC was so keen to see it penalised.

Cartel may have cost consumers $150m in lost savings

Colgate has already been ordered to pay $18 million in penalties for admitted breaches of the Competition and Consumer Act (CCA) in relation to the cartel conduct.

Unilever applied for immunity protection in the matter as an informer and action is still underway in the Federal Court against Cussons.

While the companies have faced some of the stiffest penalties handed down for anti-competitive conduct, Mr Sims acknowledged that the four firms may still have come out ahead.

"There certainly was discussion among the parties at an early stage of around about a $150 million benefit, but you never know how much prices would've gone down without this activity," he told PM.

However Mr Sims defended the agreed outcome.

"In this case the penalties are appropriate, we wouldn't have settled for them otherwise," he added.

Mr Sims also admitted the ACCC did not know if prices had fallen as a result of the court case.

"I hope they have, the honest answer is I haven't been following them recently, I hope they have come down," he said.

Woolworths blames rogue buyer

For its part, Woolworths has blamed the conduct of a former staff member for its breach of the CCA.

"Woolworths acknowledges that the behaviour of one of its former buyers was not consistent with the high standards of competition law compliance we seek to achieve," the company said in a statement.

"The proceedings have been settled with Woolworths making limited admissions in relation to one of the claims made by the ACCC."

However, Mr Sims said the blame goes far beyond individuals at the companies involved.

"We believe, with senior staff members, other people can observe what they're doing and we believe ultimately companies have got to have compliance systems in place to prevent that sort of thing happening," he responded.

Woolworths said it has updated its compliance program and training to help avoid such situations in the future.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Reachtel - 50-50
Fairfax-Ipsos - 51-49 to the ALP

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Go Bill
Latch on to this article with your dear life and never let go!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR_dQnm9QlI

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Malcolm Turnbull is facing a 10 per cent swing against him in his Sydney seat of Wentworth, according to polling that shows more than half his local electors think less of him since he became Prime Minister.

The ReachTel poll conducted across the blue-ribbon Liberal electorate last week suggests Mr Turnbull's first preference vote will be slashed from 63 per cent to 53 per cent.

His lead in the two-party preferred stakes will be similarly reduced from the 2013 result of 68-32 to 58-42.

While he will still be comfortably re-elected with such a result, it will be the first swing against him since he first won the seat in 2004. He increased his margin at the 2007, 2010 and 2013 elections.

The polling underscores just how much his popularity has waned since he took over the nation's top job last year.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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So the PaTH website turns out to be a LNP website that pretends to be a website for PaTH but really just sends your details to campaign HQ so they can ask you for donations.

Privacy campaigners have accused the Liberal Party of an "appalling" sleight of hand for using what looks deceptively like an official government website to harvest people's personal information.

The Australian Privacy Foundation's David Vaile says the website, which spruiks the government's $840 million PaTH to Jobs internship program, appears to be deliberately misleading.

It asks employers and jobseekers to register their interest in the program by submitting their personal details. But it's only in the well-hidden fine print that it makes it clear it is a party website rather than a government one.

The Coalition scheme is designed to encourage under-25s into jobs by giving them a $200-a-fortnight top-up over and above the dole to work 25 hours a week. It is a central plank of the government's jobs and growth agenda but it has drawn heavy fire from the unions, which have described it as a $4-an-hour "worker exploitation scheme".

Mr Vaile says the website may be a political trawling exercise, a "mean and tricky ruse" to get information for political purposes.

​"They have pushed the concept of informed consent to the limit by not revealing anywhere that it is not actually the Turnbull government a reader is dealing with but a party organisation," he said.

"It is an appalling approach to abusing the trust of gullible internet users and getting their personal information by sleight of hand. It gives little confidence that they can be trusted to look after personal information, security, privacy and confidentiality concerns."

Mr Vaile says the information collected can be stolen by a "motivated intruder", putting people at risk of identity theft.

The ACTU says the website is another strike against the program.

"Not only does the government want to exploit young workers, now we're seeing an attack on their privacy as well, with their details being funnelled into a Liberal Party campaign database," ACTU secretary Dave Oliver said. "This Liberal Party website is ill-thought through, cobbled together and of dubious legitimacy, just like the PaTH scheme itself."

The Coalition has refused to answer questions about the website, simply referring Fairfax Media to the website's privacy policy, which reads: "Information is being collected by the Liberal Party because it is caretaker and no government agency can do so."

Once the election caretaker period is over, the party will provide the information to the Department of Employment, the policy says.

"The information collected will not be used for any other purpose," it says.

But Mr Vaile, who is also executive director of the Cyberspace Law and Policy Centre at the University of NSW, says this privacy policy is "deeply deficient".

"I've never seen anything like that. It makes the very unconvincing claim that somehow the caretaker conventions both require and permit them to collect this information."

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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When is Newspoll due

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Newspoll 50-50

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I hope PAX goes nation wide and eats supanovas cake

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Bill Shorten set go but PM Malcolm Turnbull a no-show

BILL Shorten could be forced to debate himself at Wednesday’s Brisbane people’s forum, with Malcolm Turnbull refusing to commit to showing up.

The Prime Minister has not yet accepted an invitation to address voters in the marginal electorate of Brisbane — prompting event host David Speers to declare: “If the PM doesn’t want to another debate this campaign, then well fair enough, he should just say so.”

The Sky News/Courier-Mail People’s Forum will see 100 undecided voters to ask questions at the Bronco’s League’s Club at Red Hill from 7pm Tuesday night.

But on Monday Mr Turnbull said he would prefer to answer questions of voters via Facebook rather than in person.

“We’re looking at some alternatives,” Mr Turnbull said.

“What I’m hoping to do is to have a debate that’s a bit different, that involves Facebook and that involves a larger audience and that is more engaging.

“So I can assure you I enjoy debating and I want to reach as many people as I possibly can in the debate because we have a great story to tell ... and I want to have an opportunity to explain it and take questions on it from as many people as possible.”

Mr Shorten said he was happy to debate Mr Turnbull “anytime, anywhere” if he wanted to take the fight to Facebook in the future.

“But if he doesn’t front up on Wednesday, he is turning his back on Queenslanders, plain and simple,” he said.

“Queensland deserves its own People’s Forum: Unscripted questions on what matters to Queensland.

“I can’t understand what he is scared of.”

Facebook is understood to have held no formal talks about hosting a debate.

Rather, it proposes having the leaders separately answering questions on the social media platform.

Sky News editor and debate moderator David Speers last night said there was nothing wrong with that setup, but it was not a debate.

“A debate usually involves two people actually debating each other,” Speers said.

“If the Prime Minister doesn’t want to do another debate in this campaign, he should say so.

“If he wants to do more debates, well he should.”

Speers said tomorrow’s debate would go ahead either way.

“The invitation is still open for the Prime Minister to join us,” he said.

“We certainly hope he will.”

And Mr Turnbull has still left open the option of turning up as both major parties fight over a handful of key swing seats across Queensland that will be vital in winning government.

One is the seat of Brisbane, where MP Teresa Gambaro is retiring and former National Retail Association boss Trevor Evans faces tough competition to hold the seat for the LNP in the face of strong competition from former army major and Labor candidate Pat O’Neil.

So far the pair have debated in western Sydney in what attendees said was a win for the Labor leader and at the National Press Club, where no official winner was declared.

Queensland Labor MPs have also challenged Mr Turnbull over his apparent reluctance to participate in the debate.

Turdball Boycotting People's Forum.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Bloody swamps, they ruined swampland!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Oh God. The TV screens at fortitude Valley station stopped playing ads and now play Sky News.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Murdoch excels at creating your personal hell.

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