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V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
This was good

quote:

Walker

I am not suggesting that the executive tell the police what to do

Multiple reporters

But you are. You are.

Walker

I am suggesting that the government explain to the people of Queensland how this process has ended up, as it has to today

Reporter

Which is the government telling the police what to do. That is literally is what you are telling them to do.

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Sep 1, 2004

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Serrath posted:

Abbott would draw a lot of parallels with any straight line and religious representative or senator of the Republican Party. More religious than John McCain but less religious than Huckabee. I think Bush II would be an apt comparison but I also lack imagination. He's not as belligerent and actively subversive as Ted Cruz but he's also more aggressive than Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush so I'm struggling to compare him to any currently running Republican.

E: I see the word filter is still in effect...

I think Cruz is a good analogue. Lies as easily as breathing. Made his name in politics by just saying No! to the opposition (and to any weak-kneed politicians on his own side). Is actually quite smart but plays the demagogue, is completely self-centered and narcissistic and simply cannot fathom how anyone could be better as leader than him. Plays up the religious angle when it suits but would drop it in a heartbeat if it would get him more votes, - could go on and on.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

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Lizard Combatant posted:

poo poo! Gimme a sec...

e:



better?

kissing gesture with fingers. That's some good poo poo.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

open24hours posted:

This is right. No one should be in prison unless they pose a risk to public safety, and this is doubly important when the state can't even ensure the safety of prisoners.

Prison is a deterrent. The only penalty inside traders will face with a fine is a few years of bankruptcy.

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Sep 1, 2004

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Recoome posted:

Actually sorry this isn't necessarily correct. If prison was a deterrent, then no-one would really be committing crimes.

Also the current judicial system is pretty badly set up if it's supposed to deter people from committing crimes.

Prison does deter many, many people from committing crimes. All because it is not a perfect deterrent doesn't invalidate it.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Recoome posted:

A strong argument always leads with a "no, you" statement.

Eh look it's more to do with how humans behave. In a perfect/crazy world, if you did something wrong, you'd be punished/whatever right then and there, because then you would ~associate~ that action with the punishment. The threat of that punishment would therefore be a deterrent. I would argue that it's probably something like injunctive norms which deter people from just committing a shitload of crime. People have an expectation on how they shoud behave, as well as how others should behave. The injunctive norms are free to vary across society, and explains why people still perform actions which are considered illegal (because the individual feels like they can behave in that manner).

I'd argue that due to the lengthy delay between action -> gaol, going to gaol is actually a ~consequence~ of your action. Punishment, by definition, is supposed to reduce the frequency of some behaviour and really gaol isn't an effective punishment/deterrent. I'm personally fine with gaol being a consequence for the action, but I think any punishment in this system right now is the immediate loss of freedoms/restrictions placed on the individual immediately after they are taken into custody. In many cases, this can be after "getting caught", so really this person may just aim to not get caught in the future.

This is also why rehabilitation/education/support in prison is a cool and good thing because we want to break this cycle of disenfranchisement. That's why it's poo poo when we cut support programs inside prisons because we are being "too soft on crime".

I think this is the 3rd or 4th time the deterrence/rehabilitation argument has washed through the auspol thread.

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Sep 1, 2004

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TheIllestVillain posted:

going on my steam wish list

i hope its good cause i couldn't get into Hearts of Iron 3 since it was so ridiculously complicated

game is good - much easier to get into than HOI3.


:lol:

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Sep 1, 2004

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ReachTEL posted:

GhostWhoVotes @GhostWhoVotes
#ReachTEL Poll Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 50 (0) ALP 50 (0) #ausvotes

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Vote 1 MEOW-MEOW, Meow-Ludo Disco Gamma for Grayndler

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

quote:

GhostWhoVotes
@GhostWhoVotes
#Ipsos Poll Federal Primary Votes: L/NP 39 (-3) ALP 33 (-3) #ausvotes

Burn it. Burn it all.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Great long form piece in the Oz on the 'Mediscare' campaign and how screwed the LNP campaign was

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fed...cd6d15f447e692f [$]

quote:

With the temperature outside fit to freeze, Malcolm Turnbull ­arrived at the Coalition’s campaign headquarters in Canberra at close to 1.45pm last Thursday. He had wrapped up a successful speech to the National Press Club and now he would thank excited campaign staff for their hard work.

They would win “with the luck of the gods”, he told the crowd as it gathered in a bland room adorned with a few posters on the wall. It was now up to the judgment of the Australian people. He added optimistically: “I think Labor’s lies have started to wear thin.”

Turnbull did not reveal the bad news he had just received. In a ­private office, party director Tony Nutt had walked the Prime Minister through the numbers. It was not a happy picture. The ­Coalition’s recovery in the polls had stalled. The advertising blackout had begun. They could not counter Labor’s ground campaign with mass union volunteers. And with seats up-ended by the exodus to independents, the outcome was unclear.

An hour later, on a RAAF jet back to Sydney, Turnbull was in a pensive mood. Seated in the forward cabin with its polished timber fittings and blue-leather seats he admitted to being tired. “I remain apprehensive,” he said. “It’s still pretty close. A whole bunch of seats are pretty close. What the net is, we don’t know.” Labor’s Medicare scare campaign was on his mind. “The Medicare lie is probably the worst … that’s ­obviously cost us some votes. It’s amazing how they got away with it.”

Three weeks earlier, Erinn Swan, head of digital at ALP campaign headquarters in Melbourne and the daughter of former treasurer Wayne Swan, had come up with a good idea. She could hardly have known that it would disrupt the Turnbull campaign’s economic mantra: “We have a plan.” Nor that it would help derail Turnbull’s smooth path to power. Or that it would expose weaknesses in the Liberal headquarters and suck almost two weeks out of the Prime Minister’s campaign.

In the end Swan’s good idea would become Labor’s campaign motif — right up to judgment day. Swan’s digital team had wanted to create a digital ad warning that the Coalition would wreck Medicare — after all, it was already looking to outsource some backroom functions. Protecting Medicare had already been on the grid of ­issues Labor deployed to attack Turnbull. But if it could get former prime minister Bob Hawke to front the ad, well, it just might fly.

Wright liked it. The digital team managed a list of about 300,000 email addresses, plus ­social media and digital advertising. Through this large email network, Labor now received small online donations that totalled twice the size of the largest single contribution from any trade union. A digital Medicare ad with Hawkie was a good idea. Wright phoned Hawke. He agreed — happy to be involved with the campaign — and a team flew to Sydney to film in the ALP’s Sydney office. They made a 90-second spot to use online and with supporters.

The spot went so well online that Wright had it cut to a 30-­second ad for TV and took it out to focus groups. Again, it worked so well that Wright flew to Sydney to see Hawke to discuss running it as an ad on TV. He wanted to walk through the potential aggression the old campaigner might strike if the ­Coalition decided to go after him — with all its weapons. Could Hawke cope with that? Hawke waved it through.

The Medicare campaign was based on a projection from a premise: that because the government was outsourcing a small corner of Medicare, the whole lot could go. So far as Wright was concerned, this tapped a core weakness of the Coalition: that it did not support Medicare, or that it supported it only grudgingly while looking for ways around it. This was the fear to leverage.

The Hawke ad was launched on YouTube on June 11 and on TV on June 12. It ran as free as a rabbit in a field for nearly a week. “You don’t set up a Medicare privatisation taskforce unless you aim to privatise Medicare,” Hawke told viewers.

By June 16, fast-rising anxiety had gripped Victorian Liberal officials. Voters in marginal seats were responding to Hawke — and older voters, who pinned health as their top item, were raising concerns about Turnbull’s plans to privatise Medicare. Told it was not true, these voters still thought it sounded right. Turnbull had no such plans. But it was too late. The Hawke ad had bitten deeply.

The party’s activist Victorian president Michael Kroger and his state deputy, Simon Frost, decided to push Coalition campaign headquarters to act — they needed a ­rebuttal and it had to be fast. Some of the state directors were already concerned about whether the campaign was too lifeless, with its clinical jobs and growth message. Labor’s Medicare ad was biting in Victoria.

Frost raised it at the 7.30 morning conference between state ­directors and Nutt, and pressed for action. The Victorians thought the feds should have been on to it instantly to crush Labor’s credibility before the Medicare story developed a life of its own. Kroger was understood to have raised his concerns with Foreign Minister Julie Bishop. She too, would take it up on a CHQ conference call.

The Coalition had not anticipated Shorten would turn Medicare into a giant privatisation scare. It was unprepared. Suddenly the challenge was to rebut it while not spending too much time on it — thus ending up fighting on Labor’s turf. It had to get back on to safe territory with its own message about the plan.

On Saturday, June 18, and clearly suffering from a cold or flu, Turnbull struck back, vehemently declaring the Medicare scare to be an outrageous, bizarre lie. But he revealed how far Labor had ­already bitten, announcing that he would dump plans to outsource Medicare’s back-office operations. Medicare would “never, ever” be privatised, he said.

Turnbull looked and sounded authentic, angry and honest, repudiating the Labor attack. But it was too late. He would be forced to fight the mirage of Medicare privatisation until the final breath of the campaign.

When Wright’s headquarters team saw Turnbull abandoning the taskforce they were stoked. They were in a fight and they had taken a major win. It would be a turning point in Labor’s campaign.

The next day, Sunday, June 19, Shorten went after Turnbull again over Medicare at the Labor campaign launch. No mind that the Coalition had no plans to privatise Medicare, the story was now ­embedded with the public and Shorten intended to water it. Turnbull could not be trusted, he told the party faithful and TV viewers. There was already a taskforce and other inquiries into Medicare. “Piece by piece, brick by brick, the Libs want to tear it down,” Shorten roared.

One senior member of Turnbull’s team said later: “It wasn’t until someone got the AMA to come out, that we got any traction.” New AMA president ­Michael Gannon rejected the idea that the government had plans. But his impact as a supportive third party did not last long. Labor, after all, had the health unions.

On June 20, Wright fired up his “never, ever” ad with a quick cascade of grabs of former prime minister John Howard declaring he would not introduce a GST “never, ever, it’s dead”, followed by Tony Abbott promising “no cuts to education, no cuts to health” and concluding with Turnbull: “Medicare will never, ever be privatised.” It was honey for an adman. The ­voiceover rolled: “Now he wants to privatise Medicare.” The finale was simple: The Liberals say one thing and do another.

It rammed home the message succinctly.

On June 21, the ABC’s 7.30 ran the story, following the row ­between the parties. Presenter Leigh Sales told viewers that the Coalition had no plans to privatise Medicare, and yet Labor said it could not be believed — given past form on breaking promises. Two nights later Shorten appeared on the program when Sales pressed him to put his hand on his heart “and say the Coalition has a policy to privatise Medicare”.

Shorten ­responded that the election would determine the ­future of Medicare. And with that, Labor cemented its pitch.

Through to election day, “save Medicare” rallies would spring up at short notice with union volunteers, and Shorten’s “Bill Bus” would roll into marginal seats to “save Medicare”.

The pressures caused by the Medicare scare opened up a number of other fissures in the ­Coalition campaign, in particular concern over finances.

Money had become a sore point. The confusing manoeuvres between Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison on economic policy in the months leading up to the election had disappointed and ­angered donors in the business community.

Many had been aghast at the on-off nature of debates, such as raising the goods and services tax and the overnight elevation and equally swift dumping of Turnbull’s proposal to overhaul federal-state taxes.

Turnbull had described this as the most fundamental reform to the Constitution in generations. It was gone in two days.

There had been evident strains between the Prime Minister and the Treasurer. There was speculation over Morrison’s future prime ministerial pretensions and ambitions, notwithstanding he was still attempting to come to grips with his Treasury portfolio. Some big donors had sat on their hands after this. Many disapproved of business tax cuts aimed eventually for the pockets of offshore conglomerates. And once the budget had cracked down on superannuation concessions, the list of aggrieved Coalition supporters only grew longer.

Money was still raised from some big donors but generational change in the wealthiest families had reduced this buffer. The ­younger generation was not so keen to give.

The party had a new federal treasurer, an honorary position, in Andrew Burnes, a travel industry businessman. His connections with the deep pockets of industry could never rival some of his predecessors, particularly given the deep disenchantment with politics, although party insiders felt he had made an excellent start. But they would need more than a good start.

In January, Turnbull contacted Ron Walker, the party’s greatest fundraiser, who had retired several years ago after a commitment of 15 years as treasurer. They met at the end of that month at Treasury Place in Melbourne.

Turnbull wanted everything possible in the saddlebags for the election and he asked Walker to open his legendary contact book to help Burnes where possible.

On March 7, Walker hosted a private lunch for Turnbull at the Athenaeum Club in Melbourne. The Prime Minister was re-establishing himself with a small group of businessmen with influence and connections. Moreover, they were closely connected to the party. They included Hugh Morgan, Charles Goode and John Calvert-Jones, all directors of the Liberal Party’s Cormack Foundation, a long-time investment vehicle that provides funds to the party.

Walker hosted another lunch for Nutt in the same vein later that month.

The Cormack Foundation would be closely watched by different divisions of the Liberal Party — keen for its cash. Cormack was established in the 1980s after the Liberal Party sold radio station 3XY and invested the $12 million proceeds in blue-chip stocks. It has earned multiple millions of dollars in dividends over the years, steered by a group of sharp-eyed directors. Chaired by former Western Mining boss Morgan, the board includes Goode, former chairman of ANZ and Woodside; stockbroker Calvert-Jones; Fred Grimwade, formerly at Western Mining and now a principal at Fawkner Capital; and Peter Hay, chairman of Newcrest ­Mining.

It includes a preponderance of lawyers, a handy defence during regular arguments with party officials over where the money should be directed.

As recently as two weeks ago, insiders at the Coalition CHQ in Canberra were complaining ­bitterly that Cormack had promised them more than $2m for the campaign but that this money had been slashed after Kroger insisted it belonged instead to the ­Victorian party, which was still trying to get itself out of the hole caused by a major fraud in the branch ­office.

Cormack, which is understood to have a policy of distributing only dividends, declined to comment. But close observers in the party say that the tradition has ­always been to provide strong support for the maintenance of the Victorian branch — and to ­occasionally make funds available to the federal party.

After substantial payments, disclosed under electoral laws, Cormack has expended most if its cash for now on the clutch of elections over recent years.

It is understood Kroger had ­already argued that any money available should go to the Victorian division, but was rebuffed by the board. The federal party ­argued for more. Nutt’s federal ­office wanted $2m, but the sum provided was closer to $1m.

Nutt was forced to go off-air with his TV advertising for two or three days in the third-last week of the campaign. One furious insider declared: “If we’d had the money it would have been about losing less than five seats at that time.” ­Instead there were 10 in play.

From the other side of the pond, there was no concession that the Coalition appeared to have financial troubles. By the last week of the campaign Wright ­believed Turnbull himself must be footing the bill given the scale of advertising running nightly.

Labor’s campaign, outside the Medicare fight, fell into its own hole after the release of the policy costings on June 26 which showed deeper and longer deficits than Turnbull had revealed. It fed into the argument, with shades of Tony ­Abbott, that Labor was all about debt and deficits, taxing and spending.

On the same day as the Labor costings bombshell almost halted Shorten’s campaign, Wright launched his “Out of Touch” ad. It was designed to attack Turnbull by implying that his personal wealth was a barrier to his ability to understand everyday worries. “Maybe it’s because he never had to rely on these services that Malcolm Turnbull would make a decision to cut health, education and Medicare, cuts to pensions and family payments, and talk up a GST. Malcolm Turnbull is just ­seriously out of touch.”

They had tested the ads with focus groups, finetuning, and the response had been excellent. But at one group, one member told the questioner, Turnbull’s not just out of touch, he’s seriously out of touch. Wright added the word to the mix and tested the ad again. This time it went off the charts.

Many had expected the Turnbull-versus-Shorten battle would be a bloodless affair. Even the calling of the election had no excitement, no fanfare. It dribbled in, like a light rain that had dried by noon. It was in line with Nutt’s strategy to portray Turnbull as a steady and competent manager of the nation in a time of uncertainty — but with a plan. No hoo-has and pompoms, as they expected Labor to turn on.

Still there was an undercurrent between the two men, a note of class war. Turnbull, the son of a single father, and Shorten, the son of a single mother, had worn their ambition like incandescent ­tattoos. Turnbull had reached the top of the business ladder, Shorten had reached the top of the labour ladder. With their broad foreheads, wide smiles and self-determination born of emotional fortitude, each had always intended to be prime minister one day. Turnbull had torn down predecessor Abbott to get there; Shorten had officiated at the political death of his own two predecessors. But he remained a step away from power — as far away as the heartbeat of a nation.

Neither man’s story bore the Shakespearean drama of the ­momentous clash of 1996 between Paul Keating and John Howard, two of the most talented politicians to stalk the stage. Labor’s 13 years of rule under Hawke and Keating had given way to the shock of Howard’s victory, which he in turn carried to 11 years as prime minister. That clash ­resounded with blows as they fought each other to the finish line.

Turnbull visited the Governor-General on May 8. In truth, he had called the election three weeks earlier, on April 19, when he ­announced it — as a second order of business — during a photo op in Canberra. He was not actually calling an election, he said at the time, but Australia would go to the polls for a double-dissolution election on July 2. The budget would be delivered on May 3. Turnbull had committed the country to an eight-week campaign. Purists would call it a 10-week campaign, dating from Turnbull’s first ­announcement on April 19. Either way, and beyond the semantics, it was going to kill everyone ­involved. In a perspicacious comment, Peta Credlin, former chief of staff to Abbott, ­declared in her first newspaper column: “You are probably all sick of it and it’s barely started.”

Many eyes and ears would be tuned to Credlin and Abbott. Would they disrupt the campaign? Would Abbott white-ant Turnbull, transforming 2016 into a rerun of 2010 when Kevin Rudd had undercut Julia Gillard’s campaign. Each knifing had begat more future knifings. No one truly believed the cycle of bloodletting could stop.

Turnbull had begun a fall from grace with the electorate. After a political honeymoon with matchless poll numbers, Turnbull had appeared initially to be some kind of golden figure. But it was not to be sustained — it was a honeymoon, it was rose-coloured glasses, it was dreams, it was an illusion.

The Newspoll that signalled Turnbull’s sharp fall from public favour was a devastating blow to his supporters and all of those who had backed his tilt against Abbott. The front page of The Australian on April 5 had news that sent a shudder through the party: “Turnbull surrenders lead.”

In a bit over two months, Turnbull’s satisfaction rating had crashed 15 points from a post-honeymoon high. Far more ominous was the headline number: Labor was ahead 51-49 per cent in two-party terms, reversing the polls at the start of the year that had the Coalition ahead, 53 to 47 per cent. It was just seven months since Turnbull had challenged ­Abbott.

When finally Turnbull ­approached the Governor-General on May 8, Jacqui Lambie, the troublesome independent senator from Tasmania, declared that the Prime Minister had turned ­Mother’s Day into Turnbull Day.

To the myriad questions thrown by reporters through that day, Turnbull responded that it was an exciting time to be an Australian, that a double dissolution would mean rolling back lawless building unions with the restoration of the watchdog Australian Building and Construction Commission, and, on a positive note, that he looked forward to several campaign debates with Shorten.

Abbott, vanquished, seemed to stay mostly below the radar.

Every now and then, he materialised suddenly on television, perhaps an interview with a true believer from his camp, or a bright wave from a candidate launch for the cameras.

But his followers in the party had barely kept their claws gloved as Turnbull walked on water in the months following the coup.

With the election imminent and Turnbull’s popularity dented after the messy economic debates over the GST and other matters, the party seemed poised for a secondary war between its two prime ministers in addition to the battle between Turnbull, the Prime Minister, and Shorten, the challenger. There could be three potential prime ministers in this fight if ­Abbott chose to argue his own policy positions from the sidelines.

Credlin, seen still by many as Abbott’s forward guard, rattled Turnbull’s cage early, referring to him as Mr Harbourside Mansion on Sky, where she had a new role as an election commentator.

Abbott mostly took to the road, attending campaign launches, helping candidates, shaking hands and smiling. In the final stretch of the election, he could be found wandering along the main street in Brighton-Le-Sands near Sydney airport.

Clad in navy, he strolled with Nick Varvaris, the federal member for Barton, who would go on to lose his seat to Labor’s Linda Burney four days later. “Hey, it’s Tony Abbott,” a couple of big guys said, rushing for a selfie with the former PM. “We’ll definitely be voting Liberal.”

Abbott found a baby to chat to, its enthralled owner happy to stop for a photo. Abbott, making small talk, trying out the fish and chips, walking alone without the entourage of prime ministerial office, looked strangely disconnected. He kept his thoughts to himself.

V for Vegas fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Jul 4, 2016

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Cartoon posted:


Are there more of these salty tears? (Asking for a friend).


Just read Bolter

You destroyed a Prime Minister - a good man - who’d won in a landslide.

You then turned the Liberals into Labor-lite.

You promised more taxes and debt.

You asked for no mandate for reform.

You changed the Senate voting rules to hand the Left control for generations.

You spurned the Liberal base.

You smashed super savings with a giant new tax.

You called colonial settlement an “invasion” and held an Iftar dinner with known hate-preachers.

You preached global warming and same-sex marriage.

You split the party.

You led the Liberals to humiliation at the polls.

You have since blamed everyone but yourself.

You cannot heal the party.

Please resign.

This appeal is signed by the people below:

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Part 2 of the Oz campaign piece

quote:

By early June, campaign reporters being fed a steady diet of Malcolm Turnbull’s “jobs and growth” mantra were wondering where the next news story would come from. The weather was cold and the election was ­almost at its halfway point. ­Debates between the candidates offered ­little respite.

But behind the scenes, a debate over the debates had opened an electrifying chasm with one strand of the media, revealing a deep animosity in the Prime Minister’s ­Office towards leading commentators aligned with dumped prime minister Tony Abbott.

On June 1, a senior member of Turnbull’s staff approached David Speers at Parliament House in Canberra. Speers was the top political reporter on Sky News, known for his professional acuity and even-handed style. It was made clear to Speers that while Sky might want to host more debates (after a first “people’s forum” conducted on May 13), there would be none on Sky involving the Prime Minister so long as Abbott’s former chief of staff, Peta Credlin, ­remained on the payroll as an election commentator.

It was a threat as clear as a sledgehammer and taken as such. Speers immediately contacted his boss, Sky chief executive Angelos Frangopoulos. It was clear the Prime Minister’s Office regarded Credlin with deadly venom. While she was on Sky, Turnbull would not appear. If this was the cut and thrust of electioneering, it had just become very bloody.

Frangopoulos was stunned and he contacted Turnbull’s office. ­Before the election campaign had commenced, back in March, Sky had met with senior Liberals to discuss debate proposals. The first of these had been held at Windsor RSL, west of Sydney, on May 13 after ­negotiations with both political parties.

Credlin had been announced as a commentator at the end of March. Her observations would be pithy and spiky. On May 12 she had criticised Turnbull on-air after the Prime Minister cancelled a Penrith street walk with the local Liberal member, Fiona Scott, following media questions about Scott’s loyalty to Abbott in last September’s leadership coup. It looked elitist to cancel the street walk, Credlin declared, going on to call Turnbull “Mr Harbourside Mansion”. (Scott lost her seat to Labor’s Emma Husar on Saturday).

The following day, May 13, Turnbull was to debate Bill Shorten in a widely advertised Sky-Daily Telegraph forum. The event ran live on Facebook, a social media platform so important to Turnbull, but the audience ruled it as a win for the Labor leader.

Sky executives later wrote to thank both parties and to confirm an interest in a further “forum”, which might include The Courier-Mail newspaper in Brisbane. There was no response from either side of politics.

Two weeks later, Speers was threatened over Credlin’s role when it was made clear to him there would be no further co-operation from Turnbull while Credlin was employed. Frangopoulos said yesterday that he had taken the matter up with Turnbull’s ­office. “The issue was immediately raised with the PMO and the matter ­resolved. I have no further comment,” he said.

The next day, June 2, Sky emailed the Liberal and Labor parties to again invite them to a Brisbane forum on June 8. This event would also run live on Facebook. The ALP responded within minutes, accepting the proposal.

Turnbull’s office did not ­respond. Not then and not later. Instead, his office tied up an agreement for a debate with News Corp and Facebook.

Turnbull, giving no hint of the fight between his office and Sky over Credlin in previous days, ­announced that he had refused the Sky debate as it had been issued like “a decree” and should have been raised with his office. He said he wanted an innovative debate taking advantage of social media, and that it was an exciting time to be an Australian.

On Wednesday, June 8, Shorten faced the audience on his own at Sky’s people’s forum at the Brisbane Broncos Leagues Club. Turnbull instead bobbed up on the ABC’s 7.30 program. If he had wanted to poke a stick at Sky he could not have found a better way.

Tensions over Abbott had run just below the surface of the Turnbull campaign since the beginning. Should Abbott decide to make ­serious trouble for Turnbull — ­agitating, planting stories, destabilising — there would be no Liberal victory. Abbott himself was more than aware of this rocky terrain.

Turnbull had steadily refused to extend an olive branch to senior conservatives, roiling them further after the coup. But Abbott would campaign mostly in a low-key fashion, only occasionally breaking out. He quarantined himself from criticism from Coalition campaign headquarters by negotiating his planned interviews in advance with the office of Liberal party director Tony Nutt.

Before he appeared on TV with the conservative commentator and ardent Abbott supporter ­Andrew Bolt, Abbott agreed with Nutt’s CHQ that he would help calm the conservative base, much of which was still seething.

Abbott had stayed in touch with his former deputy chief of staff, Andrew Hirst, who had worked for Turnbull before joining Abbott and was now communications director in CHQ for Nutt.

Abbott and Hirst discussed the forthcoming Bolt interview. Nutt conveyed his requests to Abbott through Hirst. Nutt wanted ­Abbott to “calm the del-cons” (a clever shorthand for “delusional conservatives”, penned by columnist Miranda Divine).

Abbott agreed. He would not criticise Turnbull on air and would avoid agreeing with Bolt’s propositions if they implied an attack on the Prime Minister. Abbott had no wish to be blamed for a defeat at the ballot box. Likewise, from campaign headquarters, the very thought of Abbott off the reservation was enough to send people reaching for the migraine pills.

By mid-June, Nutt’s main TV ad campaign had started to turn up the heat under Shorten, with a blast of old footage revealing the Labor leader supporting company tax cuts in 2012 designed to conjure the twin themes of economic credibility and hypocrisy. Nutt’s social media team had highlighted on Facebook ALP spending, with a “ka-ching” accompanying each spending promise. The message was: “Same old Labor.”

The Turnbull “Dad” video, as it became known, celebrating Turnbull’s early days with his father, made his rivals groan. It was ­impossible for Labor to smash as it notched up more than 637,000 views on Turnbull’s Facebook page. For the third week of June, Nutt planned more ads around the economic message, including more on the “jobs and growth” plan that had become so exhaustingly boring for journalists. “We bow at the altar of the plan,” quip­ped one senior Liberal.

The Coalition had run a digital response to Labor’s Medicare scare almost immediately, but the television rebuttals came late. This ALP Medicare gamble was on the way to becoming a monster, and it was too late and too hard for the Coalition to run it to ground. Shorten had campaigned on Medicare from the start. It had been a key element of the grid containing all of Labor’s campaign hot buttons. The ad featuring Bob Hawke had refuelled it.

The more Turnbull argued that it was all a lie, the more Shorten revved up his campaign. By the end there would be nowhere to hide from Labor’s Medicare prosecution. Turnbull could shout himself hoarse stating that Medicare was safe, but Shorten would spring up immediately, warning that it was Medicare or Malcolm.

Shorten had not proved the easy target Labor had taken him for. The trade union royal commission had perhaps inured the public to Shorten’s union history. They had heard it all before. They had tuned out. Still, Turnbull made little of the union story. He struck a blow occasionally but it seemed desultory, rather than a tenet of his election narrative.

If Turnbull seemed to campaign above the fray, Shorten campaigned as though his life ­depended on it. He had decided over the Christmas break that he would restart an exercise regime, running daily. He took advice about his suits. He prepared for a marathon. He wanted to be fit for office. He reshaped the team around him too. Late last year he contacted Peter Barron, one of Labor’s legendary tacticians, whose CV as a strategist and ­adviser harks back to the Hawke years. Barron has played a fundamental role in Shorten’s campaign, adding aggression and acting as counsellor.

Shorten’s chief of staff, Cam­eron Milner, formerly Queensland Labor’s director, was on his 31st campaign. He had worked in campaign HQ in 2010 and in 2007 he was in Queensland for Kevin Rudd. He did not underestimate Nutt or Liberal pollster Mark Textor. Shorten’s policy director Amit Singh joined him two years ago, a veteran of Rudd-Gillard. Media director and adviser Ryan Liddell has been with Shorten for three years. Together they formed Shorten’s inner sanctum, and together they had decided they were not going to die wondering.

Shorten made it clear he would campaign till he dropped. They had all expected Turnbull to call the election late last year while his popularity was at a high. But ­December came and went. Then they expected March. The anticipation had sent Shorten into a binge of early campaigning.

By election day, he would have racked up more than 30 “town hall” meetings.

On Shorten’s first day back after holidays in January, he took a supermarket walk with the cameras, discussing the impact of a 15 per cent GST increase. He asked a shopper about their favourite lettuce, a question which gave rise to ridicule and social media obsessions. The gallery mocked Shorten as awkward with a weird style in small-talk. But he pressed on; it would be GST this and GST that. And it was not be long before Turnbull abandoned all talk of a GST hike. Six months later, after all the town halls and supermarkets, Shorten had clearly found his feet. Even the conservative side of politics grudgingly granted that he was campaigning far better than Turnbull — although ambitious competitors inside Labor’s frontbench hothouse would never miss an ­opportunity to try to undermine him.

Milner liked to keep a close eye on Turnbull. Labor had hatched a scheme to track polling numbers on Turnbull from back in 2009. For the first half of that year Turnbull had been popular. In the second half, he was deeply unpopular. Milner wanted to make the comparison with Turnbull as Prime Minister. The theory went that if Turnbull was under pressure he would crack.

When floods hit Tasmania in early June, the two campaigns wrestled over first rights to a visit to the state, complete with all the accompanying media fanfare. Both sides were keen to avoid disrupting the emergency response in Tasmania, but neither side wanted the other to get there first. The Tasmanians wanted the mainlanders to wait a day or two.

Milner called Drew Clarke, Turnbull’s chief of staff, to propose a joint visit. Shorten texted Turnbull himself. Milner’s call did not go well. He reported to Shorten that the Prime Minister’s Office said they were going to Tasmania alone. Shorten was in Brisbane preparing for the people’s forum the Prime Minister had skipped. Turnbull phoned Shorten to say that both of them together would attract far too many journalists and camera crews, creating a distraction the emergency services in Tasmania could well do without.

Shorten offered a compromise. He was willing to cut back his travelling team and agree to a pool of journalists, with everyone on the same plane. Turnbull refused. The leaders would travel in separate convoys, trailing through the worst-hit areas and talking to exhausted local officials.

Tired journalists who had done the “Bill Bus” beat the week before were horrified at the change in the landscape — the drowned animals, the inundated farmland, the torrential. As Shorten conducted a press conference, the media pack came in close. Standing way back was Peter Barron, watching closely. Thinking about the next stop, the next ­attack.

Photographers, sick of being controlled by Turnbull’s media managers had come up with bright ideas, shooting the Prime Minister from behind. They were quickly moved on. They were annoyed that Turnbull was virtually impossible to get into a silly hat. It would take a few goes to even get him into hi-tech goggles. Together with the bland economic, no-frills message, Turnbull was the more difficult of the two leaders for a media pack looking for a spark. Only the top commentators would dissect the interior of the economic plans, the size of Turnbull’s tax cuts for business, and ultimately Labor’s admission that its deficits would balloon larger than the Coalition’s.

Labor had developed what it called “the grid”, listing issues that had been well-tested and which it knew resonated with voters. The objective was to establish Shorten as a positive alternative and to drive home the message on health and education, with the campaign ­underpinning being that health, education and being “out of touch” were the key weaknesses on Turnbull’s side. From early January, Shorten had stayed right on the grid. He did not indulge thought bubbles or ­digress. It became second nature.

The grid included the GST, which appeared to be poison in the marginals. It was an issue Labor would try to prosecute at every ­opportunity. Shorten remained on message, stayed on the grid. It kept Labor going right up until the election was called. It shifted perceptions in focus groups. Last year Shorten was Mr 14 per cent. By the time the new year came around, things were changing.

Since then, many other policies were hung from the edges of the grid — banks, tax cuts. Labor’s first three-week message was Turnbull was out of touch. It then moved to anti-privatisation, cuts to services and tax cuts for the big end of town. Once Labor’s policies were all “out”, two weeks before election day, the message would be tightened back to the core of the grid: health (Medicare), education and “out of touch”.

On Monday, June 20, with Labor’s Medicare scare campaign in full swing, Turnbull met with Nutt and Textor. The two men had travelled to Sydney from Canberra to take Turnbull through the polling and Nutt’s strategy for the final two weeks of the campaign.

Turnbull was sick and throwing down antibiotics and flu tablets. After an event in western Sydney, Turnbull had headed to an RAAF base to board the flight with the pollster and the campaign director. They took their seats in the forward cabin. They were joined by Turnbull’s principal private secretary Sally Cray and deputy chief of staff Brad Burke (a close and trusted adviser to Turnbull), with Burke on a camp chair. They went through the direct mail plan, the latest track, the ads coming and the robo calls.

They were focusing on seats where there was not a clear run. Queensland seemed strong in terms of local candidates. Turnbull wanted to know whether certain issues were tracking better in some areas, such as the NBN. When they arrived in Brisbane, Nutt and Textor left to return to Canberra. Turnbull had to conserve his voice; he was set to appear in a one-to-one interview on the ABC’s Q&A program that night.

Two days later, a new round of fundraising letters were pumped out to Liberal supporters. From Mathias Cormann came an email oddly titled “The final straw”.

“You won’t believe Labor’s latest lie,” it started. “They have been working overtime with their union allies to mislead people, telling them that the government is going to privatise Medicare. That is an outright lie …”

It closed with a request for a ­donation to fight the Labor scourge, escalating from $10 to $30 or more. An email from John Howard followed two days later, headed: “You should know.” This one urged the return of Turnbull, the Liberal team and the plan for jobs and growth. Howard asked for donations of $15 to $100. The risk, he warned, was a ­return to the chaos of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd years.

The campaigns wound towards the finale, with the Liberal’s so-called rally, which was really a launch, and where photographers again compared notes about how to get Turnbull to relax. He had been a nightmare to get into the virtual reality goggles in Cairns and donned them only after media protests and disappointment from the locals. He took them off just as quickly. He had refused to put a snake around his neck while in Nambour even after the owner assured him it would relax. He had refused to pick up a beer for a photo at the Mornington Peninsula Brewery, which the photographer Mike Bowers dubbed un-Australian. The campaign launch had gone well, as low-key as ­imaginable, with Nutt operating the microphone, ducking down behind a black curtain then popping up again.

A central focus of Labor’s campaign had been the Bill Bus, complete with Shorten’s face plastered on the side. The idea had been to take the bus from Cairns to Canberra over the first two weeks of the campaign — the dead-zone weeks. Sam Dastyari had organised it with Shorten’s office and volunteered to man the barricades, so to speak. In the end, they took the Bill Bus all the way to Perth. They would take it through every seat and co-ordinate with Shorten to join them in the marginals. Some of the cost came through crowd-funding as Dastyari posted videos online begging for funding. By the mid-point of the long trek, Dastyari had learned that they should avoid parking in shopping centres and main streets where people attempted to board the bus, sometimes complaining that it was running late. Some wanted to check if Shorten was on board. Late at night, as the bus rolled through dark countryside with Doug Catt at the wheel, Dastyari, his adviser Brendan Bolton and videographer Roland Kay-Smith (who was documenting the road trip) would turned on a karaoke machine and let rip.

Eventually the bus gained a life of its own. After requests from Tasmania to bring the bus to town, they armed themselves with Kwells, took the 15-hour overnight ferry crossing, and rolled into the old Inveresk railyards for a photo op with the local candidate.

Soon the bus had taken on a life of its own. In one small town it became the focus of a street party. Later, in the freezing cold, 60 people emerged from a pub to have their photos taken next to the bus.

At the mid-point in the campaign, Shorten seemed to be outperforming Turnbull. Labor wondered if Nutt was somehow containing his man. They detected a reduction in the number of street walks. In the second week, the Liberals had backgrounded journalists that they would lose a net four seats. That information had quickly made its way over the fence to Labor. Perhaps it was a plant. By week four, they were giving journalists lists of 10-12 seats they could lose. Finally, they were talking up a hung parliament, which meant losing 15-16 seats.

It had been Turnbull’s election to lose, not Shorten’s to win. And yet Shorten, with a six-month campaign to reshape the Labor message and his undiminished war cry over Medicare, had reached the victory line. Neck and neck with his ­quarry.

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Sep 1, 2004

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V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Amethyst posted:

Kind of amazed Baird is actually going through with the Greyhound ban. I guess it frees up some prime real estate, and will win back some of the youth vote he's squandered.

They have wanted to tear down Wentworth Park for years.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Kat Delacour posted:

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Also don't forget your identifying information is being recorded for the first time this year. Dunno how you wanna futz that and whether participation is voluntary or not.

The former Australian Statistician says the ABS does not have the power to compel people to provide identifying information as the ABS can only collect information for the purpose of statistical analysis and no statistical analysis will be undertaken of people's identifying information. Although the ABS has a different take.

Full paper here - https://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/ABS-Census_2016_and_Privacy_v8.pdf

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Sep 1, 2004

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Kat Delacour posted:

If I didn't fill out the Name field though there is enough information on there for the department(s) to double down and issue fines. Ala the old Centrelink trick of surprising you with updates they collected through other gov agencies.



edit: what I'm saying is, even if the act means they have no authorisation to get names will that stop them trying to bully people because they said it was compulsory?

They absolutely would. Then you would receive a fine and have to spend thousands on lawyers to make an argument on statutory interpretation to get out of it.

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