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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
In a follow up to my post in the last thread, regarding the insider traders defence of "he was acting too dumb to be guilty" http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3774162&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=86#post460455956

Shockingly he was convicted of 45 counts of insider trading, who knew a defence of "this is too obvious a paper trail to have been criminal" would fail.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Snod. posted:

I mean when all else fails it can't hurt to try "I'm too dumb to do something wrong on purpose"

He could've tried pleading guilty

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Literally

Beyond

Parody

Liberal-leaning think tank the Institute of Public Affairs has taken insider trader Oliver Curtis as its cause celebre, arguing that white-collar criminals should literally pay for their crimes rather than face prison.

Such a move would remove prison as a deterrence for many corporate criminals, including the executives jailed over the collapse of HIH Insurance.

The IPA posted a column on Thursday by staffer Andrew Bushnell that said: "Curtis should have to pay a fine sufficiently large that it hurts him and communicates the public's outrage." It also appeared in the Australian Financial Review.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
"It might be argued that this is unfair because it allows wealthy offenders to buy their way out of prison. But there is a genuine principle at stake," Bushnell said.

"Whatever their social status, non-violent, low-risk offenders should be given the chance to avoid prison."

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Recoome posted:

lol Libs/Labor working together for realsies

It gets better

The Liberal party will get Labor preferences in three rural seats to help fend off threats from Nationals candidates as part of a deal in which the Liberals will preference Labor ahead of the Greens in inner-city seats where those preferences would have given the Greens a chance of defeating Labor MPs.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Vaccination sceptics and natural medicine advocates positioning themselves as the Health Australia Party have landed the coveted first column on the NSW Senate ballot paper.

The spot of luck risks a repeat of the Liberal Democrats' accidental success in 2013, when David Leyonhjelm drew prime position, which was widely thought to have got him elected.


(Possible but unlikely, Leyonholm also had the fact his name confused the elderly with the Liberal Party)

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Ummmm... change places?

EXCLUSIVE

Labor will preference the Greens ahead of the Liberals across the country and is considering a deal with Nick Xenophon, which could see the Independent Senator pick up three Liberal seats in South Australia and possibly even Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne's seat of Sturt.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
There are a lot of similarities between Orlando and the Sydney siege. The only great difference seems to be is the outcome.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

hooman posted:

He's not technically wrong, the danger that gay marriage poses to children has stayed exactly the same at 0.

That said though, you have to loving wonder how such reprehensible bile spewing assholes are ever preselected.

His name rung bells

http://www.news.com.au/national/i-w...r-1225994542432

Oh it's this Fred Nile mother fucker.

Mr Madden also targeted Prime Minister Julia Gillard, asking: "Are we happy that a self-professed atheist in a de facto relationship sits in the seat of power?"

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Recoome posted:

lol reactionary justification against Islam (again)

Meh, in honesty gently caress this guy. We get rightly pissed when anti-vaccination preachers or Christian fundamentalists calling for murder get kicked to the curb here. It's not a good sign to be a moral relativist about these things when the morals espoused by the individuals are abhorrent.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

open24hours posted:

I don't think being in favour of an immigration department that isn't run on an ad-hoc basis counts as moral relativism.

We can do the debate about how Chris Brown was different from Eminem again, but this doesn't seem to be much of a hill to die on.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Recoome posted:

Yes but when does this really even happen?

I mean literally MPs and prominent public figures have this absolutely awful views and no-one bats an eyelid, but better start kicking out all the bad brownskins they are so degenerate. I'm not excusing the bad opinions/whatever it's just ironic how this comes out now, after there's been a mass shooting against LGBTIQ+ in the US by someone who happens to be Muslim.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/us-antivaccination-campaigner-dr-sherri-tenpenny-cancels-tour-of-australia-20150128-130qa4.html

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/hillsong-church-cancels-pastor-mark-driscolls-australian-visit-after-backlash-20150607-ghijl9.html

Not the government but there is a consistent theme to "gently caress off" when it comes to people like this.

Government ones tend to involve misogynists

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/07/protesters-force-us-pick-up-artist-julien-blanc-to-quit-australian-tour

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...201-gmj70h.html

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

quote:

The surviving son of a former Australian family who were axed to death in South Africa has handed himself into police in South Africa.

South Africa media is reporting Henri van Breda, 21, arrived at the Stellenbosch Police station with his attorney on Monday in connection with the attack on his family.

Martin van Breda ‚ 54‚ his wife Teresa‚ 55‚ and their elder son‚ Rudi‚ 22‚ were found axed to death in their home on the De Zalze Golf Estate on 27 January 2015.

No arrests have been made over the killings.

At the time, Henri told police told he was attacked last and was knocked unconscious, next to his mother and sister Marli, 17, who also survived the attack.

At the time of the attack, doctors said Henri's wounds – a bruise to the head and scratches – were self-inflicted and he waited up to four hours before calling emergency services after his family was slain.

He had enlisted high-profile South African defence lawyer Pieter Botha, who famously defended British millionaire Shrien Dewani - who was accused of killing his wife Anne during their honeymoon in South Africa in 2010. The charges were dismissed in 2014.

A triple-0 call Henri made after the attack appears to have him snigger when telling the operator members of his family were "bleeding from the head".

Forgot about this story but... yeah

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/the-light-and-shade-of-roger-rogerson/7475700

The gently caress is this gushing profile? "The dark side won." He laments about a man known to have murdered four people, suspected in more, took bribes, ran protection racket, corrupt as the day is young... but no lets lament that he was a good ol boy.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Great company at the pub, lamenting the loss of literal scum.

He locked up a lot of bad people! But was paid off by others and killed cops to protect them!

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

did Norm Macdonald write that "puff piece"?

I'm legit furious about this, I'm assuming that the reason this wasn't tighter edited (or outright removed because reading it goes to great lengths to justify Roger Rogerson planting evidence on people) is because the guy that wrote it is the bloody senior editor so he is the higher up to nix this poo poo. I read the Australian, the Telegraph, and all the other Murdoch rags from time to time because I think it's important to see what the other side is saying (slandering probably a better word) but rarely do I see something so clearly just... wrong and with no idea of the pulse of its readership or the public. It's loving insane.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Senor Tron posted:

At the last election, didn't the ASP preference One Nation ahead of the Greens?

There's a feud between the Sex Party and the Greens - namely that the Sex Party (as well as being run by the sex industry) are third wave pro-porn pro-sex feminists, whereas The Greens have a tinge of second wave militant, and to some aspects anti-porn and anti-sex, feminism (i.e. proposing the Swedish Model for prostitution which puts them alongside right wing Liberal's and Evangelical Christian's). It's all a remnant of the feminist sex wars but as the Sex Party is, well, the Sex party, it's a sticking point between the two and the slapfights are huge.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Domain is this hilkarious little bubble that every now and then posts 21 year olds with 21 properties and you can do it too

also 21 million in debt

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Paingod556 posted:

I was gonna say, wasn't this exact same story posted last year? "I want 10 properties by the time I'm 30, no I don't believe in investment bubbles, America's was a fluke"

also this

http://www.domain.com.au/news/what-does-1-million-get-you-around-australia-20160610-gpegtt/

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Vladimir Poutine posted:

These are the people I've got in the seat of Adelaide

GUY Sophie The Greens
RIVISH Adrian Family First
TIDSWELL Matt Animal Justice Party
LOCK Tyrone Liberal Democrats
COLOVIC David Liberal
ELLIS Kate Australian Labor Party
HILL Joe Nick Xenophon Team

loving lol at this guy:


The funniest thing about this guy is Tenth Planet. As MMA people would know thats Eddie Bravo aka "you perform better while on quaaludes" essentially. Joe Rogan is also a perpetually stoned devotee.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
MALCOLM Turnbull tried to fool us about gay-hating and bigoted Islam when he held his end-of-Ramadan dinner on Thursday at Kirribilli house.

With the bodies not yet buried from the latest Islamist attack – this time on a gay nightclub – the Prime Minister made sure he was joined at his head table by the most photogenic and least representative Muslims he could find.

On his right sat a white ex-Christian Muslim convert, academic Susan Carland, joined by her husband, TV star Waleed Aly.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Anidav posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0
"Who just wants to get ahead with an investment property!"

How out of loving touch do you have to get to run an ad on this on TV?

scoff.gif

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

You Am I posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tisation-attack

Turnbull has dropped the plan to privatise the payment system for Medicare

Bob Hawke is essentially a nuke when it comes to campaigning

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
"Liberal senator Cory Bernardi has launched a blistering attack on Malcolm Turnbull, accusing him of implying that he and other Coalition MPs are homophobic."

“The demand for tolerance by leftists is nothing more than a thinly veiled insistence that you surrender your views, your values and your beliefs in favour of theirs.”

“If you don’t, the name calling starts. You instantly become a ‘phobe’, a ‘bigot’ or worse. These slurs are designed to shut down any sensible dialogue or meaningful discussion about the subject matter at hand.”

I'd be attacking it too for only being an implication.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Can you imagine how undeservedly smug Abbott would feel if the libs lost and Turnbull lost his seat?

If he'd just kept MY policies...

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
While in a waiting room this popped up on the TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-zJ_Y2x1mY

Oh God it's out in the wild

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Watch that inflation soooooooar.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
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And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
The Baby Boomers, managing to ruin the entire world before they finally cark it.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And I'm not afraid to die.
Scotland rejected independence because they didn't want to go into the EU alone.

CHANGE

FROM

WITHIN

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And I'm not afraid to die.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

You'd think so but then you get old and somehow the good world economic state was because you worked hard and these punk kids just need to get a job rather than complain...

That cliche used to work except Gen Y gets to be the first generation to make less than their parents so if we create a good economy it's going to be through undoing a whole bunch of errors.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

wombat74 posted:

SNP don't have the majority in Holyrood, but the Greens have said they are "open" to supporting a new referendum on independence. They have enough eats to give SNP the majority they need to call it, so in reality another referendum could be called pretty quickly.

What's really scaring me right now are the renewed calls from Sinn Fein for reunification for Ireland

if the pound continues to collapse the Brits may have to reach out to a non-EU friend to aid them from Ireland's renewed army and independence

this period will be known as The Roubles

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Pretty sure that's the slogan they used:




Also, doesn't Murdoch have even greater media presence in the UK than here? I can only imagine how toxic that must be for a country.

Less actually, but thats because Australia is an outlier. This isn't a benefit, England has tonnes of other lovely rags ala the Mail.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

open24hours posted:

The Commonwealth basically hasn't existed in any meaningful way for decades anyway. Leave or stay you wouldn't even notice a difference.

At this point i trust the Commonwealth Games to be run better than the Olympics.

Edit: this is not entirely factoring in Brexit.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Well thats probably still better than Rio.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
A secret push is under way within the Coalition party room to hobble any positive public vote in favour of same-sex marriage equality by giving conservative MPs and senators express permission to vote in Parliament against reform if their individual electorates had voted in a majority for "no".

Senators would be able to claim the exemption from a national "yes" vote if their home states had voted "no".

The ploy, which was to be kept under wraps until after the election, has been crafted to allow conservative anti-marriage equality campaigners to concentrate their resources in conservative-leaning regional and outer-suburban electorates where there is the greatest chance of winning enough individual contests to frustrate an expected popular vote, in Parliament.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
T H E T R O U B L E S

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-rise-of-the-millionaire-labor-voter-20160624-gprf0x.html

How house prices have created the Millionaire Labor.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

hooman posted:

Can the Libs cut the company Tax Rate with a hostile senate?

Morrison has started to trot out the "mandate" argument again, so someone out back has shined up that old chestnut to argue that not to pass tax cuts to the party in power is overruling the Will of the People.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
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And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
SCIENCE PARTY / CYCLISTS PARTY
The nerds and the lycra crew are combining their forces in Victoria! As a certified nerd, I can dig pretty much 100% of what they’re standing for. Interesting that they propose the creation of an Australian Charter City. WTF is a charter city? Basically a place that’s set up to be a center of science and technology excellence in Australia. They wanna call it Turing

Im having the strangest case of deja vu

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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An eye for an eye
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And I'm not afraid to die.

Frogmanv2 posted:

Does he have strong opinions on how the hugos should be awarded?

I appreciated this. A lot.

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