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Going to a Legacy FNM this week with borrowed Reanimator (U/B/g with Archetype of Endurance, Golgari Charm, and Abrupt Decays). Playing the deck for the first time, what advice would you guys give me? I have watched other people play the archetype and watched MODO videos. This is pretty close to what my friend has sleeved up right now, though he did mention MD Thoughtseize. Thanks!
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ScarletBrother posted:Going to a Legacy FNM this week with borrowed Reanimator (U/B/g with Archetype of Endurance, Golgari Charm, and Abrupt Decays). Playing the deck for the first time, what advice would you guys give me? I have watched other people play the archetype and watched MODO videos. Archetype of Endurance was bad for the very limited number of times I played this deck.
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Jun 6, 2016 20:01
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mcmagic posted:Archetype of Endurance was bad for the very limited number of times I played this deck. Yeah but beggars can't be choosers. What would you replace it with?
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Jun 6, 2016 20:08
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ScarletBrother posted:Yeah but beggars can't be choosers. What would you replace it with? I like the singleton Jace or if you're on a budget, Hapless Researcher in that deck.
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Jun 6, 2016 20:10
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mcmagic posted:I like the singleton Jace or if you're on a budget, Hapless Researcher in that deck. I think my buddy has a Jace I can also borrow. Thanks! Any piloting tips? Edit: Just realized that I'm not sure if you meant Mind Sculptor or Vryn's Prodigy... ScarletBrother fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 20:13
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ScarletBrother posted:I think my buddy has a Jace I can also borrow. Thanks! I always like just jamming with a deck like this and if they have the answer they just have it. Edit. I mean Little Jace.
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Jun 6, 2016 20:16
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mcmagic posted:I always like just jamming with a deck like this and if they have the answer they just have it. No you meant Flip Jace
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Jun 6, 2016 22:05
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Skyl3lazer posted:No you meant Flip Jace I knew he meant VP and not Jace Beleren.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:09
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CompeAnansi posted:So this legacy Eldrazi deck (+ 1 Strip Mine) went 6-1-1 at a recent NYC vintage tournament: https://twitter.com/JMJACO/status/739256500061868032 Those leylines of the void are freaking awesome.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:54
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Skyl3lazer posted:No you meant Flip Jace The littlest Jace.
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Jun 7, 2016 05:26
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eSporks posted:Wild dogs != Wild Mongrel. Dogs is there to be a cantrip you can pact for, good for getting into doomsday piles. ?????? I didn't say wild mongrel i said it's not dead in your hand (the cycling) which can be used with pact also, and you can culling the weak/cruel bargain/cabal therapy it in pinch Bugsy posted:Those leylines of the void are freaking awesome. I need to acquire them
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Jun 7, 2016 06:02
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AgentSythe posted:?????? I do think my faorite part of that deck is just being a storm deck with a way to flashback therapy.
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Jun 7, 2016 16:20
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Maybe this post belongs in the main MTG thread, but I don't read that one. While watching VSL they were talking about the risk of running "off color" moxes in eldrazi decks. Wizards swears that eldrazi mana is not a 6th a color, but when you start weighing the costs of off color moxen it absolutely is. After seeing these eldrazi decks play out for a while, they definitely do run into mana problems, they do get blown out by bloodmoon. It functionally plays exactly as a 6th color would. So wizards line about it not being a 6th color is BS.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:22
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I really hate the Eldrazi white manabase, it looks absolutely awful. They usually run 6 plains/karakas, 1 mox pearl, 1 black lotus, and 4 cavern for white sources with often 3+ creatures with nonoverlapping creature types(some combination of Thalia, Wingmare, Displacer, Stoneforge) and then they have cards like Rest in Peace or Disenchant in their sideboard and somehow they expect to cast all these spells. If I was playing that deck the first thing I would go would be cut 3 moxen/caverns/cities for 3 white sources. They can be plains, they can be Brushlands (if you're worried about colorless sources), they can be something else entirely, I don't care. I just don't understand how anyone can look at that manabase and go "hmm, yes, this is correct".
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Jun 8, 2016 19:28
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The green/white eldrazi list is actually superior to the mono-whit eone just because brushland is a triland effectively.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:31
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L0cke17 posted:The green/white eldrazi list is actually superior to the mono-whit eone just because brushland is a triland effectively. I've never seen GW Eldrazi in Vintage, but I don't follow the format closely. Got a list?
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Jun 8, 2016 19:54
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Elyv posted:I really hate the Eldrazi white manabase, it looks absolutely awful. They usually run 6 plains/karakas, 1 mox pearl, 1 black lotus, and 4 cavern for white sources with often 3+ creatures with nonoverlapping creature types(some combination of Thalia, Wingmare, Displacer, Stoneforge) and then they have cards like Rest in Peace or Disenchant in their sideboard and somehow they expect to cast all these spells. If I was playing that deck the first thing I would go would be cut 3 moxen/caverns/cities for 3 white sources. They can be plains, they can be Brushlands (if you're worried about colorless sources), they can be something else entirely, I don't care. I just don't understand how anyone can look at that manabase and go "hmm, yes, this is correct".
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Jun 8, 2016 20:21
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Elyv posted:I've never seen GW Eldrazi in Vintage, but I don't follow the format closely. Got a list? Its on the Mana Drain but TMD is down right now. Its under the eldrazi thread.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:23
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PSA you can get the mirror in the legacy gauntlet on MTGO. I assumed this would not be the case, but after putting my opponent on storm he tried to go for the turn 2 study/reanimate (which was also my turn 2 play!). Thankfully I didn't study the turn before and also had force, easy games boys.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:48
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The March Hare posted:PSA you can get the mirror in the legacy gauntlet on MTGO. I assumed this would not be the case, but after putting my opponent on storm he tried to go for the turn 2 study/reanimate (which was also my turn 2 play!). Thankfully I didn't study the turn before and also had force, easy games boys. That's a weird but understandable decision. I wonder if someone get an all-painter bracket.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:52
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eSporks posted:Yea, that decks mana is atrocious. It's a 2 color deck with no fetch lands. This is exactly what I mean, wizards takes the firm stance than eldrazi mana was not a 6th color, and some techno babble about how the mechanic has always existed and is nothing new. Then you see the constraints it puts on play and deck building, and it absolutely is a 6th color.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:59
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So it plays exactly like a 6th color, but worse. Lol.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:19
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Played Miracles in a League run, mirror match 4 out of 6 matches (had one nullified for a feature/bug issue). Go to run the Gauntlet... get Miracles. Sigh.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:25
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eSporks posted:Yea, that decks mana is atrocious. It's a 2 color deck with no fetch lands. This is exactly what I mean, wizards takes the firm stance than eldrazi mana was not a 6th color, and some techno babble about how the mechanic has always existed and is nothing new. Then you see the constraints it puts on play and deck building, and it absolutely is a 6th color. I mean, you're right; it is effectively a sixth color. It's possibly to build a decent 2 color manabase without fetches, though. You just might have to make some sacrifices.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:32
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The worst thing about legacy gauntlet is absolutely the basic lands btw.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:51
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The March Hare posted:The worst thing about legacy gauntlet is absolutely the basic lands btw. I know, I almost puked. The upside to getting the deck I actually play is that I know the match-ups really well. Poor poor Lands guy... edit: pretty easy 3-0. First two matches were walkovers. Third match was tough, guy was a good player that got Shardless BUG, but I Blood Moon'd him out game 2 and 3. empathe fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 22:00
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It's the 6th color and it owns.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:33
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The March Hare posted:The worst thing about legacy gauntlet is absolutely the basic lands btw. What basics are they using?
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Jun 9, 2016 00:39
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Cernunnos posted:What basics are they using? SoI
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Jun 9, 2016 00:41
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Wow. That's actually lame.
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Jun 9, 2016 00:46
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They should 100% be using Unhinged Basics and Expeditions where possible.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:05
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empathe posted:They should 100% be using Unhinged Basics and Expeditions where possible. Each deck should have a different theme - some should be all foiled expeditions, some should be using revised basics to match their white border duals (are duals white border on MTGO?), one deck should be unglued, one judge promos, etc etc.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:42
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There are no white-bordered duals on MTGO, unfortunately.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:54
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Can you "fix" the basic lands the same way you do when putting your draft deck together?
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Jun 9, 2016 04:10
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Elyv posted:I've never seen GW Eldrazi in Vintage, but I don't follow the format closely. Got a list? http://www.themanadrain.com/topic/350/white-eldrazi/4 For gw eldrazi. The main takeaway is bushland and horizon canopy are insane, and Noble hierarch pushes you over the top in the mirror, allowing you to push through damage with exalted triggers and wasteland more without colorscrewing yourself. YMMV of course, but it looks great to me.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:28
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A guy playing Mardu Nahiri control went undefeated in my Modern FNM, was a pretty cool looking deck. I think this is a pretty close deck list to what he ran http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/422212#online
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Ran a second Legacy Gauntlet, got Punishing Knight. 3-0'd vs. all blue decks. Blue is clearly overrated. Match 1 vs. ANT Game 1: Opened w/ Chalice on 1 w/ a Mox Diamond, matter of time. Game 2: He Empty'd on turn 2 for 6 dudes, forgot to sideboard out Maze of Iths which actually saved me lol. GSZ's for a Scavenging Ooze and eventually stuck a Liliana. Match 2 vs. Shardless BUG Game 1: Wasteland locked him pretty hard on Loam. He scooped pretty early. Nothing like getting that Ancestral Vision with no lands in play, huh? Game 2: Stuck a choke on turn 3 after he Decay'd my Sylvan Library. Got a Liliana and Punishing/Grove up. He flooded after that and eventually got out from under Choke but at that point he was top decking. Match 3 vs. Sneak and Show Game 1: He forced by Chalice on 1 and eventually played a Show and Tell. I put a Knight into play. He drew 7 cards, discarded to hand size on his turn. I untap, play Liliana. He draws another 7 to find force, whiffs, and I have him sac and swing lethal with Knight. Game 2: He show and tells an Emrakul into play on Turn 2, I put in a Knight. Cast Containment Priest which sticks and Knight for Karakas and then bounce Emrakul. He blood moons, I chalice on 1. Clock him w/ the 4/4 Knight and Priest while he hopes for Blue Mana (which he took himself off of). GG ez QP ez 30 fun points.
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Jun 12, 2016 01:13
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Can wizards please make a playable red planes-walker with a + ability other than loot?
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Jun 12, 2016 01:14
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eSporks posted:Can wizards please make a playable red planes-walker with a + ability other than loot? Legacy playable? Sounds dubious.
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Skyl3lazer posted:Legacy playable? Sounds dubious. Ok, I guess its not as bad I thought, but 1/4 red planeswalkers have a loot ability. eSporks fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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