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uninverted posted:4 Delver of Secrets Like other said, stormchaser is a bad replacement for Snapcaster. The counterspell heavy plan is kinda weak without snaps but a more aggressive route is playable without snaps. I threw this list together in 5 minutes so I'm sure it could use some optimizing but it can be built for under $150: http://deckbox.org/sets/1445750 Kinda going off memory from a UR delver prowess deck Patrick Chapin played a year ago, but his had an actual green splash to it. The only "odd" card is mishra's bauble because it's only other use is in suicide zoo, so I'm sure you could replace it with something cheap. It's great in this deck though, being zero mana and replacing itself. I'd replace it with more burn and a dismember if you don't want to spend the money on baubles. Also the manabase needs improving but I was trying to keep it under $150 for you. Another option you can make is bushwacker zoo without the goblin guides, but that deck wants a lot of fetches. Deck is super cheap without fetches and guides though.
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You're right, the aggressive version seems a lot better. I'll probably end up playing something like that. Thanks for the help everybody.
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Shivan Reef and Wandering Fumarole are two fairly cheap ways to improve the manabase on that budget UR Delver. Shivan Reef gives you consistent mana, but will probably cost you a few life points since the deck doesn't have much use for coloreless mana. Wandering Fumarole comes into play tapped, but can sometimes be an extra threat in the lategame.
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AgentSythe posted:the Lava Man is fine if you go the bauble/probe/lava spike/mutagenic growth plan and just try and hit people in the face. if you're on that plan you probably shave a few lands and don't mess around with things like Pia and Kirin I think in the current meta, white is a better splash than red. Yes, you dont get pyroblast, but swords/path and disenchant are way better right now than the direct damage spells. If you do switch it up, you need min 6 fetches, maybe 8. two basics of your splash color, and 1 dual to fetch with the off-color fetch.
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L0cke17 posted:I think in the current meta, white is a better splash than red. Yes, you dont get pyroblast, but swords/path and disenchant are way better right now than the direct damage spells. If you do switch it up, you need min 6 fetches, maybe 8. two basics of your splash color, and 1 dual to fetch with the off-color fetch. Everything you are saying makes sense, except that I cannot use Plains to cast a Hammer Mage
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AgentSythe posted:Everything you are saying makes sense, except that I cannot use Plains to cast a Hammer Mage Luckily in their infinite wisdom, and in anticipation of this exact problem, WotC has produced a magical card to circumvent this issue entirely.
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L0cke17 posted:Luckily in their infinite wisdom, and in anticipation of this exact problem, WotC has produced a magical card to circumvent this issue entirely. It's also worth noting that there is a Plains that can cast Hammer Mage.
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There are actually two different ones, though obviously one of them is a lot better than the other.
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Jabor posted:There are actually two different ones, though obviously one of them is a lot better than the other. There's three if a Blood Moon is out!
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L0cke17 posted:Luckily in their infinite wisdom, and in anticipation of this exact problem, WotC has produced a magical card to circumvent this issue entirely.
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little munchkin posted:Yea modern is actually (mostly) good now. There's a ton of diversity in decks. There's still the problem with some non-interactive decks and too much reliance on sideboard hate, but what are you going to do, play Standard? Hey thanks for that, I'll give it a try before disassembling for something else!
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Pretty hosed up that you would suggest putting a Plateau in your deck. what if some kid reads this? Johnny Five-Jaces fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Any of you nerds playing legacy at Montasy in NYC tonight? I'm doing my first sanctioned event with lands and I'm missing 7 of my sideboard cards so I'm running some... interesting sb options. So if you see a bald dude running some atypical lands poo poo feel free to say hi.
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The March Hare posted:I'm missing 7 of my sideboard cards so I'm running some... interesting sb options. go on
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AgentSythe posted:go on Let's just say I may be taking some extra turns courtesy of Rebecca Guay tonight.
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The March Hare posted:Any of you nerds playing legacy at Montasy in NYC tonight? I'm doing my first sanctioned event with lands and I'm missing 7 of my sideboard cards so I'm running some... interesting sb options. Just jam 4 tireless trackers and 3 Nissa worldwaker and call it a day
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The March Hare posted:Any of you nerds playing legacy at Montasy in NYC tonight? I'm doing my first sanctioned event with lands and I'm missing 7 of my sideboard cards so I'm running some... interesting sb options. I wish I could but I work until 7. I wonder if I can call in and sign up and just take a loss the first round so I can still play. I'm Legacy starved here because apparently every single shop starts everything so drat early 
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RoflcopterPilot posted:I wish I could but I work until 7. I wonder if I can call in and sign up and just take a loss the first round so I can still play. I'm Legacy starved here because apparently every single shop starts everything so drat early I think you can, they claim online registration is available on the event page but I have absolutely no idea what that actually means as I can't find any online form to register with v0v.
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Anyone play legacy or vintage in Chicago? I know mtg cardmarket is there and they run events, but didn't know if anyone else knew some other cool spots to check out
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You know what Modern needs more of? Ajani Vengeant.
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Star Man posted:You know what Modern needs more of? But instead, you could play the other, better 2RW planeswalker
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will food chain be any good with the 3-drop play-from-exile dude? What would a list drop to add that, maybe 2 misthollow and.....?
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Tim Raines IRL posted:will food chain be any good with the 3-drop play-from-exile dude? What would a list drop to add that, maybe 2 misthollow and.....? A. It will never be good. 2. Why would it drop the card it can use to cast Force of Will and still get value out of it?
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AgentSythe posted:Anyone play legacy or vintage in Chicago? I know mtg cardmarket is there and they run events, but didn't know if anyone else knew some other cool spots to check out Hotsauce Games in Westmont does legacy on monday nights, and Pastimes in Niles used to have monthly vintage and legacy but I don't see anything on their event calendar. But in Chicago proper I do not know.
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suicidesteve posted:A. It will never be good. Why would it need to drop it? Having more copies of Misthollow isn't necessarily bad, and it allows you to follow a Baleful Strix directly into it on turn 3, or curve a dork into strix into it turn 2.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why would it need to drop it? Idunno why it would drop it. Ask the person whose post I quoted.
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AgentSythe posted:Anyone play legacy or vintage in Chicago? I know mtg cardmarket is there and they run events, but didn't know if anyone else knew some other cool spots to check out Mtg cardmarket does legacy every Thursday and then there's dice dojo but I'm not sure if they do regular legacy events since cardmarket is closer to me and nice (dojo is too). Then as mentioned lots of options in Chicagoland but not much really in the city.
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Anyone playing MonoW Eldrazi in Legacy? Michael Majors played it at a GP and it looks good... http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=104145
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Seems like it needs containment priest main. Legacy is slow enough that the interaction between priest and displacer might be actually really good, rather than just a byproduct of maindeck oath hate like the vintage version has. And last I checked, sneak and show was still a thing, right?
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L0cke17 posted:Seems like it needs containment priest main. Legacy is slow enough that the interaction between priest and displacer might be actually really good, rather than just a byproduct of maindeck oath hate like the vintage version has. And last I checked, sneak and show was still a thing, right? I really like cutting the Endless One's or some number of Mimics for MD containment Priest.
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Somebody talk to me about B/W Death and Taxes. I play ANT almost exclusively right now and have always thought building a non-combo backup deck wouldn't be a bad idea. I've seen a few lists around where they basically bring in Scrublands, discard, and Dark Confidants and cut some of the extra fat on the traditional mono white version. Just trying to see the pros and cons with the black splash, beyond the obvious. Here's a list similar to what I've seen. Seems like the mana-base is worse and it's harder to grind with added life loss due to Bob and fetches? 3 Flooded Strand 3 Karakas 4 Rishadan Port 4 Scrubland 2 Plains 4 Wasteland 3 Windswept Heath 4 Dark Confidant 4 Flickerwisp 4 Mother of Runes 1 Phyrexian Revoker 2 Serra Avenger 4 Stoneforge Mystic 4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 4 Swords to Plowshares 3 Thoughtseize 1 Batterskull 1 Sword of Fire and Ice 1 Umezawa's Jitte 4 Æther Vial SB 1 Bitterblossom 1 Circle of Protection: Red 2 Containment Priest 1 Enlightened Tutor 2 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Orzhov Pontiff 1 Pithing Needle 2 Rest in Peace 1 Seal of Cleansing 1 Thoughtseize 1 Vindicate
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RoflcopterPilot posted:Somebody talk to me about B/W Death and Taxes. I play ANT almost exclusively right now and have always thought building a non-combo backup deck wouldn't be a bad idea. I've seen a few lists around where they basically bring in Scrublands, discard, and Dark Confidants and cut some of the extra fat on the traditional mono white version. Just trying to see the pros and cons with the black splash, beyond the obvious. Here's a list similar to what I've seen. Seems like the mana-base is worse and it's harder to grind with added life loss due to Bob and fetches?
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mcmagic posted:Anyone playing MonoW Eldrazi in Legacy? Why isn't anyone else playing this deck?
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Because the format is dead!! I think I sold my priests or I'd try it out in our eight mans. Looks fun.
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mcmagic posted:Why isn't anyone else playing this deck? They.....are? Like, Eldrazi decks get lumped by tcdecks and mtggoldfish and such but they're out there.
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Skyl3lazer posted:They.....are? Like, Eldrazi decks get lumped by tcdecks and mtggoldfish and such but they're out there. All I see are the colorless versions of the deck... This white version with Thalia just seems much better to me...
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I have some $ for a new legacy deck. do i go for the better deck and build infect, or should i put together the daretti stax list I've been playing on xmage? it's not great but it keeps your opponent from playing magic at all.
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I have some $ for a new legacy deck. do i go for the better deck and build infect, or should i put together the daretti stax list I've been playing on xmage? it's not great but it keeps your opponent from playing magic at all. Never not Daretti Stax. Its one of the most fun decks in the format that has the chance to be good.
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I have some $ for a new legacy deck. do i go for the better deck and build infect, or should i put together the daretti stax list I've been playing on xmage? it's not great but it keeps your opponent from playing magic at all. Depends entirely on what you want to be able to "cross over" into. Infect gets you forces, duals, fetches, Daretti stax gets you sol lands (which are obviously blowin' up right now) and possible other random stuff that has cross appeal like chalice and mox diamond (i am making assumptions about your list). Sol lands also turn into an actual good deck right now so you can't really go wrong also, anyone playing doomsday in legacy right now? i saw it top 8'd a super iq or whatever the sunday events are called but I'm not convinced it is better than ANT. still, seems sweet.
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AgentSythe posted:Depends entirely on what you want to be able to "cross over" into. Infect gets you forces, duals, fetches, Daretti stax gets you sol lands (which are obviously blowin' up right now) and possible other random stuff that has cross appeal like chalice and mox diamond (i am making assumptions about your list). Sol lands also turn into an actual good deck right now so you can't really go wrong The only real difference between Doomsday and ANT is when you cast Ad Nauseam or Tendrils in ANT you win the game, and when you cast Doomsday you tank for 40 seconds, realize you screwed up the pile, and scoop.
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