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Smashing Link: Jul 8, 2003; I'll keep chucking bombs at you til you fall off that ledge!; Grimey Drawer

How do you guys feel about Root Maze? I keep wanting to make a Root Maze based deck with Chancellor of the Tangle, Wall of Roots, Garruk Wildspeaker, and Plow Under. Ideally I would open with Chancellor mana into Wall of Roots into Maze. I know this isn't the brewing thread but I feel like Root Maze should be played more.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 19:09

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:09

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EvilBeard posted:

The Tabernacle is at the post office. Tomorrow, she is complete:

That must feel good. Lands is a worthy, honorable deck.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 03:45

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How critical are Glimpses for UBx Mill? I have a single one of them and am not in a hurry to pay for more. Have all the other cards though.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 20:03

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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

The Mighty Quinn fucks up those first two decks:

MAINDECK [60]
Planeswalker [1]
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Spell [36]
2 Council's Judgment
4 Enlightened Tutor
3 Helm of Obedience
1 Humility
2 Isochron Scepter
1 Moat
1 Oblivion Ring
4 Orim's Chant
4 Rest in Peace
1 Runed Halo
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Terminus
2 Unexpectedly Absent
1 Wrath of God
Land [23]
1 Karakas
2 Kor Haven
4 Scrying Sheets
16 Snow-Covered Plains

SIDEBOARD [15]
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Cursed Totem
2 Disenchant
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Peacekeeper
3 Pithing Needle
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Terminus
1 Wrath of God
1 Warmth

The idea is you play real hateful poo poo that stops the opponent from doing what they want to do and then you kill them with elspeth or, more commonly, RIP/Helm combo. You also have Scepter/Chant that effectively locks opponents out. Scepter also good with unexpectedly absent (cast it for zero when opponent cracks a fetch), though I would try an abeyance or two in that slot. The "engine" of the deck is snow lands and scrying sheets.

That's a beautiful deck.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 21:22

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L0cke17 posted:

Exactly. RIP Miracles is where to be right now

But in all seriousness, the decks that get better are mostly slow storm, lands, High Tide, elves, and RUG Delver at first glance. RIP/helm is awesome already and between that and blood moon nearly all those decks except high-tide are very soft to that particular combination of hate pieces. At least thats where I'm gonna be starting from for a post-top control list in legacy.

Also a moment of silence for the last Weissman style deck that was still tier 1 in any format.

High Tide player here. I appreciate your optimism!

# ¿ Apr 24, 2017 16:36

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Are there any good Enlightened Tutor-based control decks in the format?

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 17:34

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L0cke17 posted:

2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
5 Island
1 Mountain
2 Plains
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
1 Blood Moon
4 Brainstorm
2 Counterspell
2 Energy Field
2 Enlightened Tutor
4 Force of Will
2 Helm of Obedience
1 Humility
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Keranos, God of Storms
1 Moat
4 Ponder
2 Preordain
3 Rest in Peace
2 Supreme Verdict
4 Swords to Plowshares
Sideboard:

2 Containment Priest
1 Council's Judgment
1 Disenchant
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Flusterstorm
1 From the Ashes
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Kozilek's Return
3 Pyroblast
1 Pyroclasm
1 Spell Pierce

This is what I've been testing. It so far has done quite well in testing. It crushed death and taxes, jund, elves, bug, and eldrazi. I've only dropped games to jund, enchantress, and sneak and show. I have only played vs sneak and show twice, and won one and lost the other.

Sweet that looks right up my alley. Only missing JTMS.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 21:56

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L0cke17 posted:

For anyone interested in following the continuing evolution of the rip/helm list, it's gotten significantly cheaper as in testing moat isn't as critical as I thought (even though I want to play it more than anything).

https://deckbox.org/sets/1676719

Deckbox will be kept up to date, here's a snapshot of right now:

2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Mountain
2 Plains
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
1 Blood Moon
4 Brainstorm
1 Council's Judgment
1 Counterspell
1 Detention Sphere
2 Energy Field
2 Enlightened Tutor
4 Force of Will
1 Helm of Obedience
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Keranos, God of Storms
2 Monastery Mentor
4 Ponder
1 Porphyry Nodes
2 Preordain
1 Pyroclasm
3 Rest in Peace
1 Spell Snare
1 Supreme Verdict
4 Swords to Plowshares

Sideboard:

1 Engineered Explosives
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Flusterstorm
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Humility
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Kozilek's Return
1 Porphyry Nodes
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Wear // Tear

Current debate is the distribution of wraths, particularly in the board. EE is insane, but having more pyroclasms could help elves, by far the most difficult matchup that's a creature deck. Also it's got too many good cards vs elves in particular, but even with all of them it's only mostly solid. In particular we need data about this vs lands and storm if anyone else wants to play this or similar and give feedback I would be grateful.

Is there anything that is a reasonable substitute for JTMS in this list? Cryptic Command perhaps?

# ¿ May 4, 2017 03:28

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L0cke17 posted:

Jace is down to like 65 if you get a good deal, and you only need 2.

Ok I will report back if I go with the JTMS or I try some jank in its place.

# ¿ May 4, 2017 18:44

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L0cke17 posted:

So after some more testing, in particular against lists with decay, moat is back in the RIP/Helm list. https://deckbox.org/sets/1676719

Energy field was so bad vs bug that a non-decayable lock piece other than humility was needed to live.

Surprised that Moat would be good against Delver or is this a non-Delver BUG?

# ¿ May 5, 2017 19:36

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How well do people feel Rest In Peace is positioned right now?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 16:44

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L0cke17 posted:

The UWr Helm Combo list worked well, but it wasnt good enough to be worth playing in a GP. I tested several other piles for UWx control, and had some success with an AK build, but it was also probably not good enough. If I went I would be playing either a 4 color leovold pyromancer build, or a UWR PyroMentor build. Either way I would be playing at least 2-3 sudden shocks, theyre too good right now in the current meta vs basically every deck but eldrazi and lands.

This is where I am right now on mentor variants, but its questionable whether its worth cutting some number of spells and 1-2 lands for wastelands or not. I am also not sold on 0 spell snares, but I dont know what to cut to make room.

Right now it feels like pretty much every matchup except Lands is at least even if not a bit favorable.

That looks like a fun list. Sudden Shocks vs Infect, Affinity...what else am I missing?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 18:20

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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

Pretty hosed up that it blocks Goblin Lackey AND Mon's Goblins Raiders for free, imo

But not Hurloon Minotaur

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 02:45

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Tim Raines IRL posted:

I really don't care if I go 1-3 tonight as long as I get a few games where I make a shitton of bees.

The spirit of FNM.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 03:44

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Orb also seems to have some synergy with Bontu's Last Reckoning. Not sure if it's good enough but maybe.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 16:24

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Bontu's seems not good but who knows. I just wish it would find a home somewhere. My true favorite pairing of Mesmeric Orb is Tangle Wire :getin:

, but it's not Modern legal.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 20:45

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Anyone else excited we may see a new Legacy deck emerge tanks to Bloody Sun?

# ¿ Jan 6, 2018 03:44

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I am sitting on a $20k collection (full set of duals, four Cradles, 6 FoW is just the beginning) but my brother who I share the collection with won't let me break it up. You have a 2 year old daughter Bro!! Get a 529 account started already!

# ¿ May 10, 2018 17:12

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TVsVeryOwn posted:

legalize canadian highlander

Amen.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 14:21

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On my way to sell 3 Mox Diamonds today to pay for a new dog for my wife.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 17:30

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TheKingofSprings posted:

You�re naming the dog Moxie, right?

PleasantDirge posted:

High 5 for good form/priorities. Name the dog bling imo

I think the wife might actually go for the name Moxie...will report back in a month when the pup arrives. Bling not as likely to go over.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 22:39

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Lawnie posted:

This is Liliana. I didn�t even have to trick my wife into accepting the name!

Well done, appropriate color as well.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2022 15:29

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Introducing to the thread our new pup, Mox Diamond ("Moxie"). Drake (Gilded) was under discussion but my wife thought people would confuse him with the musician. And Hellfire just didn't seem to fit with his personality.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2022 20:42

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:09

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Can someone remind me the name of the card that gives 9 poison counters if you are playing with a Companion? I think it costs G or GG.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 23:41

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