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Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
world series of dogs

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Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Cannibrawl goon, I hope the hipster you eat will be ethically sourced and carbon neutral.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
we're all just sad dying monsters trying to make it through the day

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

good combo

I'm revulsed by babyfurs but I would not want to eat them
cannibal dude why would you want to eat these people, you'll only become weaker. You gotta eat the one tougher than you to gain strenght

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
also both those posts are disgusting to me. eugh

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

The babyfur one is worse cause I can least relate to hating spinless lefty poo poo even if I don't agree

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
yeah but that dude goes off in the opposite direction with his literal hate boner. sorry hunger boner

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

quote:

I'm a somewhat well-known poster. I met my girlfriend on Whisper, not on OkCupid like I tell everyone. It happened after I messaged her about a post asking if anyone had any experience being knotted. We both love that idea and are planning to eventually get a dog together. Nobody else knows. I pretend to like cats more, but both of us know just how much we want to get hosed silly by a big, wolf-like fluffy dog.

quote:

I'm a teacher and it never ceases to amaze me how hosed up education is in the US. Imagine going into a profession wanting to help people only to start hating everything about it in less than five years. There are a lot of people who go into education to do good, but there's also quite a few who are well meaning idiots and often cause more problems than they solve. It doesn't surprise me why there's so much burn out, it's impossible to do the job well without killing yourself in the process. Unless you're lucky enough to get into a decent district.

So many parents have no loving clue what to do with their kids and either enable the gently caress out of them into special little snowflakes or ignore poo poo they do because they don't want to be bothered. Yeah, they might care about their kids, but most of the time parents don't have the balls to actually parent. I truly wish it were possible for the state to take kids away from parents who can't handle their poo poo (more so than current systems).

In teaching classes, much of what I end up seeing usually is students not willing to work for any number of reasons; but by my estimate at least 50% of those are truly just lazy or being enabled by parents into learned helplessness. It is true that there are students who truly need extra help, but there's a lot who are just gaming the system. I'm sorry but missing at least 2 days a week all year it not a disability and no matter how bad your situation, going to school should be a priority. For gently caress's sake, there are kids in Africa who have it way worse off and yet walk +10 miles a day to get an education, you can get your lazy rear end off the sofa and put down the video game to learn something for a few hours a day. Having taught middle and high school, it becomes very obvious in a short span of time who is going to be working dead end jobs or end up in jail later on in life. The number of psychos I've had to deal with, having no access to resources or alternatives is criminal in my opinion. I've spent tons of money out of my pocket to try and do things for students and the public treats us like poo poo. Half the time I want to spit in their faces when they start bitching how I didn't give their special snowflake special treatment (read: enabling them to get a good grade for no work). I dunno...maybe turn in your work like everyone else and actually earn your grades?? It's unbelievable the bullshit that parents try to justify that is somehow my fault.

The hosed up part is that I do truly care about teaching, have a real love for my subject, and want students to be successful. But with the state of education, it's a complete nightmare to go to work most days. I get paid 50% of what I'd be paid in a better district. The only thing that keeps me in education are the few times I'm actually able to reach a student, but 90% of it I could walk away from in a heartbeat if I didn't need some kind of job. I hate that I can't imagine doing anything else, yet hate it so much.

Radical and BADical!
Jun 27, 2010

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

H.H posted:


crazy right winger


thank you for demonstrating to the world in the most eloquent way possible the direct link between right wing extremism and being a complete and utter pile of human excrement. i suggest you cut your own dick off and and try to swallow it whole before you go on a shooting spree

wyntyr
Mar 27, 2006
Teacher goon (since this is the only possibly real one): yeah, welcome to the club. Every single teacher I know is either an alcoholic, depressed, or both. Just remember it's just a job, not "who you are". The people who win teacher of the year and all that are either sleeping with the right people or deeply weird or both.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Yeah that teacher one is pretty solid.

I recommend against abusing animals. Your souls will surely be damaged.

curlingiron
Dec 15, 2006

b l o o p

As a fellow teacher, I'm really sorry you've had such a hard time. If you're unhappy where you are, though, I'd recommend trying to get a position somewhere else. I think it's important that you find a school that you feel glad to be at; I almost accepted a position at a different school than the one I'm currently at, but I started having nightmares about it, and I'm so, so grateful that I trusted my instincts. I'm in an LDR right now, and I've basically refused to move because I lucked into a job at an amazing school with a supportive administration and colleagues, and I'm terrified of rolling the dice again in a new school.

Good, supportive environments do exist, and what works for one person might not work for everyone, so don't be afraid to put feelers out if where you are is making you miserable. Good luck!

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Really interested in the teaching situation.

Are the problems inherent in the structure of public education, or does it have more to do with individual parents? It's sad to think you can see a child's destiny from 7th grade on.

What would make it better? As someone who wants to be a parent, what could I do to foster a child who doesn't break his or her teacher's heart every day?

Also, teachers don't get paid nearly enough. Everyone talks about getting summers off as some huge perk, but honestly, that's time they don't pay you for, right? So, unpaid days off isn't really a great perk, in my opinion.

Two Free Toppings
Jul 1, 2007

SUCK
THE
SHIT
OUT
OF
MY
OWN
ASSHOLE
Man I teach third grade and that letter could be from literally any teacher I know including myself. Ive known teachers with massive drug and alcohol habits they took up to try to keep themselves from getting so depressed they just gave up on the whole thing. Like the dude said - Being a teacher is pretty poo poo about 90% of the time but there are just enough good moments where you can actually make a difference that it almost makes it occasionally worth it.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

A Strange Aeon posted:

Really interested in the teaching situation.

Are the problems inherent in the structure of public education, or does it have more to do with individual parents? It's sad to think you can see a child's destiny from 7th grade on.

What would make it better? As someone who wants to be a parent, what could I do to foster a child who doesn't break his or her teacher's heart every day?

Also, teachers don't get paid nearly enough. Everyone talks about getting summers off as some huge perk, but honestly, that's time they don't pay you for, right? So, unpaid days off isn't really a great perk, in my opinion.

IANAT but if the situation is anything like Germany, the teachers I know all tell me the same thing: Some kids want to learn but most kids can't sit still anymore, perform poo poo, are constantly on their mobile phones, hav eno respect and when they break any rules and are expelled (e.g. one example was for attacking other students) and the parents get a letter, instead of telling their kid of, they storm into school and threaten to sue. This has gone so far that headmasters do not back teachers anymore when they send a "blue letter" re misbehaviour to parents, but instead tell them "it can't be that bad, is it really worth that letter?".

Apparently parents think a) any fault in their kids performance is the teachers fault, b) my kid doesn't misbehave, they are an angel and c) you are the school, you are solely responsible to educate my kid and teach it values etc.
And politicians make it worse by constantly trumpeting "more money for schools, schools underperform". Nah they don't, kids underperform, but nowadays nobody teaches their kids the basics of discipline and respect towards a teacher

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
My wife did early childhood teaching for a couple of years and on at least two occaisions parents demanded her resignation because they thought her class was too unruly. She reckons most parents dont want to discipline their own kids so they expect the school to do it, which means they can also blame the school for all the kids problems.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
Could you possibly number them or something so I don't have to guess which one someone is raging about? Sometimes it's obvious but at least in the past thread it could have been about any of them when it's just a generic "gently caress that guy". It seemed to work OK in the e/n version.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

RE weird social-Darwinist right-winger guy: I was one of those "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" people ten years ago, and I think something very much approaching the opposite is true now. And I don't think I even changed that much, I think the state of the issues did.

Like, I don't think we should re-outlaw gay marriage or care what bathroom people use or anything like that, and I'm in favor of police reform and gun control etc, it's just that having gone to a fancy-rear end college I know some people that qualify themselves as leftists, and the kind of poo poo they talk about on social media these days makes me roll my loving eyes super loving hard. And yet at the same time, the rich control this country to an unprecedented extent, have had the poo poo cut out of their taxes and hire expensive accountants to avoid what little is left, and need to be brought to loving heel. The middle class is being starved out of existence, student debt is out of control, and the only places in the country where there are still jobs have an exorbitant cost of living. Is it still the socialist party of America's stance that identity politics are a bourgeois distraction? Because honestly if we're all arguing about lady ghostbusters and fat fashion models while the rich are quietly buying up both viable political parties I think they might be on to something.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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So both my parents were teachers, my sister is a teacher, and a bunch of my friends are teachers. Coming from this view point I can tell you that teachers have always said that the kids they get are garbage and don't want to learn no matter what generation we're talking about. My parents said it about my generation and now my friends and sister are saying it about the new genration. I've noticed that teachers only really remember either exemplary kids or total thriving poo poo bags as well. So they're gonna get more poo poo bags than amazing kids just because that's the way the world works and won't really remember the other 80% of kids that just did their work semi-well and moved out of their classes.

I'll agree that they don't get paid as well as they should, and the poo poo they have to see would break most people's hearts (my dad watched a kid become more and more depressed and abused until he committed suicide and the school system as well as my dad tried to do everything they could to get him away from that environment, but to no avail).

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

At least that teacher seemed to blame parents rather than the kids themselves :shrug:

My fiancee is a school counselor and hasn't succumbed to cynicism RE children yet, even though she spends half her time dealing with Extreme Problem Children and the other half disentangling middle-school girl drama. Granted she's only been at it a couple years.

psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010

=9.9=
MEOW
BITCHES

I taught high school in the city of St Louis for a year + (I quit after coming back year 2 and promises that were made had not been kept). It was remarkably hellish mainly due to the administration and other "adults," not my kids.

People who have not had this experience have no idea what the gently caress is going on in urban "education" in this country. It's a loving joke and it's loving depressing. To say that it's unfair is a huge understatement.

Being depressed about performing a job like that is a logical outcome. I got to a very, very bad place during that time in my life. I was also 25 years old and had no training, but they are so desperate for science and math teachers that they didn't care.

It's been over 10 years and I'm still trying to deal with what a miserable experience it was and the guilt of letting down my students.

Edit: if I'm going to confess here goes: that first year after a few months I started showing up late and calling in sick all the time. The last 3 weeks of school I straight up didn't show up. Wanna talk about guilt? Yeah.

psychokitty fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 8, 2016

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

abigserve posted:

She reckons most parents dont want to discipline their own kids so they expect the school to do it, which means they can also blame the school for all the kids problems.

The problem with kids is the same like with dogs. On their own at home they might be just fine and calm. When you put two together, they start getting rowdy. 20-30 of them and there's no way you're going to get them all to calm down just by shouting at them or expecting them to behave.

But parents are also really poo poo, so it's a combo of the two.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Haier posted:

The problem with kids is the same like with dogs. On their own at home they might be just fine and calm. When you put two together, they start getting rowdy. 20-30 of them and there's no way you're going to get them all to calm down just by shouting at them or expecting them to behave.

But parents are also really poo poo, so it's a combo of the two.

Remember, please spay or neuter your kids. Maybe we should take after Childhood's End and send all our kids off to an island to be raised by aliens and not allow any adult contact with them until they evolve into energy and get meshed into the galactic hivemind/existence. Be easier than trying to fix the US educational system at least.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Solice Kirsk posted:

Remember, please spay or neuter your kids. Maybe we should take after Childhood's End and send all our kids off to an island to be raised by aliens and not allow any adult contact with them until they evolve into energy and get meshed into the galactic hivemind/existence. Be easier than trying to fix the US educational system at least.

I'm for it

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Everything I know about American schools I learnt from TV. Is it true that you talk about prom all year and everyone's a quarterback and lessons go for two minutes then the bell rings and everyone gets up while the teacher shouts out "Don't forget to read chapter three tonight!"?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Hedrigall posted:

Everything I know about American schools I learnt from TV. Is it true that you talk about prom all year and everyone's a quarterback and lessons go for two minutes then the bell rings and everyone gets up while the teacher shouts out "Don't forget to read chapter three tonight!"?

I graduated over 25 years ago but to answer your questions
1) only when it is a few months away. Sr. Prom was the biggest because that's a huge party. Even the people not dating anyone would pair off for platonic date. You high level nerds or druggies wouldn't go.
2) our school sucked, so no and we were also a basketball state.
3) sometimes. The closer you get to graduation, the less the teachers give a gently caress. I had quite a few that would teach a lesson for 20 minutes and then just let you work on your own. Most didn't care if you slept or doodled, as long as you were quiet.

Bonzo fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jul 9, 2016

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

Bonzo posted:

I graduated over 25 years ago but to answer your questions
1) only when it is a few months away. Sr. Prom was the biggest because that's a huge party. Even the people not dating anyone would pair off for platonic date. You high level nerds or druggies wouldn't go.
2) our school sucked, so no and we were also a basketball state.
3) sometimes. The closer you get to graduation, the less the teachers give a gently caress. I had quite a few that would teach a lesson for 20 minutes and then just let you work on your own. Most didn't care if you slept or doodled, as long as you were quiet.

But did you have to read chapter three tonight???

curlingiron
Dec 15, 2006

b l o o p

I dunno, it's def possible to teach without being an alcoholic or depressed (I'm neither, but I may just be a freak of nature), but it's gotta be the right circumstances, I think. My admins have always backed me up on stuff, which I've heard is sadly unusual. I also have a super high tollerance for student bullshit, and I think teenagers are hilarious. My students aren't worse than I was, they're just different, and I don't think that's bad.

I don't think that anyone should do the job unless they love it; not all the time, certainly, but at the end of the day if someone consistently hates it I really hope that they're able to find something they like more because everyone deserves that (and also the kids will eat them alive). Who knows, maybe I'll feel different in 20 years (I'm only on year 5, so I guess I still have time to be a burnout statistic), but I loving love what I do, and I want to keep doing it as long as I can.

A Strange Aeon posted:

Everyone talks about getting summers off as some huge perk, but honestly, that's time they don't pay you for, right? So, unpaid days off isn't really a great perk, in my opinion.

FYI, we do get paid during the summer, but it's for work we already did; technically the state holds back some of our pay so we get paid roughly the same amount every month, extending it through summer.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

My father was a teacher.

He said he would disinherit me if I became a teacher.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS

curlingiron posted:

I dunno, it's def possible to teach without being an alcoholic or depressed (I'm neither, but I may just be a freak of nature), but it's gotta be the right circumstances, I think. My admins have always backed me up on stuff, which I've heard is sadly unusual. I also have a super high tollerance for student bullshit, and I think teenagers are hilarious. My students aren't worse than I was, they're just different, and I don't think that's bad.

I don't think that anyone should do the job unless they love it; not all the time, certainly, but at the end of the day if someone consistently hates it I really hope that they're able to find something they like more because everyone deserves that (and also the kids will eat them alive). Who knows, maybe I'll feel different in 20 years (I'm only on year 5, so I guess I still have time to be a burnout statistic), but I loving love what I do, and I want to keep doing it as long as I can.


FYI, we do get paid during the summer, but it's for work we already did; technically the state holds back some of our pay so we get paid roughly the same amount every month, extending it through summer.

So you're not being paid in the summer, you're just giving the state a zero percent interest loan on your wages ten months a year.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
Confession Time.

I think I may be a mutant. Almost every single day of my life, I've had a to excrete a viscous brown paste from a sphincter on my body. It's a noxious concoction, of varying consistencies and amounts. It's horrible. I'm like something out of John Carpenters The Thing. I've never known who to talk to about this issue, I may be the only human that has ever had this mutation.

*sobs*

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

H.H posted:

I broke up with my girlfriend after months of arguing over one thing that seems petty - tipping.

I believe in always tipping at least 15% unless service is exceptionally bad, and will tip as much as I feel like. She believed 15% was only for completely perfect above average service.

Every time we went out to eat we would argue over this. I bought the food and believed the tip was my right. She would always grab some of the money I left and discretely put it in her purse.

The final breakup happened after an excellent meal at a BBQ place. The waiter was awesome - got us refills before we had to ask, explained things on the menu to the both of us, and even let my girlfriend try the different types of BBQ sauce to see what she liked most. At the end the bill came and I planned to tip really generously.

My girlfriend goes "That guy sucked, he kept hovering over us way too much" and wanted to leave just 2 bucks (on a 70 dollar bill). I calmly explained that he was just helping us out and deserved a good tip, and left him 30 dollars. As we got up to leave she tried to grab the 20. I caught her, told her to put it back, and we left in silence.

On the ride home she didn't say a word. At home she went right up to bed and locked the door behind her. I slept on the couch. The next day I told her why I felt the way I did (grew up poor, worked a lot of jobs like that, barely made ends meet and struggled to make it through school and better myself). She just laughed in my face.

what a loving bitch. hope she get robbed

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn
I tried getting my gf to leave me, I've been abusing substances, mostly alcohol, I think I'm gonna be the next person attached to this site that dies. I've been self harming.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Automatic Slim posted:

My father was a teacher.

He said he would disinherit me if I became a teacher.

empty threat. since he was a teacher there won't be anything for you to inherit, except alcoholism and depression.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

ArmZ posted:

empty threat. since he was a teacher there won't be anything for you to inherit, except alcoholism and depression.

you're forgetting the modern miracle of benzo addiction

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

ArmZ posted:

empty threat. since he was a teacher there won't be anything for you to inherit, except alcoholism and depression.

Not true. Apparently death is not an excuse to stop repaying student loans.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn
I'm gonna kill myself, screw this guy.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

Golem II posted:

I'm gonna kill myself, screw this guy.

No one cares, good.

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Golem II posted:

No one cares, good.

We care call 8002738255 to get help take to E/N next time feel better yet I hope so good

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H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

quote:

If it weren't for CJacobs and his friend Fae I would not have amassed a collection of toys. By toys I mean anthropomorphic dildos. I'm not even joking. So this is probably the closest way to say thanks, your dong chat about where to buy dargon dildos is pretty helpful.

quote:

Education chat reminded me I should share this for the gently caress of it.

I was homeschooled, and I guess homeschooling is alright. Except if you're one of the few who fell through the cracks, like me.

Here's some poo poo that went on til I was 18.
Pulled from public school from 2nd grade
Rarely worked for more than three or four hours a day, every day.
You know all those 'classic novels' like moby dick or scarlet letter? Yeah, never read them.
I had my own laptop for some reason--though no internet [thankfully??]--so I'd watch a lot of movies instead of doing school type poo poo.
Never wrote an essay. At all. Ever. Kind of hosed when I got to community college and was faced with 'wtf is double spacing? How do use microsoft word?'
A Beka books. Not actually informational, but that didn't stop my mom from using them.
We did bible studies more than science, art, etc. She'd quiz me on poo poo that happened in the bible, like giving mini paper exams.
Never did homework. Or turned in homework. When I did I'd just do unruly scrawl in between legit words and she'd just accept it.
Homework consisted of filling out biblical quizes, copying answers from the ends of chapters from 'school books'. [Again, never wrote an essay or read novels, did science experiements, etc. or had to do critical thinking.]
Had no friends. Never was signed up for extra curricular poo poo like sports teams, scout camp, etc. So I rarely interacted with anyone not a family member.
Never learned math, by the way. Kind of surprised and hosed when college classes expected you to know poo poo like multiplication.
My own aunt called me 'socially inept' which I thought was cruel, but honestly she was right. I've gotten better, I swear. You can't fault me for not know social poo poo when I've been isolated as gently caress.
I graduated myself from 'high school'. Like, from about 17-18 yo I did no homework, schoolbook reading and the like so why the gently caress not.

Oh, and unrelated to the homeschooling thing: she'd phsyically drag me across the house [from living room, through the hallway, to the backyard door and back] because... reasons? I guess I was misbehaving, can't remember. I've also been beaten with an extension cord, tv remote, and wooden spatula, among other things. She's also thrown things at me, like heavy pots, costco sized bottle of ketchup, etc. And screamed a lot.


My older sister was homeschooled too, with p much the same experience. Today she's a self declared asexual with zero friends, a room full of sailor moon collectibles, dildos, and a fear of men [bc tumblr taught her that among other die cis scum thinking and poo poo]. Goons told me she was most likely raped, but that's kind of impossible when a) she's rarely been without me or my mother's company, and b) never goes outside anyways. [Dad is kind of out of the picture so. And it's doubtful my mom's a pedo, just really hosed up in other ways.]

tl;dr christian homeschooler mother hosed up my education and attempted to softcore 'genie the feral child' her own offspring. It's been a long road to unfuck myself. I contemplate suicide a lot in the meantime.

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