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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Bloody posted:

*crackle crackle* HAS JOINED THE CALL


*wind* sorry what slide are we on???

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
cause they're good. if you need a conference phone and you're a small/med business you just buy a $700 polycom kit and ur done. if ur a large company you buy a huge rear end polycom kit and have them set it up cause that's peanuts to you.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Mad Wack posted:

at my job every conference room is owned by a department and assigned to the admin of that apt - this leads to you booking a room and getting a decline plus form email from the admin. there is no structure across the company for how these rooms are booked and each admin comes up with their own process so depending on what room you try to get you may just have a short im convo or you may be logging into lotus notes to submit a form to a database or even doing a transaction or two in sap. its really cool and good because every dept has way less rooms then they need so you get tribal warfare over rooms and hidden conference rooms.

my mind was blown when i went into finance and was introduced to the "cave" a conf room that looks like a group of cubes but the walls have been removed from the inside so people can meet. then after befriending the us controller i learned that the cave had a hidden cave that was actually a full conference room marked as a mother's room hidden in the back of the cave. also another group successfully lobbied to move the company convenience store to the cafeteria so they could turn it into a meeting room but they kept the keys with their admin so nobody could steal it. my dept (it, what a shocker) consolidated our data center and ops room into one room so the old noc became a hidden conference room that you need retina scanner access to get to and its forbidden to bring anyone outside the dept to it


so yeah people get weird about conference rooms and meeting titles


oh forgot one other thing, all our official conf rooms have those little touchscreens where you can book the room but one day global changed the corp directory backend without consulting the vendor so now for four months they just say "error: unreachable host" and flash between red and green

i don't really pay too much attention to any of this as i am currently consumed in the coffee room wars

lmao

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

maniacdevnull posted:

Like in Silicon Valley when people got mad about how they had so many white extras in the background for the techcrunch disrupt episode when they actually shot footage from the real thing

its really the best show

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

ahmeni posted:

dumpster keurig

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

chmods please posted:

so they claim it integrates with skype 4 biz. this is what actually happens:

1) someone starts a new one-on-one conversation in skype 4 biz
2) teams gets it first, and shows a new conversation notification in the lower right corner of the screen
3) s4b gets it a quarter second later and shows a new conversation request window in the lower right side of the screen, covering the one from teams
3a) if you click "accept" in s4b, it opens the conversation, and teams has no record of it existing
3b) if you click "reply" in teams, it opens the conversation, and s4b never sees it. however, it will show up on your skype 4 biz mobile app, and say that the conversation has been connected elsewhere

microsoft

don't run skype 4 b and teams at the same time. they are both skype 4 b clients

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
threaded chat is retarded and its gonna take a while for them to pull it out.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
teams is way way better than skype 4 b so theres no reason to be using skype 4 b at all.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

gooby pls posted:

unified messaging/single inbox is cool and good but lol at enterprise voicemail as a whole

the only way to do enterprise voicemail is send a .wav or .mp3 of the VM to your email and never store it on the phone switch ever.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
not you. skype for b client is total trash. install teams.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Bloody posted:

a locally-hosted slack-like that i could deploy with no oversight from it would have a glimmer of hope but that's still prob not gonna happen

go to https://teams.microsoft.com and login w/ ur 365 creds. if it works it means someone has already enabled teams so you can download the client and use it instead of skype. you can still skype with people but the client is less terrible.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol sucks 2 be u

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
you could install skype preview (for skype) which is a better chat client than normal skype for skype or skype for b

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
skype for b doesn't do persistent chat.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BiohazrD posted:

Yeah this is why nobody uses Box since Microsoft added onedrive for business to o365


































Lol

I don't know anyone who uses box but I know a bunch of people who use one drive and lol @ the idea that a company is gonna pay for whatever box is when onedrive comes w/ their 365 account

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

uncurable mlady posted:

hm. we don't have it enabled so i can't try it out.

tbh i think that's a mark against it - no way to try it out unless you have o365 setup already


twitch.tv but for business

teams runs on top of 365 so its a requirement. time 2 replace ur old on premise stuff w/ 365, imo

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
I'm gonna move everyone 2 teams some time early next year. good bye 2 skype 4 b.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BiohazrD posted:

you also can't have groups on onedrive for business

like I can't create a folder and set it up to be shared to 3-4 people. it's hilariously bad

yeah you can

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

mishaq posted:

ive worked with at least 3 vendors in the past year that all use box so when they shared folders with me it integrated with my company box account

box is much better than one drive, but that's not saying much

onedrive is pretty needs suiting for us so far. we share stuff w/ external people all the time.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
setting up a secure transport between you and an unknown party is literally impossible so faxing provides a workaround.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

mishaq posted:

shagger

was

:wrong:

nope. theres no way to securely send anything to anyone without first going through some kind of onboarding process. that's why we still use faxes.

vodkat posted:

faxing on the other hand is totally secure :nsa:

of course not but if you were following the conversation you'd understand its allowed for things like PHI under HIPAA.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

maniacdevnull posted:

Lol if ur calls don't also feature a screaming child in the foreground.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Phobeste posted:

my company keeps putting in nice wireless presentation systems like wepresent and now Apple tvs in all the conference rooms but they've never quite figured out all the way that nobody who comes in to do a presentation can use them because they're all field sales guys for spring companies who have locked down windows laptops. so every time there's a whole song and dance about unplugging poo poo trying to find a cable. every time

get one of these things: https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/adapters/wireless-display-adapter-2/p3q-00001

it works gr8

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BiohazrD posted:

lol we have these, they drop out when if there's a wireless keyboard/mouse too close (assuming if they connect at all which is a crapshoot)

oh and they also require you use a microsoft surface and LOL

idk works fine for me. you also can use it w/ anything running windows 10 w/ a wifi

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
not anymore!!

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

we switched to 365 a while back. there are a lot of things I miss from notes tho.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

KoRMaK posted:

In teams?? Microsoft Teams has a giphy extension?

you have to enable it in the teams settings on the 365 admin portal. also you should be able to drag or paste in images if you want.

I haven't had lag issues during chat in teams, but sometimes switching chats is slow.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Mahatma Goonsay posted:

we are going from webex to Zoom. it can't be worse right?

zoom is worse than webex. GoToMeeting is the only one that works reliably.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
GoToMeeting is the only inter-business meeting system that i'd use these days.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

shitface posted:

Do i still need both running then?

only if you want to talk to people still on skype 4 b

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Sniep posted:

why would you want that

like literally what benefit would that offer vs. just having normal rear end accounts

lol have you never worked at a company?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

shitface posted:

how is it possible to gently caress this up so badly? this surely can't be coming from the office team, the last and only team of any competence whatsoever at microsoft

its kind of an afterthought cause the goal is to move everyone off of skype entirely and on to teams. the current teams/s4b integration is really only for people using teams in its current beta form. once teams is officially released I'm gonna wipe out skype 4 b so hard.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Mad Wack posted:

this is a good question, our controlling systems are spread over 130 legal entities and nobody has a clear picture of where money is spent or on what - as a result i use a lot of consultants and typically people have so much trouble spending money i can usually hoover up their budget at the end of the year because they are at 10-20% of forecasted spend for the year in december

most of our systems are maintained/circumvented by an absolute army of administrative assistants

i love my giant clusterfuck company

if you need help spending that money give me a yell

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
SSO for authentication is easy as hell. Its authorization that's a bitch.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
I only know of one standard for authorization policy but it was doa, authorization is really a pain in the rear end and I wish someone else would fix it for me so I don't have to do it.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

socialist group moved from slack to an open source replacement. many MANY reasons for this change were provided in an FAQ. none of my comrades read the FAQ and all started bike shedding the exact same questions.

12 hours after we switched, the new server fell over and no-one could get on so everyone went back to the slack to bitch

capitalism is required for functional products.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yep

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

mishaq posted:

the only rockets currently capable of flying humans into space are soviet

only because we pay them to. and we only need to pay them to because our incompetent government couldn't build working rockets once they let politicians start setting production goals.

meanwhile our capitalist system has created much cheaper launch systems that will be filling the gap our failed government systems could not.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the monopoly is enforced by politicians. there would have been no monopoly without the government's involvement

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
space launch wasn't a natural monopoly though, it was litterrally the law that only the government was allowed to launch rockets. as those restrictions let up, private space launch companies started creating their own rockets designed for competing in the market to launch stuff into space rather than emulating government rockets which were designed to meet political production goals, with space launch being a tertiary concern.

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