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PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

GRANNYS PEACH TEA posted:

How about Offspring? Is there like a year you're not allowed to call them punk anymore or they never were or what? Asking genuinely here.

I guess Offspring fans will probably say that Smash was their last punk album? I had that one as a kid and I liked it too, but I don't see it as a punk album now. It's really up to you how you define it though, man. some people listen to anti flag and think it's punk, or afi or blink 182 or even stuff like Converge which I wouldn't call "punk" either. and then there are the million different sub-sub-sub genres.

at the end of the day, even though i'm not the op, imo this is a non-denominational punk thread and you can post anything you think is punk (or punk-ish.)
nobody should be a dick about what is and isn't punk, it's loving stupid and it also turns lots of people away from getting in to bands on the faster/more raw end of the spectrum.

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PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mcUVn1aX7U

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYanAa6M-yg

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvgjHFJ9p38

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

GRANNYS PEACH TEA posted:

How about Offspring? Is there like a year you're not allowed to call them punk anymore or they never were or what? Asking genuinely here.

it's not punk unless someone has vomited on you or in your vicinity while listening

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfXVI1X9YM4

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

PinkoBastard posted:

some people listen to anti flag and think it's punk, or afi or blink 182 or even stuff like Converge which I wouldn't call "punk" either.
i called Anti-Flag punk in the GBSENMT once and someone called me out on that and i was really confused since i always assumed they were punk

likewise i always considered (early) AFI punk and Blink-182 pop punk (Converge is definitely metalcore, though)

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

symbolic posted:

i called Anti-Flag punk in the GBSENMT once and someone called me out on that and i was really confused since i always assumed they were punk

likewise i always considered (early) AFI punk and Blink-182 pop punk (Converge is definitely metalcore, though)

anti-flag isn't punk sry

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

SmokaDustbowl posted:

it's not punk unless someone has vomited on you or in your vicinity while listening

Nice call on the GBH, I think that City Baby Attacked by Rats still rips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyqa--wZl7M

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

symbolic posted:

i called Anti-Flag punk in the GBSENMT once and someone called me out on that and i was really confused since i always assumed they were punk

likewise i always considered (early) AFI punk and Blink-182 pop punk (Converge is definitely metalcore, though)

sorry I was a little harsh here's a good track to listen to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sieh9aokS0

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

SmokaDustbowl posted:

anti-flag isn't punk sry
yes i already got told this and quite frankly i don't really care what genre they are, i still like them

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

SmokaDustbowl posted:

sorry I was a little harsh here's a good track to listen to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sieh9aokS0
Crass is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0tCH8--vLM

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

symbolic posted:

i called Anti-Flag punk in the GBSENMT once and someone called me out on that and i was really confused since i always assumed they were punk

likewise i always considered (early) AFI punk and Blink-182 pop punk (Converge is definitely metalcore, though)

what really confuses me is when people recommend a hardcore band and they don't mean hardcore like Negative Approach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weGJ1kfUkkA

or Pure Disgust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4IxypcPDzA

or minor threat, bad brains, etc etc etc

they mean the sort of metalcore stuff where all the band names are sentence fragments?

PinkoBastard fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Sep 9, 2016

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

symbolic posted:

Crass is good

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

PinkoBastard posted:

what really confuses me is when people recommend a hardcore band and they don't mean hardcore like Negative Approach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TCdTs7NqdQ

or Pure Disgust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4IxypcPDzA

or minor threat, bad brains, etc etc etc

they mean the sort of metalcore stuff where all the band names are sentence fragments?
like Pierce the Veil and poo poo?

i can kind of understand the confusion since bands like that get lumped into the post-hardcore genre, but i'll be damned if this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJALJFcnEiQ

sounds remotely like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qhHmPvhiHI

i like Collide with the Sky :smith:

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

PinkoBastard posted:

they mean the sort of metalcore stuff where all the band names are sentence fragments?

it's good to listen to some hardcore stuff sometimes because it's mostly not political, but it's lovely when all people now are like anti-flag and like henry rollins and poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSuMixiBX4

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--tEdHB9KtU

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

symbolic posted:

like Pierce the Veil and poo poo?

Yeah that sort of thing, Bullet for My Valentine, As I Lay Dying, etc. i'm admittedly ignorant about that stuff, I find a lot of it is that kinda chugga-chugga breakdown-heavy kind of thing? I'm cool with it being popular, it's just weird that people call it "hardcore" when hardcore is already such an established sound.

SmokaDustbowl posted:

it's good to listen to some hardcore stuff sometimes because it's mostly not political, but it's lovely when all people now are like anti-flag and like henry rollins and poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSuMixiBX4

You mean how henry rollins has that kind of weird cult of personality?

Plastic Surgery Disasters is probably the best DK album overall. i also really like this song from Fresh Fruit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrX-I4JO9eo

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

PinkoBastard posted:

Yeah that sort of thing, Bullet for My Valentine, As I Lay Dying, etc. i'm admittedly ignorant about that stuff, I find a lot of it is that kinda chugga-chugga breakdown-heavy kind of thing? I'm cool with it being popular, it's just weird that people call it "hardcore" when hardcore is already such an established sound.
i'm going to be "that guy" and say that i'm fairly certain BFMV is mostly a weird mix of thrash, metalcore, and hard rock

like, poo poo's sake, i don't know how to classify this, but it's definitely not hardcore. i do like BFMV, though. Venom was a great record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKK5L0IYheQ

also As I Lay Dying is deathcore, I think? i've only ever heard one song of theirs, and it sucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brd0FJhjpNU

now that i polluted the thread with As I Lay Dying, have some actual hardcore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGcrR0iL_UY

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Spergin' over the exact definitions of micro-genres is extremely punk.

Still haven't heard anything that tops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcKiC2yB0s

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Spergin' over the exact definitions of micro-genres is extremely punk.

Still haven't heard anything that tops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcKiC2yB0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Mi995ggFU

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
Don't remember if i posted this before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP8UrnahsJM

The Damned were loving great though

PinkoBastard fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Sep 9, 2016

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

The Damned are good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m2JyiggwAU

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWeli4EZmLc

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UChyqylkQdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqsZFXXbZYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KwcsLhJkBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jISvKiGKRKk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXPLr7l1ftY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqXPyPw9iHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUf4t99Oy8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPGdyxxuyUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=temABKKRZcA

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I'd just like to mention that anyone who is droning on about what is or isn't punk is either too young or too dumb to have actually seen any band that matters. Thanks for your time you loving posers.

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I'd just like to mention that anyone who is droning on about what is or isn't punk is either too young or too dumb to have actually seen any band that matters. Thanks for your time you loving posers.

I think we already covered that. Do you like punk? Post stuff for us to rage to !!!

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

PinkoBastard posted:

I think we already covered that. Do you like punk? Post stuff for us to rage to !!!

Sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ydB8fG8Csg

Bad Titty Puker
Nov 3, 2007
Soiled Meat
here's some Dutch punk rock circa 1977-78:

Ivy Green s/t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkfLs9HmYew

Scotland

Rezillos - Can't Stand the Rezillos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akS16qwHOWo

Ireland

The Undertones s/t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQakCeVa48M

some Britpunk singles from the same era:

Vibrators - Feel All Right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqqBY7oEqIM

The Boys - Brickfield Nights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9e4V3zYLUg

The Tea Set - Tri X Pan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99rkRjHzHKc

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Look, I want to help you guys out.

Nobody clicks on undescribed links. How you got this far without knowing that is beyond me; but put some effort in.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Look, I want to help you guys out.

Nobody clicks on undescribed links. How you got this far without knowing that is beyond me; but put some effort in.

I agree that undescribed links are terrible, but most of the links (and all of the links on this page) are showing up as labeled video windows. If you're only seeing links, you ought to go to "Edit Options>Thread View Options>Show video embedded in posts" and change it to Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZEMaX4WW7E

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

Gutter Phoenix posted:

I agree that undescribed links are terrible, but most of the links (and all of the links on this page) are showing up as labeled video windows. If you're only seeing links, you ought to go to "Edit Options>Thread View Options>Show video embedded in posts" and change it to Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZEMaX4WW7E

He's just being a dick.
In any case there are only so many variations on "raw blistering d beat" or "raw fast punk" or "power violence apocalypse" or whatever the gently caress. Like you said, the video previews are enough for me.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIv8Av3x2oQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6aZynalcvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoRsQL1ocY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxeEaXB8H1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDV1mx1Rwko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89HUW3DIEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lGgeXdvYF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhroRCiHESs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAdaqPaxaik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc3frN1BvpI

Bad Titty Puker
Nov 3, 2007
Soiled Meat
Post-punk group when they were more punk than post:
Swell Maps - Read About Seymour (1977) - English group that started out in the early seventies and gelled in '77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxDoC_1DPrg

Boston art-punk band with a catchy single:
The Girls - Jeffrey I Hear You (1979) produced by David Thomas (not the Wendy's guy, the Pere Ubu frontman)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGb2Ug9FpCs

L.A. punk de Mexicanos (I)
The Zeros - Don't Push Me Around (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMXFPzPkas

(II) The Plugz - Electrify Me album (1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVJuW4lbQg

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3dCjk_DPso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuFHs9eWYU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKsN5cj9ehs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UlXZxch-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu-fVFtRTHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwMg6jq4uM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YNfvl_qhVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MsLy7T3nCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvcNm1ksRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsWIb_lbeko

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007


Thank you for labeling!

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
punk thread owns

on second thought it probably is a good idea to label videos, i guess it's helpful for people on the app who haven't changed their preferences. I'll try to remember to label from now on.

...but not NOT(!!!!!11) because fbr told me!!!!

Warsick - Human Filth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn7543ZtUz0

NOTA (none of the above) - Taking Away Your Rights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6tGGwaTEQo

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010
Adrenaline OD - The Wacky Hijinks of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGOO8FrSeag

I know Rezillos were posted earlier, i think this song completely rules:
Rezillos - Destination Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7XEfMh_ORU

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

There's nothing more punk rock than learning about songs from GTA

Suicidal Tendencies- Subliminal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Be7Xryos4

edit:
mind control the easiest way sponsored by the cia
it's a weapon you cannot see it's propaganda subliminally

Sweaty IT Nerd fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Sep 10, 2016

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symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

The Sphinxster posted:

There's nothing more punk rock than learning about songs from GTA

Suicidal Tendencies- Subliminal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Be7Xryos4
i saw ST live twice and both times the pit was insane during this song. i may prefer the thrashier ST but they're still all-around great.

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