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I've been fascinated by shipwrecks and disasters (and rescues!) for ages and I thought this could be a good place to discuss wrecks, disasters (historical, contemporary and ongoing), treasure/relic hunting, legal issues of dominion and ownership and so on. Marine disasters (and marine safety regulation) and rescues can also be covered. Diving also comes into this but detailed diving discussion probably needs to go in a different thread. We can post news articles, wikipedia links, longform articles, documentary links, book recommendations and anything else you want. I don't have any specialist knowledge but there will be posters who will be able to answer questions. This OP will be a data resource for links, to be updated regularly. (See the thread for polar exploration here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3655083&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 ) Here are a few to get us started (this will be updated, revised and expanded if you can suggest better documentaries and additional sources): The Kursk disaster (2000)  On 12 August 2000 two explosions caused the partial sinking of nuclear-powered Russian submarine Kursk during operations in the Barents Sea. The submarine sank to the bottom with some of the crew still alive. As Russian authorities dallied, covered their backs and outright lied, the submariners struggled for survival. By the time newly-appointed premier Putin asked for foreign assistance it was too late. Cause: Explosion due to poor maintenance of torpedoes. Death toll: 118 (all) Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster Youtube documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MByjnus8uCg US Muenchen (1978) On 13 December 1978 a brand new German supertanker sent a distress signal from the North Atlantic. By the time rescuers arrived the ship had sunk with all hands. A recovered lifeboat (empty) suggested a massive force struck the vessel. Cause: Unknown, speculated rogue wave. Death toll: 28 (all) Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_M%C3%BCnchen BBC documentary on rogue waves (in six parts), which discuss the US Muenchen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YVZn46KgTs Wikipedia article on rogue waves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave MS Estonia (1994) (c/o Gibfender) On 28 September 1994 a nine-level car ferry was crossing the Baltic Sea in a storm when its bow door catastrophically failed causing the ship to flodd, capsize and sink in less than 50 minutes. The high death toll was due to poor safety procedures, faulty safety equipment, inclement conditions (storm and cold) and delayed rescue. Cause: catastrophic technical failure. Death toll: 852 (138 rescued, 1 died in hospital) Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia Longform: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/05/a-sea-story/302940/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFDGL_ehpkI Black Sea wrecks/archaeology  Did you know that because of the unique oceanographic conditions of the Black Sea, no bacterial decay occurs? This means that wrecks lost in ancient times are perfectly preserved. Bob Ballard explores the seabed and finds an ancient wreck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIun8FdqCE4 Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Black_Sea_shipwrecks Shipwreck hunting in the Great Lakes (c/o Flaggy): https://www.buzzfeed.com/katieheane...NzXj#.nnvYMXGvy Longforms by William Langewiesche c/o N00ba the Hutt The Shipbreakers (2000) - about the industry of tearing down old ships in Alang, India. http://www.wesjones.com/shipbreakers.htm Anarchy at Sea (2003) - about the utter chaos that is attempting to keep track of what goes on in international waters, covering shoddy corporate practices, terrorism, and piracy. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/09/anarchy-at-sea/376873/ The Pirate Latitudes (2009) - about the piracy off Somalia, using the capture of a French cruise ship as its focus. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/04/somali-pirates200904 Salvage Beast (2014) - about maritime salvage and the joys of the Lloyd's of London Open Form ("no cure, no pay"). http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/12/nick-sloane-costa-concordia-salvage Also  me hearties!
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Some great posts already. Thanks, guys.  Can anyone identify this story? It is driving me crazy not knowing exactly what/when/where this was. A large ship is travelling through foggy weather. It is hit by another ship, which slices it in two. Both parts are afloat. Most of the survivors in the split ship are on the bow section. The stern section drifts away. Sometime later they see a shape coming through the fog. They anticipate rescue only to see - with horror - it is the stern section still powered by its engines which are driving it in a giant circle. The stern section hits and holes the bow section, which then sinks. There were at least some survivors. I am convinced that this a Great Lakes disaster, but which one? Can anyone help?
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Jun 14, 2016 23:39
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:A large ship is travelling through foggy weather. It is hit by another ship, which slices it in two. Both parts are afloat. Most of the survivors in the split ship are on the bow section. The stern section drifts away. Sometime later they see a shape coming through the fog. They anticipate rescue only to see - with horror - it is the stern section still powered by its engines which are driving it in a giant circle. The stern section hits and holes the bow section, which then sinks. There were at least some survivors. I am convinced that this a Great Lakes disaster, but which one? Can anyone help? Found it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Daniel_J._Morrell Turns out I was half right. On 29 November 1966 while crossing Lake Huron the SS Daniel J Morrell broke apart during a storm. The aft section did indeed circle round and strike the bow section. 28 crew died and there was 1 survivor.
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Jun 15, 2016 09:53
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Some great posts! Anyone fancy tackling the rather grim Wilhelm Gustloff story? Hard to make that one entertaining though....
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Jun 19, 2016 18:35
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Keket posted:Thought the thread might like this, first part a diver talks about what it's like when someone tosses dynamite into the water near you. Interesting link. Thanks for that. Plus probably the only time I will ever get to use 
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Aug 1, 2016 22:41
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Have there been any accidents involving bathospheres?
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Oct 15, 2016 13:23
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Great posting! I'll do some effort posting of my own when my work lets up a bit.
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Nov 2, 2016 00:51
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N00ba the Hutt posted:The submersible Johnson Sea Link got hung up in a wreck and had two people die in 1973. The TV movie of this story is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzlidTKfth0 I haven't watched it yet but it's on my list.
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Nov 3, 2016 01:10
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/\/\/\/\/\/\ So is the consensus that it was done by salvagers who paid bribes to the Indonesian authorities to look the other way?Josef K. Sourdust posted:The TV movie of this story is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzlidTKfth0 Watched this. It's ok. They made alterations. The son of the inventor was turned into a "world famous folk singer looking for musical inspiration". Yeah. But it's watchable.
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Came to post a link here to the story of Donald Crowhurst. If you don't know it, you should. An amateur sailor decides to take part in an internationally covered round-the-world race. He wants to back out but faces financial ruin if he does. Unable to face the stormy Antarctic seas he decides to dupe people by sending fake positional readings while he circles in the South Atlantic. Then things get out of hand.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst
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Jan 7, 2017 23:46
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5 Unexplained Ghost Ships video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZeFNRsGPY Yes, clickbait. Yes, corny google image search photos. Yes, quite fun. E: What's the name of the ship at the no. 1 position? I couldn't work it out. I had a look on Wikipedia for ghost ships and couldn't see anything like it. Is it fictional? Josef K. Sourdust fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 11:13
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Yeah. Sounds like poop. 
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Jan 25, 2017 20:13
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The mystery of the Sarah Joe skiff examined in a video by Cayleigh Elise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kil30nkdpy0
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Feb 8, 2017 21:00
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 The subject is more engaging than the presentation. Any YouTubers with specialisation in marine subjects?
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mobby_6kl posted:I'm not super into marine stuff, but I found this to be a fascinating topic and a great article IMO: Proclick. - like so many here - much appreciated.
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