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Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

spacetoaster posted:

I like how every conversation about another country still turns into a discussion about america.

its cause america owns :911:

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treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.
Have you ever been around a Native for more than 5 minutes? That's why.

I used to live in a town that was essentially surrounded by three reserves, and holy poo poo they are the most miserable loving people I have ever seen. I never saw one smile, or be kind, or have kids that didn't look matted in filth. Or be filthy themselves, hanging around the back of the store I worked at getting drunk on our postage stamp of grass, getting belligerent when I told them to stop smoking crack in front of children.

And then there was pow-wow! A great time for Natives to come together and celebrate their culture by getting drunk and look for white women to rape.

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Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH
do the indians in canada land own casinos

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
the most highly visible native people in places like Thunder Bay or Vancouver are the homeless ones that look like junkies or the teenaged kids slamming liquor in public, so it's like if buddha came back from his first trip outside his palace and decided that humanity is scum and should be scorned.

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rutibex posted:

:rolleyes:
can we make up a new word that means "murdering millions to wipe them out"? Genocide clearly has lost its meaning!

residential schools are not genocide. we could not hide the modern world from these people forever. it wasn't a racist effort that made their way of life irrelevant, it was social progress. we didn't coddle people that wanted to live the lifestyle of an english peasant, we bought their land and made them go work in the cities! native cultures and ways of life were made irrelevant by the modern world a century ago, it doesn't do us or them any good to pretend that they can continue living in the woods or whatever.

the arctic natives are the most egregious case, their material seal hunting culture is made irrelevant by food shipments, welfare payments, and modern housing. this means their culture is completely destroyed, children have zero respect for elders hunting traditions (why would you? you don't need seals to survive you can just go to walmart and spend your $20,000 arctic welfare bonus). we keep them up in the frozen hellscape and ship massive amounts of food to them in order to preserve our claimes to arctic sovereignty. there is no other reason for them to be up there! so we are stuck, its a human rights violation to let them live like nomads in the worst poverty imaginable, but it destroys their culture to modernize them!

shut up bitch

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rutibex posted:

i know what they are. they are not death camps!

yeah some people were mistreated, but the goal of the program was not malicious. it was supposed to teach them english and lets them more easily integrate into white communities, which was supposed to be positive. you do realize that education is mandatory today for native children in Canada just like every child right? if the residential schools were a "cultural genocide" than that genocide continues to this day!

ok good troll

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

treiz01 posted:

Have you ever been around a Native for more than 5 minutes? That's why.

I used to live in a town that was essentially surrounded by three reserves, and holy poo poo they are the most miserable loving people I have ever seen. I never saw one smile, or be kind, or have kids that didn't look matted in filth. Or be filthy themselves, hanging around the back of the store I worked at getting drunk on our postage stamp of grass, getting belligerent when I told them to stop smoking crack in front of children.

And then there was pow-wow! A great time for Natives to come together and celebrate their culture by getting drunk and look for white women to rape.

shoot yourself in the head with a gun

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
if canada really wanted to wipe out the aborigines they would've cracked down on internet and installed a huge firewall + got all the media under their control, kinda like china is doing to the uyghurs right now

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



Lichy posted:

if canada really wanted to wipe out the aborigines they would've cracked down on internet and installed a huge firewall + got all the media under their control, kinda like china is doing to the uyghurs right now

uygha please

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy

paul_soccer10 posted:

shoot yourself in the head with a gun

Sounds like he has more experience with natives then you, maybe you should be more open minded to ideas.

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

notZaar posted:

Sounds like he has more experience with natives then you, maybe you should be more open minded to ideas.

no

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
it is a fact that the white man has a long history of aboriginal oppression

it is also a fact that a lot of aboriginals can be very unpleasant people, and this is probably highly related to the previous point

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Dr. Dogballs Jr. posted:

one of my best friends is navajo and grew up on the reservation. that seal of th great navajo nation with the four mountains that mark their territory? they call them their prison walls. their own loving seal is a symbol of their entrapment in a lovely dessert. thats a bit hosed to me
Look on the bright side, that image is pretty metal, and your friend has a future in songwriting!

An all navajo metal band would be cool, imho.

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dreddout posted:

Look on the bright side, that image is pretty metal, and your friend has a future in songwriting!

An all navajo metal band would be cool, imho.

these guys arent navajo i forget what tribe they are

https://biipiigwan.bandcamp.com/ but theyre good

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Dreddout posted:

Look on the bright side, that image is pretty metal, and your friend has a future in songwriting!

An all navajo metal band would be cool, imho.


They could call themselves "The Long Walk"! And serve Navajo fry bread. That poo poo kicks rear end.

Jerry Mumphrey
Mar 11, 2004

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 4 years!)

we got really sick of that swollen members song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ssb8UAXrY

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Booblord Zagats posted:

I mean, how many thousands of years without building a single goddam road? Let's be honest, you're pretty fortunate they consider you as higher primates at all and haven't started lockin you up behind bars and charging a loonie a look.

It's like you were playing Civ and by the time everyone had a few wonders built and steam ships, you were still fuckin around with spearmen and hadn't connected any cities. You're just lucky they found you guys before they got in to the nuke tree

Be fair, Native Americans teched hard on the food tree. Dudes made sweet potatoes, chili peppers, pumpkin, corn, and tomatoes. If we had never conquered America we would be stuck with cabbage, carrots, artichoke, and other poo poo nobody likes.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
So what do Canadians eat for Thanksgiving? Seems like a good thread to ask even though it has nothing to do with anything.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Dr. Dogballs Jr. posted:

one of my best friends is navajo and grew up on the reservation. that seal of th great navajo nation with the four mountains that mark their territory? they call them their prison walls. their own loving seal is a symbol of their entrapment in a lovely dessert. thats a bit hosed to me

I'm pretty sure I know the reservation he's talking about, they own like 3 casinos that get a ton of classic rock and country acts playing there every week.

If so, tell him if Big Chief Double Down would knock off the Whomp'um big payouts on video poker and slots while building sacred Adidas Outlet Store #1859 and instead spend the money on getting their schools halfway decent and building homes that weren't single wide trailers, they'd be much better off. Seriously,t he amount of federal money poo poo in to that place is massive and they find a way to make sure it gets wasted to the last penny

Jerry Mumphrey
Mar 11, 2004

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 4 years!)

Solice Kirsk posted:

So what do Canadians eat for Thanksgiving? Seems like a good thread to ask even though it has nothing to do with anything.

grubs

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
they're an easy target here in canada because they can't really defend themselves from criticism because of crippling poverty, poor education, etc etc

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



flapjacks and birch bark

ArtIsResistance
May 19, 2007

QUEEN OF FRANCE, SAVIOR OF LOWTAX
hey liberals if you call everything a genocide it doesn't further your own point, but rather it just makes you seem over-reactionary and cheapens the word

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

ArtIsResistance posted:

hey liberals if you call everything a genocide it doesn't further your own point, but rather it just makes you seem over-reactionary and cheapens the word

LOL, yet the conservatives demand the President use the magic words RADICAL ISLAMIST to end the war on terror or something.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica

FlimFlam Imam posted:

LOL, yet the conservatives demand the President use the magic words RADICAL ISLAMIST to end the war on terror or something.


it's ok, trudeau agrees that we should sell arms to terrorists so they can blow us up, the cycle continues, you can't just go against a contract man!

treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.

paul_soccer10 posted:

shoot yourself in the head with a gun

Sorry pal, I live in Canada! I don't have a gun, or even know anyone who has one as far as I know.

Got plenty of fuckin' Natives tho. Jesus, and I worked for some once. The daughter had distractingly huge tits and never wore a bra, was knocked up at 18. The mother and her would scream at each other all day. Their ranch looked like no one had done an honest days work on it for years. There was a truck that broke down about 200 feet from the house and that's where it was a year later when I started, plus 20+ vehicles in various states of falling to rust.

They would tell me and my coworker to do something, and then half way through they'd change their mind, making the work we just did a complete waste of time. I didn't complain because it was a cash job, but then they ended up owing me money. The next time they paid up in full, I was loving out of there.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

social vegan posted:

flapjacks and birch bark

There is no need for hateful language social vegan.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

there bridge near here that connects a reserve to the casino/strip mall and we play a slightly racist game of "guess the number of natives walking across the bridge"

like any time of day there is between 3-7 natives walking across the bridge

cant say i hate natives though but they yell at me sometimes when i ride my bike through their private property reserves gently caress it its not trespassing if its a shortcut

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

Dr. Eldarion posted:

Is there any country where the population doesn't treat their natives like poo poo? Maybe like somewhere in South America or something?

Paraguay is reasonably chill towards its natives, and the indigenous Guarani language is widely spoken, often at least partially by mestizos too.

Though human traffickers used to kidnap and enslave the nomadic tribes until like the 1970s, but there are tons of farming communities populated by Guarani-speaking settled indigenous people.

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Booblord Zagats posted:

Seriously,t he amount of federal money poo poo in to that place is massive and they find a way to make sure it gets wasted to the last penny


Yeah, it's hard to explain to someone that hasn't had any experience living on/near a reservation just how much of an art form natives have made wasting their money.

As soon as that government cheque hits their hand the first thing they do is go buy enough groceries and other necessities to get them through the week, because they know that within a day or so that money is going straight into liquor, cigarettes and VLTs.

And it's not just the welfare cases. My brother teaches at a reservation school and he knows teachers that make $100,000+ tax free a year that have absolutely nothing saved in their bank account. They get paid on Thursday night and by Sunday morning every penny is spent. It's almost impressive when you think about it.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

They are big on satellite dishes and a bunch of random poo poo in the front yard.

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures
I'm Big Chief Pimpin from the CheckaHoe tribe. How.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

Paraguay is reasonably chill towards its natives
It didn't used to be at all, but then 90% of the men in the country died in the War of the Triple Alliance and needs must, I guess.

ArtIsResistance
May 19, 2007

QUEEN OF FRANCE, SAVIOR OF LOWTAX

FlimFlam Imam posted:

LOL, yet the conservatives demand the President use the magic words RADICAL ISLAMIST to end the war on terror or something.

wrong country gently caress-o

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



Dreddout posted:

There is no need for hateful language social vegan.

lol

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps

Rutibex posted:

yeah some people were mistreated, but the goal of the program was not malicious. it was supposed to teach them english and lets them more easily integrate into white communities, which was supposed to be positive.

Supposed to be positive if you're a white man's burden racist.

treiz01 posted:

Have you ever been around a Native for more than 5 minutes? That's why.

I used to live in a town that was essentially surrounded by three reserves, and holy poo poo they are the most miserable loving people I have ever seen. I never saw one smile, or be kind, or have kids that didn't look matted in filth. Or be filthy themselves, hanging around the back of the store I worked at getting drunk on our postage stamp of grass, getting belligerent when I told them to stop smoking crack in front of children.

And then there was pow-wow! A great time for Natives to come together and celebrate their culture by getting drunk and look for white women to rape.


Shockingly enough when you grow up in crushing poverty you don't turn into a good person. Who woulda thought?

Roylicious fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jun 15, 2016

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



sounds like they should smile more!

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


I live between two reserves (one blocks away, one about a km away) and things are pretty mellow and integrated, outside of the reserve at least. The reserves themselves look pretty third world. (Vancouver)

Honestly they tend to blend in with all the other asian immigrants.

Weirdo
Jul 22, 2004

I stay up late :coffee:

Grimey Drawer

treiz01 posted:

The daughter had distractingly huge tits and never wore a bra, was knocked up at 18. The mother and her would scream at each other all day. Their ranch looked like no one had done an honest days work on it for years. There was a truck that broke down about 200 feet from the house and that's where it was a year later when I started, plus 20+ vehicles in various states of falling to rust.

To be fair, this accurately describes white Canadians too.

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Honestly they tend to blend in with all the other asian immigrants.

:iceburn:

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