Popete posted:Yeah Windows 10 is fine I don't care about having an OS argument. It's the fact the Micrsoft is terrible about promoting their games and end up artificially restricting the player base on PC by making it Win 10 only and use their lovely app store. This game will be dead on PC in a month from release and it's entirely Microsofts fault. I'm bitter because I want to play it but no one I know is getting it. Yeah it couldn't possibly be because of performance improvements from windows 10 and not wanting to deal with the hassle of keeping it working on several different versions of windows because spergs can't stand new things
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Yeah it couldn't possibly be because of performance improvements from windows 10 and not wanting to deal with the hassle of keeping it working on several different versions of windows because spergs can't stand new things You truly think it would be hard to get this game to run on Windows 7?
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Jun 14, 2017 04:38
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This just sold me on your weird, pirate themed walking simulator https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/874077866157146112
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Jun 14, 2017 09:09
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Popete posted:You truly think it would be hard to get this game to run on Windows 7? I think back patching directx is more trouble than its worth
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Jun 14, 2017 11:48
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Donnerberg posted:This just sold me on your weird, pirate themed walking simulator 
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Jun 19, 2017 19:35
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Popete posted:You truly think it would be hard to get this game to run on Windows 7? Much much much harder than getting you to just upgrade already. Like, they gave out windows 10 upgrades for free for a very good reason, dude.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:37
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Much much much harder than getting you to just upgrade already. Like, they gave out windows 10 upgrades for free for a very good reason, dude. I have Windows 10, I'm not against Windows or anything I just think it's another hamfisted way for Microsoft to try to get people to upgrade to 10 and use their bad Games for Windows or whatever they call it now ecosystem. It artificially limits who is going to be playing this on PC.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:44
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All the E3 footage of this game coming out looks amazing. Can't wait to play.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:47
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Popete posted:I have Windows 10, I'm not against Windows or anything I just think it's another hamfisted way for Microsoft to try to get people to upgrade to 10 and use their bad Games for Windows or whatever they call it now ecosystem. It artificially limits who is going to be playing this on PC. They are artificially limiting you to using windows 10 so that developers don't have to do a shitload more work so a grog hipster like you can keep using your old operating system.
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Jun 20, 2017 03:26
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:They are artificially limiting you to using windows 10 so that developers don't have to do a shitload more work so a grog hipster like you can keep using your old operating system. Again I have Windows 10, I don't think you're understanding this. I don't care about the Windows 10/7 argument you're just attacking a straw man. It's about them continueing to use their dumb Windows app storefront instead of Steam so by default it's already going to limit the people who will buy this since many won't ever even notice it pop up. On top of that the Windows 10 only is a poor excuse to push upgrades because getting this to run on 7 is likely almost not extra work for the devs. Do you ever hear about other developers complaining that it's too much work to support Windows 7 and only do a Windows 10 release? No.
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Popete posted:Again I have Windows 10, I don't think you're understanding this. I don't care about the Windows 10/7 argument you're just attacking a straw man. If it's not about windows 10 why do you keep bringing up 7 instead of "put it on steam"
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Jun 20, 2017 21:41
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Sea of Thieves: Bill Gates'sss revenge
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:If it's not about windows 10 why do you keep bringing up 7 instead of "put it on steam" Why can't it be both? It should be on Steam and it should be Windows 7 compatible just like every other game on the planet that isn't developed by Microsoft for PC. But again it's not because of "too much effort" it's Microsoft's ham fisted way of forcing people into their app store ecosystem and to move over to Windows 10. But in reality no one (or very few) is going to do that just to play Sea of Thieves and I really wish Microsoft would just give up on that and release their games like any other normal developer. Instead this game will have a limited player base on PC and likely die out in a month.
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Popete posted:Why can't it be both? It should be on Steam and it should be Windows 7 compatible just like every other game on the planet that isn't developed by Microsoft for PC. But again it's not because of "too much effort" it's Microsoft's ham fisted way of forcing people into their app store ecosystem and to move over to Windows 10. But in reality no one (or very few) is going to do that just to play Sea of Thieves and I really wish Microsoft would just give up on that and release their games like any other normal developer. Instead this game will have a limited player base on PC and likely die out in a month. 
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Jun 20, 2017 22:56
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You sir, Popete, have really strong feeling about an outdated operating system that you can upgrade for free. Edit: Windows 7 launched in 2009. It's time to let go and move on. Lie about being disabled and get it for free. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade Communist Q fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 00:23
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I don't know how many times I have to say that I already have Windows 10 and I really don't care about arguing about 7 vs 10 it doesn't matter to me. My point is primarily that Microsoft continues to restrict their games market by trying to force people into their app eco system and it sucks. It's more a complaint that it should be on Steam, but I was harping on Windows 7 because acting like it's a huge pain for a Microsoft published game to support Win 7 compatibility is a really bad excuse when literally every other game on the market works just fine in 7 and 10.
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Popete posted:I don't know how many times I have to say that I already have Windows 10 and I really don't care about arguing about 7 vs 10 it doesn't matter to me.  Popete posted:Why can't it be both? It should be on Steam and it should be Windows 7 compatible just like every other game on the planet that isn't developed by Microsoft for PC. But again it's not because of "too much effort" it's Microsoft's ham fisted way of forcing people into their app store ecosystem and to move over to Windows 10. But in reality no one (or very few) is going to do that just to play Sea of Thieves and I really wish Microsoft would just give up on that and release their games like any other normal developer. Instead this game will have a limited player base on PC and likely die out in a month. Popete posted:I have Windows 10, I'm not against Windows or anything I just think it's another hamfisted way for Microsoft to try to get people to upgrade to 10 and use their bad Games for Windows or whatever they call it now ecosystem. It artificially limits who is going to be playing this on PC. Popete posted:The Windows 10 requirement is just stupid, I have Win 10 but no one is going to upgrade to Windows 10 just to play Sea of Thieves so they're limiting themselves over some stupid policy the highers up want enforced. I mean, maybe if you stopped bringing up windows 10/7 and just talked about distribution platforms you'd be right in saying I'm strawmanning you, buuuuuuut...
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:
Right, it ties into what I'm saying. Microsoft has been trying to rope people into their app ecosystem and force upgrades via Vidya Games for a long time. Does no one remember Games for Windows and how lovely that was? Windows 7 like it or not is still a large share of the OS marketplace and the only reason to limit it to 10 is to get those people over. Which sure ok whatever, I guess at this point they can do that but the game will have a smaller market because of it. All of this is my way of saying I want to play this game and I don't have an Xbox 1 and I'm pretty sure this game isn't gonna have a big following on PC and it will entirely be Microsofts faults for limiting themselves in the name of pulling people into their ecosystem.
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Popete posted:Right, it ties into what I'm saying. Microsoft has been trying to rope people into their app ecosystem and force upgrades via Vidya Games for a long time. Does no one remember Games for Windows and how lovely that was? Windows 7 like it or not is still a large share of the OS marketplace and the only reason to limit it to 10 is to get those people over. Which sure ok whatever, I guess at this point they can do that but the game will have a smaller market because of it. New thread title: "Sea of Thieves: Ecosystem!"
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I'm really trying to give a gently caress about what's being discussed here but I just want to play this game.
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Hi Mr Popete. Could I suggest you investigate what windows operating systems have directX 12 on them, what the xbone has running on it, compare the two and then come to a conclusion why microsoft first party/exclusive xbone games require windows 10. It might surprise you! Edit: Also a MP only sandbox pirate sim that can't be played solo was always going to die in the rear end almost instantly so getting hissy about the pc market being split is kinda lol.
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hey um while I too want to play this game I dropped in to say you should upgrade your OS if you like your personal info to stay safe and all all those viruses you see everyone getting owned by in the news? hint they didn't upgrade their os and keep it patched hth
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Jun 22, 2017 19:48
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I definitely plant to upgrade my OS when Windows 11 comes out
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Jun 22, 2017 21:56
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I change OS when I change PCs, except if the newest OS is less than a year old when I'm getting the PC, because I don't want to deal with bugs and game crashes. Sorry, Windows 10, you had bad timing. See you in three years.
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Byolante posted:Hi Mr Popete. Could I suggest you investigate what windows operating systems have directX 12 on them, what the xbone has running on it, compare the two and then come to a conclusion why microsoft first party/exclusive xbone games require windows 10. It might surprise you! I'm not a techman, why is this directX 12 thing win10 only?
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Senor Dog posted:I'm not a techman, why is this directX 12 thing win10 only? I assume he was referring to the fact that Xbox is effectively running Windows 10 on it, so it means all Microsoft games are more or less fully cross-compatible with Windows 10 (almost) out of the box. That's how "Xbox Play Anywhere" came about, since it costs them almost nothing to have a game run on Xbox AND Windows 10, when they may have only ever meant to develop stuff for Xbox. Basically, Windows 10 is going to get a fuckload more 'console-exclusive' games (in theory), since they've made it extremely easy for an Xbox dev to sell their game on Windows 10 going forward. Pryce fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Pryce posted:I assume he was referring to the fact that Xbox is effectively running Windows 10 on it, so it means all Microsoft games are more or less fully cross-compatible with Windows 10 (almost) out of the box. That's how "Xbox Play Anywhere" came about, since it costs them almost nothing to have a game run on Xbox AND Windows 10, when they may have only ever meant to develop stuff for Xbox. Basically, Windows 10 is going to get a fuckload more 'console-exclusive' games (in theory), since they've made it extremely easy for an Xbox dev to sell their game on Windows 10 going forward. Yeah this essentially. Win7 and an Xbone are very different beasts in terms of APIs and what have you whereas Xbone and Win10 are similar enough that a port is trivial. A good example of how markedly different and behind current events Win7 is would be that you need to load a driver to be able to use a xbox 360 controller, win10 comes with the xbox dash built in.  That comes up when you press the xbox button on win 10
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Except this game is using the unreal engine and they could port it to PS4 by clicking a checkbox if they wanted to. lol APIs.
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When can I play this game? I just signed up for early access, did that already happen?
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M2tt posted:Except this game is using the unreal engine and they could port it to PS4 by clicking a checkbox if they wanted to. Sure, but that's not what this conversation is about. We're arguing about why these are Windows 10 exclusive games (instead of supporting previous Windows version).
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Pryce posted:Sure, but that's not what this conversation is about. We're arguing about why these are Windows 10 exclusive games (instead of supporting previous Windows version). Except it is because it's a business decision by Microsoft, all these technical excuses are white knighting nonsense.
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Pryce posted:I assume he was referring to the fact that Xbox is effectively running Windows 10 on it, so it means all Microsoft games are more or less fully cross-compatible with Windows 10 (almost) out of the box. That's how "Xbox Play Anywhere" came about, since it costs them almost nothing to have a game run on Xbox AND Windows 10, when they may have only ever meant to develop stuff for Xbox. Basically, Windows 10 is going to get a fuckload more 'console-exclusive' games (in theory), since they've made it extremely easy for an Xbox dev to sell their game on Windows 10 going forward. Byolante posted:Yeah this essentially. Win7 and an Xbone are very different beasts in terms of APIs and what have you whereas Xbone and Win10 are similar enough that a port is trivial. A good example of how markedly different and behind current events Win7 is would be that you need to load a driver to be able to use a xbox 360 controller, win10 comes with the xbox dash built in. Thanks for the explanations!
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I really hope this game isn't complete poo poo. I haven't kept up with it outside of the general announcement, but it looked to be as if it could be quite fun.
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Yeah I would really love for this game to be good.
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Senor Dog posted:Thanks for the explanations! Sadly it will still be a portfest with badly optimised controls and generally poor graphics in comparison with made for PC only games. There are only so many "hacks" you can do(higher res textures, fake AA such as FXAA, et cetera)
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I like pirates
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Game looks cool but not upgrading to Win 10 for this.
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hayden. posted:Game looks cool but not upgrading to Win 10 for this. Cool story
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You know that free OS upgrade that allows me to play a lot more games on my PC and significantly improves the performance of all the other games? Yeah gently caress that. My potential ability to make useless posts about my old and poo poo OS that no one has cared about since 2015 far outweighs me actually having fun gaming.
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