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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
This is the non-spoiler thread for the weekly episode discussion!

Big Brother US airs three-times weekly, on Sundays, Wednesdays and Thursdays on CBS.

Thursday Show - Live Show where a player is evicted, Head of Household competition held or begins
Sunday Show - Post-HOH Competition events, Roadkill competition where winner can secretly nominate third person, HOH Nominations + Roadkill Nomination
Wednesday Show - Veto Competition, Re-nominations if needed

The season starts June 22nd! The theme for this season is currently unknown, but it will feature a mix of new players, siblings of former players and apparently returning players.

What is Big Brother?

Depending upon your level of appreciation for gross filth, reality TV shenanigans and sometimes excellent strategic gameplay, Big Brother is either the bottom of the TV barrel or an entertaining way to waste the summer. The American version of the Dutch original, Big Brother crams around 16 people in a soundstage house for approximately 97 days. Each week the players or "Houseguests" will compete in competitions to determine who has power in the house. The one who wins this power, the "Head of Household" (HOH) has the ability to nominate two people for eviction. These two players, the HOH and three other randomly drawn guests will compete in the Power of Veto competition. The winner of this power will have the ability to veto one of the nominations. If one of the nominations is vetoed, the HOH will have to replace the player who was removed. Once the final two nominees are set, the rest of the house will vote to evict one person from the game. The HOH no longer plays a part unless this vote becomes a tie, in which case they will cast a vote to break it. Once the player is evicted, all the guests save for the previous HOH will compete in a new HOH competition and the process will repeat itself. This year an additional single competition called Roadkill will allow the winner to secretly nominate a third nominee who will also play for veto and be up for eviction.

Each week will follow this model with some minor variations. All through this process viewers are treated to "Diary Room" (DR) sessions, as the producers will privately speak with each player about their gameplay, their thoughts on other players and the game itself. This interview process also gives the DR the ability to affect the players in subtle or not so subtle ways. (Ex: So you won HOH, who will you nominate? Do you trust player X? Why? Do you believe what they say? Do you think you should make a big move? Is nominating player X really a big move?) The best part of this is that their usually comes across on the live feeds, allowing viewers to see from where plans and moves really come.

Strategy will come into play as alliances are made and broken to ensure ones safety. Unlike some shows like Survivor, this gives the chance for those low on the totem pole to gain power and strike back against majority alliances. Approximately 4-5 weeks into the game, all future evicted players will become members of the jury. Once the house reaches the final three, all three Houseguests will compete in three rounds of competition for the final HOH. Once the final HOH is selected, they'll evict the final player. These final two will then go before the jury, who will then select a winner. The various competitions within the house means there are often several opportunities for people to obtain power and exploit it or fake sucking at competitions to fly under the radar. Both strategies often prove successful to various degrees. The strategy sessions among players often prove to be one of the best aspects of the show, as you get a daily running idea of who they are targeting, who they can manipulate to do certain things and ways to ensure they achieve their goals. There is also a generally reliable amount of schadenfreude, as those on the top often hit lows through luck or DR meddling.

Why should I watch?

Perhaps you're a fan or Survivor or Amazing Race or perhaps you've seen one of the other flavors of Big Brother from around the world like the U.K., Canadian or Australian edition. Big Brother U.S. takes many of the same concepts seen in reality competition while also giving one a semi-behind the scenes view of what's really going on. Because the online "live feeds" gives viewers a window into the house for 90% of the week, we can get a good idea of what's really happening with alliances and schemes, what the players are actually like, and what meddling is possibly happening by Big Brother to get certain things to happen. One can then compare that version of reality against what they see on their screens three nights a week on CBS. In past experience, this means that viewers are sometimes treated to racist, homophobic or sexist talk which never makes air. Sometimes this happens to such a degree as to force CBS to acknowledge these actions officially and on air, as was the case with Big Brother 15.

Unlike the original Dutch version and several other international versions, the viewing public generally has no part to play in removing players from the game. However they can affect certain punishments or rewards through online or phone voting. This can include the gross food choices for the Have Not competition losers, or possibly secret tasks assigned to the House Guests.

What should I watch?

If you're interested in looking into past seasons, I personally recommend checking out a couple of seasons to various degrees. They'll all available through CBS All Access on the cbs.com website:

Big Brother 1: Most closely followed the original Dutch premise, as viewers voted on who got evicted. The only U.S. season to follow this model.
Big Brother 2: Switched up the format to have the HOH nominate two for eviction and features one of the most highly regarded players in show history.
Big Brother 3: Introduced the Power of Veto, which gave the nominated a better chance to save themselves. BB US took on its present form with this season.
Big Brother 7: The first and only true All Stars season. Featured players from all the previous seasons, and includes one of the fan favorite alliances in show history.
Big Brother 10: General Goon consensus as one of the best seasons, featuring a memorable cast and another contestant in the running for the best in show history.
Big Brother 12: Worthy winner, with some solid gameplay. Features subsequent Survivor player Hayden Moss and unleashed Brenchel, the now married couple of Brendon and Rachel who you might have seen on The Amazing Race.
Big Brother 14: Return of four previous players who act as "Coaches" to newbies. One of the returnees being a fan favorite who displays some of the best gameplay in show history. Also features the brother of Survivor player Russell Hantz, who lives up to the family reputation.
Big Brother 16: Solid gameplay from the eventual winner, who ran a clinic on how not to get targeted.

Seasons to avoid:

Big Brother 9: Slap dash writers strike spring season. The winner later went to jail for illegal oxycodone sales, the rest of the cast was all generally horrible. Possibly worthwhile as a train wreck.
Big Brother 15: The misogynist and racist season. The winner played a decent game, but they and most of the players were generally derogatory and deluded people.

Okay, I'm down to watch

If you're interested, you can tune in several ways:

The CBS Show: Airs three nights a week: Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is a compilation version of what has happened in the house with a live Thursday show.
Big Brother After Dark: Airs every night for three hours from around 11-2 on POP. Rotates between live feeds, censors language and has commercial breaks.
Live Feeds Online through CBS All Access: "24/7" access to the feeds barring ceremonies, competitions and the Thursday live show taping. Also blanks out feeds when some legal issue may arise. i.e. copyrighted song singing or players speaking about someone by name who didn't sign off and allow that.
CBS also provides clips of various memorable events through their Live Streaming Player.

So what do the Live Feeds get you? Four camera feeds from inside the house. Generally two cameras focusing on an area each. Meaning two cameras will cover the same conversation from different angles, while two other cameras cover another conversation. Which room is being covered will be at the mercy of the guys and gals in the control room. They are generally good about switching to conversations/events most at interest strategically or those the most entertaining. It should be noted that live feeds are not required to get a feel for the show or keep up, but it might be of interest to check out one of the previous seasons, then look for live feed clips online to see how it works. If you do find you enjoy a certain player, the feeds give you the ability to see them a lot more, get a better sense of their game and personality.

If you don't get the feeds, you can also still get a daily/hourly/minute by minute run down of what's happening. As several websites post updates on everything that happens on the live feeds within the house. These include:

http://www.bigbrothernetwork.com
http://www.hamsterwatch.com
http://www.jokersupdates.com
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com

If you wish to jump in the live feeds and talk spoilers, head over to the live feeds spoiler thread here.

Teek fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 29, 2016

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Season 18 Cast:

Paul Abrahamiam - Tarzana, CA - 23
Victor Arroyo - Slidell, LA - 25
Corey Brooks - Dallas, TX - 25
Paulie Calafiore - Howell, NJ - 27 [Brother of Big Brother 16 Cody Calafiore]
Bronte D'Acquisto - San Diego, CA - 26
Bridgette Dunning - Ventura, CA - 24
Frank Eudy - Marion, AR - 32 [Big Brother 14]
Zakiyah Everette - Charlotte, NC - 24
Jozea Flores - Los Angeles, CA - 25
Nicole Franzel - Ubly, MI - 23 [Big Brother 16]
Glenn Garcia - Bronx, NY - 50
James Huling - Wichita Falls, TX - 32 [Big Brother 17]
Michelle Meyer - Washington Township, MI - 23
Natalie Negrotti - Franklin Park, NJ - 26
Da'Vonne Rogers - Inglewood, CA - 28 [Big Brother 17]
Tiffany Rousso - West Palm Beach, FL - 32 [Sister of Big Brother 17 Vanessa Rousso]

In the season premiere, the cast was divided into four teams by schoolyard pick. With each Houseguest picking an opposite sex Houseguest to join their team.
Each group then came up with a team name.

Frank1 -> Michelle5 -> Paulie12 -> Bridgette13 [Category 4]
Da'Vonne2 -> Paul6 -> Zakiyah11 -> Josea14 [Big Sister]
James3 -> Natalie7 -> Victor10 -> Bronte15 [Team Unicorn]
Nicole4 -> Corey8 -> TIffany9 -> Glenn16 [Freakazoids]

Teek fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Sep 22, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Two hour premiere starts in just under an hour! (screw the west coast)

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
The episode will go up within the next 6-8 hours or so. Not sure if it'll require CBS All Access or not, which is their $6 per month streaming service.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Glenn did really well in that comp. I thought it would kill him, but he was really close.

Josea and Victor are really dumb...

Nicole's nominations are questionable, I have to think Paul is the backup nomination in case Josea comes down, but what if Paul wins veto and pulls down Josea? Come on Nicole. Paulie was dead on that the worst thing can and often does happen.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, seems like the proper throw is to go super slow.

And did I see Lawon in the audience behind Liz and Julia? His superpowers are nearly here!

I think the 8 Pack were hoping for a Paulie HOH, and it seems like they could throw it his way if he stays in.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
https://twitter.com/realityblurred/status/748702156706963456

Looks like we have to wait awhile.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I appreciate that in place of a personality, Corey has become the "lol Christmas" guy for callback jokes when that holiday is mentioned.

I don't think Frank's game is totally dead, as it's still dependent upon those dead set on getting him out to win something.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, this will be really easy to sell people out. Wonder if anyone will. People might cut their losses and let Tiffany go.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Basically there are some angles to getting him out via Da'Vonne's own desire for that to happen and some pull she might have to make it actually happen. The episode didn't go into that though.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Popero posted:

Sucks that it was a knockout veto where there was one main person that everyone was going to challenge. On the other hand, if you lose a puzzle to Corey, I'm not sure what to say.

Yeah, what the hell was with that veto rule. The competition itself was fine, that particular rule was lame as hell. Should have allowed the winner to choose the next two, as has been done in some HOHs.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, it sounded like Tiffany had the right idea by starting at the bottom and then working her way up. She then immediately abandoned that idea. Doh. She wasn't very good at comps.

I don't have very high expectations for Victor. Who knows if the Tiffany "Trust Frank" thing will get any play. I'm guessing yes, since Paul and Paulie's low key Frank friendless these last two weeks will probably pay off, so the bro thing will probably happen.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, anytime you're doing what the house wants, you're not in a power position. If you're HOH, you should make moves to flip that around. Draw people in, shuffle the board and get out the targets who pose the biggest risk to you.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Probably bull poo poo:

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2016/07/big-brother-19-fall/

That doesn't leave much time to gut the house and remodel it with a new look.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Not sure if this just happened or not, but the official BB casting website IS accepting submissions again... It closed for the current season back in April. From what I recall, it always opened for the next season after the current season was over for that year.

Teek fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jul 27, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I really wish I could write gently caress OFF PAUL in about forty point font right now.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
As punishment for Brexit, a Frankie Grande class warhead has been dropped on the UK Celebrity Big Brother house. There were no survivors.

https://twitter.com/89razorskate20/status/758759520302669825

Teek fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 28, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I like this HOH comp. Still no fan of most of the HGs.

I guess maybe shoot for Natalie for the Never Have Not Care Package? Save a better package for Bridgette possibly?

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
A couple of those would be good for Bridgette.

The bribe is cool too (assuming it's revealed after the veto ceremony), a "Hey, if I'm on the block and you help keep me safe, I'll give you X$ after I make it to next week" Wonder if you could lie about how much money you get in the package. If the HOH knows what it is before noms, it just gives them the ability to be a super big rear end in a top hat to someone. i.e. Give me the money or you're going home.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
The thing is, at least of one the powers is kinda of bad. The bribe power has to revealed to everyone, so that could seemingly cause some bad feelings for the one who gets it and the one who is bribed.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I agree, best to give her the co-HOH power or the immunity for the week power.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
More on Season 19 on All Access this fall:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-brother-moves-fall-cbs-915090?utm_source=twitter
http://deadline.com/2016/08/big-brother-season-19-fall-cbs-all-access-1201796972/

Still not "official" yet. Nothing about it being the new permanent home for BB. Nothing about any prize money difference either.

Teek fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Aug 2, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
At least this year they have the All Access app semi-working with the feeds.

Edit: All Access Fall Season Officially Official: http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/news/1005575/new-digital-edition-of-big-brother-coming-to-cbs-all-access-this-fall/

Sounds like the same crew are returning, including the producers and Julie. No mentioned of calling it "season 19" though...

Teek fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Aug 3, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, half the poo poo in the house breaks and falls apart anyway. So it won't be too surprising if a rush job results in the same things happening anyway.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Renewed for two more seasons:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-brother-renewed-zoo-season-918654

This doesn't appear to include the All Access season, which accordingly to this, isn't seen as season 19.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
For everyone bailing on this season, I would encourage you guys to watch the next two episodes at least...

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Teek posted:

For everyone bailing on this season, I would encourage you guys to watch the next two episodes at least...

Pretend I didn't post this.

DAMNIT.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Someone post the image of him peeing in the Jacuzzi and the yellow cloud which forms.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Teek posted:

For everyone bailing on this season, I would encourage you guys to watch the next two episodes at least...

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
More on the All Access season:

http://zap2it.com/2016/08/big-brother-on-cbs-all-access-everything-we-know/

Less fish/Jeff? BTS footage? Also more reserved but possibly longer comps?

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Restating what I said a few days ago, this should be a good week or episodes for anyone on the fence about continuing. Tonight has the potential to be one of the best episodes ever based on all the material over the last week. Hopefully they can give it justice.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
A lot of the hype is that for half a season we've been getting poo poo gameplay. This week everyone finally realized what game they were playing. So while it might not be way out there as far as events which go down, the highs and lows made for a hell of a ride.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Ahh, they boned Big Meech there. She had a ton of burns on Paulie before last Thursday's episode. Hopefully they'll put in the ones she dishes after the nomination ceremony.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, I really wish we could have gotten more of the big rear end pile evidence about Paulie's dealings being exposed. Hopefully that's just more meat for the Wednesday episode.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Fast Luck posted:

Haha Paul and Victor really are getting boned. They make the big move last week only to have Nat and James immediately turn against them, and why? Because Paul is gunning for James? But that's not even true! He is a big liar and he is a big threat so it does make sense for those reasons but the primary factor in these noms seems to be bs

I don't get the scene at the beginning of the episode where Paul and Paulie came out of London and Paulie made his "Get Victor and then James" out pitch to Nicole and Corey. Paul just stood there the whole time, we got nothing from him and no DR to give that any kind of context. Why did they show it like that? There was no setup or explanation for it. Obviously he's playing a lot of angles, but it seemed to come out of nowhere and not get addressed in any way.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
There are walkways all around the top of the walls where they have rigging bars and cameras. So they just have one of the stagehands toss it from up there.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.


Big Brother: Over the Top

http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/big-brother-over-the-top/vp-AAinkoa

  • Starts Wednesday, September 28th
  • Weekly episode with Live Eviction
  • Julie!...?
  • Weekday recaps
  • 24/7 Live feeds with no (scheduled) blackouts
  • More audience influence votes
  • Per press release, first place gets $250,000. Half the prize of the CBS season.

Teek fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Sep 1, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Getting in on the ground floor of calling this new show Big Half-Brother.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Muddy Burphy posted:

The shorter season will also hopefully lead to a sense of urgency and less lying around all day

They also needs to better space out the endgame, keep like 8 people going into the last two weeks, then burning a bunch of DEs.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I soured on Da' when she turned really gross with her gloating in Tiffany's goodbye video. Talk about not wanting to set a bad example for your daughter...

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