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Aug 17, 2009

tenspott posted:

In theory, better commerce is the big one. Lowered international barriers supposedly means the ability to import and export freely in a trans European marketplace.

In theory? We have an actual IRL common market with free movement of goods, services and workers.

The whole situation is bizarre, in that we are basically about to gently caress our economy up because of racism and xenophobia in a small part of the Conservative party, which has lead to a referendum being forced on Cameron, which has actually given credence to the notion that leaving the EU might be a good idea.

There is no actual cogent or pressing argument for leaving the EU at this point other than "we are scared that non-white people or people who speak Foreign will continue coming to Britain". The rest is just magical thinking or plain made-up:

"The EU is undemocratic" (despite the fact that we elect our European parliamentarians, the Council is made up of the delegates of our democratically elected national governments and the fact that we have an incredibly centralised and insular political class in the UK that is only really good at representing rich people in London and the home counties).

"Losing the common market isn't a problem because another one will come along in a minute" (or, alternatively, because we all need to close our eyes and really BELIEVE harder in the UK economy).

Or, "we're giving all our money to the EU!" (a net figure is perhaps £8 billion, out of total public spending of ~£750 billion - so a princely 1% of public spending annually for access to the common market and a significant say in European law and politics).

Dogmeat posted:

So if the brits vote to leave does that mean Scotland gets tossed out with them? Because wasn't the idea that they wouldn't be part of the EU if they broke off from the UK a big reason that the Scots didn't vote to leave?

Yes but don't worry, anti-immigrant hysteria is doing pretty well north of the border as well, so this may not even trigger a new independence referendum.

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