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hifi posted:i think if you say phoenix failed at hockey then pittsburgh is right up there too with potentially selling the team the yotes are inexplicably hanging out where they ought not I don't much care whether Vegas succeeds or fails, but I'm interested as hell to see what kind of team they draft
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If Vegas doesn't build a team around explosive high risk high reward offense and poor defense I'm going to be disappointed
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Kyrosiris posted:Welcome to being a "non-traditional" hockey market fan. Thanks friend. I, for one, can't wait to cheer for my bad team while drinking with co-workers and friends and having a good time for a few hours.
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pizza valentine posted:Thanks friend. I, for one, can't wait to cheer for my bad team while drinking with co-workers and friends and having a good time for a few hours. I mean more in the sense of having to deal with unending "hurr what if you folded or relocated lololol" jokes, but yeah, it's a good time other than that. 
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On the bright side, the Vegas team will probably still be better than the Leafs and Oilers.
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My hot take is that its possible Vegas doesn't work out but its a huge victory for the NHL to get into that market before the NBA did, because if it does work out it'll be a massive success.
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Contract all teams south of the 49th. They don't truly understand hockey anyway. Rebuild the league the way Gord intended.
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hifi posted:i think if you say phoenix failed at hockey then pittsburgh is right up there too with potentially selling the team Has Pittsburgh ever been a successful hockey market without 2 of the top 5 players in the world?
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So who's gonna be the GM/Coach for this team? Who y'all got at the top of the Craps?
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Rotten Cookies posted:So who's gonna be the GM/Coach for this team? Who y'all got at the top of the Craps? apparently vegas is interested in penguins assistant gm jason botteril. currently his main responsibility is managing the salary cap for the penguins iirc and he's assumed to be one of the leading candidates to replace rutherford whenever he steps down, but obviously that doesn't preclude him deciding to go "gently caress it" and go to vegas instead of waiting around
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maloney makes a lot of sense but who knows
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Jun 23, 2016 22:31
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The Las Vegas Sand People Replace staff with a hockey stick.
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https://twitter.com/SinBinVegas/status/746105911131791360 I'm cool with that
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they'd be sharing a name with both an AHL and OHL club; guess there's nothing wrong with that, but I figured they'd try to distinguish the brand
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Jun 23, 2016 23:32
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The Las Vegas Aces would be a better name, but, eh, Knights isn't bad.
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I can see Vegas succeeding the same way the Thunder have in Oklahoma City. Only game in town.
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Mike_V posted:I can see Vegas succeeding the same way the Thunder have in Oklahoma City. Only game in town. And when the NFL and NBA come?
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If Subban gets traded, can I join Vegas Argument Stadium?
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JawKnee posted:they'd be sharing a name with both an AHL and OHL club; guess there's nothing wrong with that, but I figured they'd try to distinguish the brand There isn't an AHL team called the Knights
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that'll teach me to only glance at google results
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I was gonna say there was a British Hockey team named the London Knights but apparently that one died, leaving only the Canadian London Knights. 
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Lessail posted:The team doesn't even have a drat name and you're all "likely event Vegas fails" ffs why are you getting all emotional and weird about the new Worst Franchise in the NHL
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Las Vegas Knights is a decent pun
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AsInHowe posted:And when the NFL and NBA come?
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Kinda curious how bad the Vegas team will end up being in their first season. With the expansion rules the way they are, they're pretty much guaranteed to get a halfway decent goalie, and there might be some other teams that are willing to try to offload players that are still good but are vastly overpaid.
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Ginette Reno posted:Kinda curious how bad the Vegas team will end up being in their first season. With the expansion rules the way they are, they're pretty much guaranteed to get a halfway decent goalie, and there might be some other teams that are willing to try to offload players that are still good but are vastly overpaid. Vegas will be in a conference with Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver and Anaheim. They'll be really bad but probably end up with more points than you'd otherwise expect.
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Mike Works posted:They'll move to Oklahoma. Nods in approval
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pseudodragon posted:Has Pittsburgh ever been a successful hockey market without 2 of the top 5 players in the world? As a Pens fan I really want to say "of course don't be an idiot" but truthfully it's hard to give an emphatic yes. They were broke and about to move when they got Mario, and they were broke and about to move when they got Crosby. Of course they went bankrupt WHILE THEY HAD JAGR AND SOMETIMES LEMIEUX and were still a high seed every year, and Lemieux ended up with a big stake in the team because when it filed for bankruptcy he was a major creditor from years of unpaid salary. So a lot of it was just that previous ownership was spectacularly incompetent. They were selling seats those years. I think in Pittsburgh there's always going to be a problem where when the team is bad things will get real bad because most of the city doesn't really begin to pay attention to hockey until after football season is over, and if the Penguins are out of serious contention by then, no one but the real diehards will even give them a glance.
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Eric the Mauve posted:As a Pens fan I really want to say "of course don't be an idiot" but truthfully it's hard to give an emphatic yes. They were broke and about to move when they got Mario, and they were broke and about to move when they got Crosby. Of course they went bankrupt WHILE THEY HAD JAGR AND SOMETIMES LEMIEUX and were still a high seed every year, and Lemieux ended up with a big stake in the team because when it filed for bankruptcy he was a major creditor from years of unpaid salary. So a lot of it was just that previous ownership was spectacularly incompetent. They were selling seats those years. Don't forget that prior to Crosby, Pens hoped a new arena w/ an attached casino would do the trick & that was vote down as well
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I'll be a Vegas fan
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How long until Vegas fans are bandwagoners?
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An expansion draft is going to be pretty different than the last one for two reasons: -The salary cap and floor. The new team needs to spend 55m, and competitive teams might want out of the later years of a big, long contract (i.e. Rick Nash) -Teams are deeper than two lines now. Bottom six are no longer just "checking lines" where guys who aren't good get put, and the decline of the goon has led to more opportunity for the second/third line tweeners who were once top-six-or-bust.
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Zodijackylite posted:An expansion draft is going to be pretty different than the last one for two reasons: I think I read that they need to get to at least 48 million? But it's still a good point. Also, teams have to expose certain amounts of salary too
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all the fans of cap strapped teams with bad contracts are going to be really disappointed when vegas picks a player who is actually decent instead of the lovely guy on a $5 million multiyear contract and on top of that causes the salary cap to stagnate or even drop as hockey related revenue is now split 31 ways instead of 30
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AsInHowe posted:And when the NFL and NBA come? NFL wants $750 million to do it, so nope.
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