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Justin Godscock posted:Going with another desert team instead of a Canadian city for expansion is the biggest Bettman move imaginable. That's the thing. Canadians are going to watch and spend money on the NHL either way. Vegas, there's a *chance* they get the first, best slice of a 2.1 million person market that is currently spending approximately $0 on hockey. It will probably fail like Phoenix/Arizona or Atlanta, but like Nashville or Tampa, there's a chance it won't. Either way, I'll be able to plan trips to Vegas around Blackhawks games and probably not be spending much more than I would on a game at the UC even after I add in airfare, so hey. quote:That will also be convenient when the team moves to Quebec in about 8 years I think the odds of a 32nd team being named sometime in the next 4 years or so is about 90%. Who would get it if not Quebec? Seattle's never going to get their poo poo together. So what I'm saying is in the likely event Vegas fails, they're probably moving to Kansas City or Hamilton because QC will have a team already. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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T-Bone posted:Draft picks, UFAs they've picked up from Euro/College/AHL, etc. That makes sense, I could see how doing something like trading their first and seconds for a couple vets who aren't bottom-pairing defensemen/bottom-six forwards could be beneficial. They'll be drafting in the top five the next year again to get some building blocks, having a couple people fans could actually cheer for would help their cause of not moving in a few years. quote:You can put "future considerations" on the ledger. In the past this has been used by teams to bargain for unprotected players. Likewise, I can see this happening with the Blackhawks trading picks in exchange for not drafting Pokka, Shaw or Kruger or something like that. Makes sense. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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quote:guys haha here's my thought hahaha it's such a good one hahaha what if, oh man this is so good, what if haha the vegas team has to move hahahahhahahahahahahhahaha They will have bad attendance and lose a lot of money if the team is bad and expansion teams tend to be bad. Literally the only counterexample is the 1995 NFL expansion where they gave extra entry picks in the first two rounds to the expansion teams (in addition to an expansion draft) and made the expansion draft rules favorable. And NHL draft picks don't contribute as quickly as NFL ones. So it's a very real problem that they have to face. It's not an affront to your city, expansion is a bad place to start from.
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You need to get some thicker skin, if it surprises you some people don't like the idea of hockey in the desert you haven't paid much attention to what's gone on over the past twenty years or so in the NHL. I'm rooting for Vegas to succeed.
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Do you have any idea how bad they will be the first few years? Maintaining fan support will be a challenge. That doesn't mean it won't happen, BUT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlanta_Thrashers_seasons Out of 12 seasons, two winning ones and the first didn't come until the sixth year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Columbus_Blue_Jackets_seasons Out of 16 seasons, three winning ones and the first didn't come until the eighth year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nashville_Predators_seasons Predators didn't have a winning season for the first six years, they've basically been good ever since though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Minnesota_Wild_seasons Hey the Wild had only four losing seasons out of 16, two of those being the first two years. That probably had a lot to do with having the right people in place because the state breathes hockey. Stop crying about the fact that people are skeptical. A lot of us want to see them succeed and hope they do, but it's critical they get on the path to having a good roster soon if they're going to maintain attendance. Attendance issues lead to relocation. Not sure why you're taking issue with that. It comes up because if the Wild lost every game for fifty years in a row they'd still have full arenas. For Vegas, the team has to succeed, they don't get to just print money because they exist. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Thufir posted:Vegas will be the first expansion since the salary cap and loser point, I wouldn't be surprised if that helped them be less-terrible in the standings than past expansion teams. This is true, they will probably land a few decent free agents because they'll have plenty of money.
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The joke will be when the team name is revealed to be Hockey.
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/SinBinVegas/status/763814212162375680 Baseball has gotten on just fine with two teams being known as the Sox for more than a century. Better some sort of hawks than Black Knights IMO edit: jesus christ quote:The Creator confirmed he had a teleconference with Adidas and the NHL yesterday and that he would know the name. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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The Las Vegas Red Blacks
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Yaya posted:Also apparently the NHL shot down anything gambling related from Day 1 which begs the question, "Why even bother going to Vegas?" Cirque du Soleil I guess
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Las Vegas Killers goal song is Smile Like You Mean It
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If they ended up with a Norris candidate you could call it...Tenacious D.
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Stretch Marx posted:The Las Vegas Chicken Hawks Make their mascot this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henery_Hawk
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This is dumb. Every week there's a new report that a different name is the frontrunner/unofficial choice. They're all just making poo poo up.
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Mike_V posted:Desert (K)Nights is the best one out of the given options. I actually agree but I 100% think this guy is making it up or listening to someone who thought it was funny to lie to him for twenty bucks. Also if "Black Knights" somehow is a trademark issue with the London Knights I don't see how Desert Knights will go over any better.
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hifi posted:black knights is a trademark issue with the army black knights I keep reading in a bunch of places it was the London Knights. The bullshit never stops.
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Zodijackylite posted:Call them the Neon Knights. Fits Vegas. I'm voting for this, but only if they have the most garish uniforms ever.
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The Las Vegas Rainbow Sixes
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Maybe Gladiators? It's similar to Knights, without the likelihood of getting sued. LV American Gladiators IMO
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The Las Vegas Nighty Knights.
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Yaya posted:Vegas was Balrog's stage, though Las Vegas Balrogs would be pretty sweet, they could have a balrog as a mascot and project the eye of sauron on the ice. I mean is that really any worse than Sand Knights
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Zodijackylite posted:Dear guy on Twitter who tweets about the franchise, Rainbow in the Dark could be the goal song
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After the Sin Bin guy doesn't get hired by SB Nation, I hope he just becomes super bitter and ends up getting thrown in jail for stalking Foley
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm definitely okay with Neon Knights as a name, purely because I like the idea of a NHL team named after a Black Sabbath song. Although, I'd prefer War Pigs if we go that route. Las Vegas Snowblind
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'd laugh my rear end off if Bettman approved that after making the no gambling references rule, considering that song's subject matter It works on so many different levels, it's perfect.
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Desert Knights would own.
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The Wild and the Blue Jackets were both officially named around 2.5 years before their first drafts. This team is going to be drafting in 9 months and the owner is still by his account registering fake names to throw people off the trail of what they're actually going to be called. http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/nhl-vegas/bill-foley-admits-registering-fake-names-las-vegas-nhl-team This is already the dumbest team in sports.
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Lessail posted:Maybe the NHL should've allowed Foley to start the naming process earlier Did he really need league approval to ask West Point whether it would allow a theoretical hockey team to be named Black Knights? And he couldn't have thought up an alternative in case they wouldn't? This process has been going on for years. Also it's not just that there's not a name (although he should have had his names picked by now if he's not doing a public vote), it's that he's registering fake names on purpose that makes it silly. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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RIP Las Vegas whatever you're gonna be calleds, because the Raiders are already stealing your thunder and jersey sales.
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Lessail posted:You're really intent on poo poo talking this team Your third post in this thread is saying you hope you don't need to wait until September for the name. Now we know the name's not being announced in September and the guy is still registering fake names. Meanwhile the Raiders are already able to start building their Vegas brand (sure Raiders jerseys sales etc. that Vegas people buy right now will be shared with the league since it's all online, but they'll be building a fanbase at least), it's not good for the something knights. I hope they work out but he's playing this really wrong. They should've been selling jerseys and shirts before the Las Vegas Raiders basically became a certainty.
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Lessail posted:Also good job of comparing a team moving to Vegas with a team starting here You're right, praise be unto the Creator
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You have incredibly thin skin. I find it dumb that the guy doesn't have his name when it's seemed inevitable he was getting a team a year ago, yes. I dared to make an offhand comment that the team might have issues keeping fans if they were really bad, yes. Those are literally the two things I've ever said against your exalted team. You are holding this grudge like a crazy person. I do hope your team works out because I think it's really cool for Vegas to finally be getting teams but this is not going well and you're stupid if you don't realize they're loving up an important time. The NFL is way, way bigger than the NHL and the possibility of the Raiders moving to Vegas has looked legit for like six months, yet the Creator keeps pushing back his reveal date (it was originally supposed to be September, which you yourself thought was a long time). I mean if you wanna be rah rah and pretend you don't see that this is being handled poorly feel free. I think you are actually the Sin Bin guy.
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Lessail posted:Once again you do not consider the NHL dragging their feet nor them not wanting anything official with the team done until they granted it You have a point there. I can understand not having picked a name although I still think he could have had a knight and non-knight one picked out because Bettman can't keep him from just thinking about it or asking family/friends. But registering Sand Knights as fake intentionally is just dumb, they already have 3 possible knights. Even if the goal is not to "leak" the name (who cares), he already had 3 knight names he was considering, plus a couple others. It's knowingly registering more fake names that seems dumb to me but YMMV. This dude agrees I guess http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/columns-blogs/ed-graney/bill-foley-fans-put-too-much-emphasis-nhl-team-s-nickname Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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I still like Scorpions as a serious suggestion and wish he'd circle back to that.
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Maybe they can announce it at a Christmas special event. https://mobile.twitter.com/LanRovr0/status/779079234819985409 quote:Oh yeah, and by the way, while you wait, buy a SinBin.vegas Las Vegas NHL T-Shirt! Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Las Vegas Onion Knights. Ser Davos can be their mascot
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Pornographic Memory posted:"Haha! We said it wouldn't be Desert Knights, but it actually was all along!" Actually it was Sand Knights they said it wouldn't be, Desert Knights is very much in play
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AsInHowe posted:- Foley stated that he a vision of an "Excalibur"-like sword being pulled from a rock in an opening ceremony. I know this is a joke, but they should actually do this, but with the sword in the ice.
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Zodijackylite posted:If they go with gold, then we can always call them the g'nights. Good night from the golden knights broadcasting team
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