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Yarbald posted:Not going into a Roland Emmerich movie expecting amazing writing and character development helped a ton. yea I guess being really high on paint chips would give that kind of an experience
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I fully expected this movie to be a turd. I was counting on it, in fact. I was not expecting it to be so. loving. Boring.
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Jun 25, 2016 23:16
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The queen thing makes even less sense considering this is supposed to be the 2nd stargate sequel
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Jun 26, 2016 00:05
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"DETONATE THE BOMBS! WE DONT WANT TO DIE IN VAIN" *Proceeds to die in the vainest possible way of any movie*
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zVxTeflon posted:The queen thing makes even less sense considering this is supposed to be the 2nd stargate sequel I was hoping there would be a stargate hiding in the background when they went to Cheyanne Mountain.
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Jun 26, 2016 00:10
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This was pretty bad, much worse then the first one. I didn't get enough monument destroying, it was like 1 scene, boo. The young peoples drama sucked too.
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Jun 26, 2016 01:42
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Mae posted:"DETONATE THE BOMBS! WE DONT WANT TO DIE IN VAIN"
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Mae posted:"DETONATE THE BOMBS! WE DONT WANT TO DIE IN VAIN" The orbital defense lasers were destroyed without winning because they waited for an arbitrary countdown instead of firing at will. The cold fusion bombers were destroyed without winning because they waited for approval from central command instead of acting on their own. Remind you of anything in the first movie?
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Jun 26, 2016 03:02
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Mae posted:"DETONATE THE BOMBS! WE DONT WANT TO DIE IN VAIN" Honestly, I loved the movie because of this. The whole thing felt like a fun ribbing on the first one and yet it still had a different feel.
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Jun 26, 2016 03:09
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THORIUM posted:Nope. Plenty of planets don't have a core. Next! What kind of crazy universe do you live in where there are hollow planets?
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Jun 26, 2016 04:21
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Did the lady at the beginning say the Africans fought a ground war for ten years?
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Jun 26, 2016 04:50
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Even if there are planets that technically don't have cores, I have a feeling they weren't forcibly removed via spaceship laser. Instantly hollowing out the Earth and removing all that mass would cause some problems right?
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fadam posted:Did the lady at the beginning say the Africans fought a ground war for ten years? Yep.
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Saw it, enjoyed it. It's not every movie where we have the hunky action lead admit to pissing his pants. Now I'm imagining them using space dirt to fill in the big rear end deep hole in the ocean that leads straight to the core. Akin to the largest scale fecal transplant. Edit: Oh, and at the end, it turned into a stealth kaiju movie. I appreciated that.
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Weird, I heard years but I thought for sure she meant hours. I know it's dumb to nitpick movies like this and there probably isn't a good answer, but why didn't they get shut down when the big ship blew up at the end of the first movie?
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Jun 26, 2016 05:37
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Why are the exosuits the only thing we haven't reverse engineered from the aliens? Movie should have ended with Bill Pullman fighting the queen in his own giant suit thing.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:58
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So how XCOM is this movie? Because I got that feeling from the commercials. The aesthetic just feels really Enemy Unknown, even though Earth should theoretically know everything about these aliens after 20 years
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Jun 26, 2016 06:00
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This movie was so far detached to what made the first one good, I had the same sort of reaction as I did after Jurassic World compared to JP1.
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Pops Mgee posted:Why are the exosuits the only thing we haven't reverse engineered from the aliens? Movie should have ended with Bill Pullman fighting the queen in his own giant suit thing. That would've been a great way to parallel the Area 51 reveal from the first movie. "Actually mr. President, we've been illegally conducting human bio engineering experiments to pilot those exo suits..." Also, I can't wait for the sequel. "Welcome to the coalition of alien planets, please share with us your secret to victory against the alien aggressors." "We suicide bomb them lol."
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Aces High posted:So how XCOM is this movie? Because I got that feeling from the commercials. The aesthetic just feels really Enemy Unknown, even though Earth should theoretically know everything about these aliens after 20 years It's X-Com with cheat codes for unlimited funding and the whole world loves you.
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ruddiger posted:That would've been a great way to parallel the Area 51 reveal from the first movie. "Actually mr. President, we've been illegally conducting human bio engineering experiments to pilot those exo suits..." the whole sphere McMuffin never made much sense to me.. I understand the queen's obsession with it, fighting for 1000 years and all, but why did the sphere act like it it was the race that was enlightened and had superior tech. It admitted its race got wipe wiped out basically, and never manage to take even one harvester queen down. They sound like the inferior technological race to me, and probably ran and hid for a 100 years, space is pretty big.
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So from 1950-1996 they learn basically nothing from the alien fighter but from 96-2016 they get super lasers and spaceships?
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zVxTeflon posted:So from 1950-1996 they learn basically nothing from the alien fighter but from 96-2016 they get super lasers and spaceships? You see, aliens have to go planets to planets to get resources to maintain their tech, god blessed earth, and we had everything around all the time! Thank god Africa or whatever is still a shithole, too stubborn. Man i didn't mind the warlord dude, but that whole thing made me uncomfortable..
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I really don't think there's anything redeemable about this movie. Even the CGI was bleh looking. Hilarious way to follow up the absurd trash that was Stonewall
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zVxTeflon posted:So from 1950-1996 they learn basically nothing from the alien fighter but from 96-2016 they get super lasers and spaceships? One tiny ship vs 100 giant ships and a poo poo ton of aliens probably make a difference.
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Plus prior to 96 they couldn't activate the ship, so it was only after that that they could observe the tech in operation.
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zVxTeflon posted:So from 1950-1996 they learn basically nothing from the alien fighter but from 96-2016 they get super lasers and spaceships? It was explained in the first movie that microprocessors and transistors and stuff were all reverse engineered from the alien fighter, and on that note it's probably just me rationalizing that part of the movie but it also explains how an Apple laptop is able to interface with the alien mothership (I guess USB really is UNIVERSAL serial bus).
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Plus, I don't think the alien tech at Roswell was active until the aliens arrived. Aces High posted:So how XCOM is this movie? Both ID4 movies are XCOM movies. Aliens arrive, bloody our nose, and we fight back and take them down with nary a scratch. ID42 is not a movie based on XCOM2's nonsense that humanity lost the first invasion, though, thank God. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Jun 26, 2016 08:03
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Jun 26, 2016 08:22
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They never said in the film, but in the promo stuff they said he crashed while testing out one of the new Alien/Human crafts. They show a comically large picture of him at the beginning of the film.
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CelticPredator posted:They never said in the film, but in the promo stuff they said he crashed while testing out one of the new Alien/Human crafts. It's in the film in a really awkward lampshade hang.
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Senor Tron posted:What kind of crazy universe do you live in where there are hollow planets? The same one as you. Your statement is actually spot-on. The universe is pretty crazy. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14571-planets-without-metal-cores-may-be-bad-for-life/ quote:Such planets might differentiate into layers of different density but not form a core – essentially making them giant silicate mantles.
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fadam posted:I know it's dumb to nitpick movies like this and there probably isn't a good answer, but why didn't they get shut down when the big ship blew up at the end of the first movie? Because plot hole.
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Neill Blomkamp direct the prequel to ID42 instead of the Alien Reboot. I want to see that Warlord guy kill a bunch of aliens.
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Aces High posted:So how XCOM is this movie? Because I got that feeling from the commercials. The aesthetic just feels really Enemy Unknown, even though Earth should theoretically know everything about these aliens after 20 years
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I know from checking out the ID4 wiki (yes, one exists) that it was revealed in a tie-in novel (yes, those exist) that Constance died in a car crash a couple years after the first movie...did that get dropped at all in-film in Resurgence that I just missed? I kept getting weirded out by David having a brand new love interest when he got back with his ex-wife at the end of the original. I'm also unnecessarily annoyed that we went from "David, you come play chess with me in the park 5 days a week, you need to get out more" all the way to "David and I only see each other for thanksgiving and we cancelled last year" between movies. Where were Russell's kids in all of this? Almost everyone else gets a mention or a cameo, but there's nothing about Russell other than his name being on the monument at the beginning. Basically, going to the Alamo's double feature was the worst way to watch the sequel, as it just makes it glaringly apparently where all the incongruities are. I think the writers for Resurgence were hoping that people only had vague, two decade old, memories of the original.
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Pierson posted:(a jungle war between guerillas and aliens in the aftermath of the invasion sounds cool why didn't they just film that?), Have you seen the tv show falling skies
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max4me posted:Have you seen the tv show falling skies
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I was disappointed. It was pretty much the theme from the first movie, with not as good atmosphere from the character pairs. I'd give 3.5/5 planet destroying ships. David's new girlfriend shouldn't have been in the movie, and more time on Warlord guy and some time to say "hey we just lost 1/3 of the Planet, not to mention that dog's parents". It's all written up at the end as franchise of course. I could see both giant mech robots punching out Alien Queens and a Independence Day: The TV Series: The Next Generation thing working. And they could make it tie in with the new StarGate movie!.
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What I don't understand is how the aliens had footage of Bill Pullman giving his speech from the first movie. It wasn't being filmed/televised. I also thought it was super awkward how they changed some stuff between movies but tried to claim it was exactly the same, like the alien spaceships.
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