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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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Kurtofan posted:Scotpoll II: the Auld Dalliance Poll the other one
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 13:32 |
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baronvonsabre posted:Yeah, that is what I meant. And to be fair, the Tories are doing the same, they just have the decency to stab each other behind closed doors rather than in public Closed doors? you seem to have forgotten how the UK got into this referendum in the first place
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 13:34 |
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Glad to see ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die is polling strong
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 13:36 |
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tithin posted:Closed doors? you seem to have forgotten how the UK got into this referendum in the first place Well of course, but I mean right now when it's important for a show of unity and cohesion. The Tories certainly aren't managing to do that, but Labour are doing a really good job at distracting everyone.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 13:44 |
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Blurred posted:Wtf? How can someone be for national self-determination and independence from a larger union in one case and then oppose it in another? Like, what reasons do they have for believing that Scotland should remain in the UK that don't conflict with their reasons for the UK leaving the EU? Apart from them just being vicious, self-interested dumb cunts of course? Because Scottish nationalism is excessive and dangerous whereas British nationalism is merely sensible. Nigel Farage posted:“A sensible degree of nationalism is a good, healthy thing,” Mr Farage said. “But excessive nationalism is really very dangerous, and Salmond has stirred up amongst 16 to 24-year-old Scots a kind of anti-English hatred and it’s pretty unpleasant.”
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:09 |
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Anos posted:Because Scottish nationalism is excessive and dangerous whereas British nationalism is merely sensible. wtf
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:15 |
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I like you guys, you need to split from the shitshow that UK is.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:16 |
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Downing Street: Scotland doesn't need independence referendumquote:Scotland does not need a "divisive" second referendum on independence, according to Downing Street.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:22 |
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She's clearly giving the go-ahead for independence, no need for expensive formalities when the result is a given.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:23 |
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They're only against a divisive second referendum, so Boris will be doing everything he can to make sure the referendum is pretty much unanimous for independence. Division averted!
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:26 |
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Blurred posted:Wtf? How can someone be for national self-determination and independence from a larger union in one case and then oppose it in another? Like, what reasons do they have for believing that Scotland should remain in the UK that don't conflict with their reasons for the UK leaving the EU? Apart from them just being vicious, self-interested dumb cunts of course? Because UKIP is really more of a pinstripe BNP than it is a "libertarian self-determination party" or whatever the poo poo they pretend to call themselves. And British nationalism involves, well, being poo poo to parts of Britain that aren't (specifically the south) of England. It becomes glaringly obvious when you look at anything UKIP have said about Scotland and Scottish politics- Farage is in favour of removing the devolved government or severely limiting the level of devolution, and it was UKIP's Scottish party leader Monckton (not that they need one) who came up with the phrase "subsidy junkies"- "The Scots are subsidy junkies whingeing like a trampled bagpipe as they wait for their next fix of English taxpayers' money." They've been using anti-Scottish stereotypes to play up anger and support in the south and it's not really endeared them to anyone up here. When Nigel came up to campaign last time, this is what happened. He got locked in a pub in Edinburgh by protesters and had to leave in a police van because two taxis refused to take him: (Link has video) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/16/nigel-farage-edinburgh-protesters-van He came to Aberdeen, swerved to avoid the waiting protest in the city centre, but got tracked down in Bucksburn and my mate Richo got him and David Coburn with some coca cola. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...to-8665937.html Farage got all pissy and started bitching about how terrible and nasty and violent Scottish nationalism was and how we would all be fascists if we voted Yes and then someone threw an egg at Jim Murphy and it was just the worst thing to ever happen and the SNP should be ashamed of itself and never ever campaign for independence again. He was surprisingly silent when Jo Cox was killed though. Hmm.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:49 |
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Blurred posted:Wtf? How can someone be for national self-determination and independence from a larger union in one case and then oppose it in another? Like, what reasons do they have for believing that Scotland should remain in the UK that don't conflict with their reasons for the UK leaving the EU? Apart from them just being vicious, self-interested dumb cunts of course? Because Irony is dead https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/747026741588332544?lang=en-gb https://twitter.com/DavidCoburnUKip/status/747018692349702144?lang=en-gb Sion posted:Preety sure that Pretty is spelled with two t's and one E, OP fixed and updated. Baron Corbyn posted:My suggestion is currently leading the polling for thread title. Is that enough to get me Scottish citizenship should you go independent? You're smart so yes. ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Don't they think meeting with representatives of a constituent nation of a larger sovereign country who hosed off to all hells is a dumb move politically? Not really. The SNP are fully justified in what's happened and the EU having talks with us is far more progress then Britain has done with the EU. tithin posted:I like this one Kind of late to the party I'm afraid. they must be trying to keep things steady but the ship is already sinking and the lifeboats are appealing every minute. Coohoolin posted:Farage got all pissy and started bitching about how terrible and nasty and violent Scottish nationalism was and how we would all be fascists if we voted Yes and then someone threw an egg at Jim Murphy and it was just the worst thing to ever happen and the SNP should be ashamed of itself and never ever campaign for independence again. Nigy Farage is a wanted man in Scotland right now. Extreme0 fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jun 27, 2016 |
# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:44 |
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Blurred posted:Wtf? How can someone be for national self-determination and independence from a larger union in one case and then oppose it in another? Like, what reasons do they have for believing that Scotland should remain in the UK that don't conflict with their reasons for the UK leaving the EU? Apart from them just being vicious, self-interested dumb cunts of course? They're British Nationalists, which means they're not in favor of independence as a concept, they're in favor of British Supremacy, which means 1. Britain must be preserved, and 2. Britain shouldn't be doing anyone any favors.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:49 |
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Extreme0 posted:fixed and updated it's also "undecided" op
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:23 |
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chuggo is BACK posted:it's also "undecided" op
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 17:12 |
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Pretty sure that's in response to this:
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 17:46 |
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The fact that it looks like the UK's flag without the scottish standard can't be a mere coincidence, right?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 17:50 |
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:The fact that it looks like the UK's flag without the scottish standard can't be a mere coincidence, right? Yes it can. See above.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 17:50 |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770?SThisFB& Gibraltar's coming with.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:00 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770?SThisFB& Is Gibraltar a nice place to go for a hoilday?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:13 |
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Extreme0 posted:Is Gibraltar a nice place to go for a hoilday?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:15 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It has monkeys. Scottish Nationalism showing it's true racism. Shameful.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:19 |
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I thought David Cameron said something interesting todayDave Cameron posted:Scotland benefits from being in two single markets. In my view the best outcome is to try and keep Scotland in both.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:21 |
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Extreme0 posted:Scottish Nationalism showing it's true racism. Shameful. lol
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:27 |
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www posted:I thought David Cameron said something interesting today He's wrong. The EU have stated that isn't going to happen. It's either Scotland-EU or Scotland-UK.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:30 |
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Who in the EU said that?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:31 |
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How glad am I my UK citizenship stems from Scottish parents.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:37 |
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www posted:Who in the EU said that? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-scotland-commission-idUSKCN0ZB0LQ quote:The European Commission said on Saturday Scotland was part of the United Kingdom and declined to "speculate further" after First Minister Nicola Sturgeon called for talks with the European Union to keep Scotland in the bloc.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:42 |
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Yes we get it Nikola, you need Scotland to be independent to join the EU. You can stop the show.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 18:54 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It has monkeys. Only 823 of them.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:00 |
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I am staking my claim to retain my position as third top poster in Scotpol (behind the luminaries that are Pissflaps and Coohoolin, that is truly an honour to be proud of) Gibraltar is nice. It feels like the UK with way way better weather. It still has things like M&S, and then the rest is duty free shops and military.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:08 |
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Yes we get it Nikola, you need Scotland to be independent to join the EU. You can stop the show. Nah she needs to demonstrate to the voters that she has tried every conceivable method of keeping Scotland in both the UK and EU. The reality is though that independence will be required, and so hopefully Westminster will continue to display the current level of competence and leadership for the next few months until that can happen.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:22 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770?SThisFB& Yes, because what an independent Scotland really needs is another way to piss off Spain
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:42 |
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Indyref II: Electoral Toodle-oo
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:42 |
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keep punching joe posted:Nah she needs to demonstrate to the voters that she has tried every conceivable method of keeping Scotland in both the UK and EU. The reality is though that independence will be required, and so hopefully Westminster will continue to display the current level of competence and leadership for the next few months until that can happen. If there was some magical way of still staying in the UK while getting the benefits of the EU then I'd argue it'd still be in Nicola's interests to take it. An indyref right now is still going to be a bit of a risk, the SNP have barely had time to rebuild their case after the last one. I think independence is going to end up the least worst option that's actually on the table, though, that's my Forums Poster Prediction
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 19:45 |
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I shall put the motion that Scotland should replace it's flag with a saltire made up of two middle fingers. You can even use your own middle fingers to make the flag. It's perfect.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 20:57 |
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How likely is it that the First Minister will make good on her comments about having the Scottish Parliament block a UK Brexit? How likely or possible is this? Also, where do the SNP MPs in Westminster stand? Has there been any talk of SNP MPs linking up with sympathetic remainers from the Labour, Green, Lib Dem, Plaid and (a few) Conservative benches? Also, how easy do you think it would be for an English Electrician (With other associated electrical qualifications including a HND in Electrical Engineering) to find work in the Electrical/Electronics/Telecoms sector in Scotland?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 21:13 |
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Extreme0 posted:Is Gibraltar a nice place to go for a hoilday? I've been there once and it was quite nice. Yes it has monkeys which are always cool. It was a bit like a sunny UK tbh only the people were much nicer. I had an idea they'd all be lovely snobby expats but it didn't seem that way at all. Basically it's the med only you can shop at Morrisons and it has monkeys.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 22:08 |
Lord_Adonis posted:How likely is it that the First Minister will make good on her comments about having the Scottish Parliament block a UK Brexit? How likely or possible is this? Also, where do the SNP MPs in Westminster stand? Has there been any talk of SNP MPs linking up with sympathetic remainers from the Labour, Green, Lib Dem, Plaid and (a few) Conservative benches? Also, how easy do you think it would be for an English Electrician (With other associated electrical qualifications including a HND in Electrical Engineering) to find work in the Electrical/Electronics/Telecoms sector in Scotland? I don't know this guys background, but he seems to believe that they actually don't have the authority to veto, but not to provide its consent, which Westminister would like but technically doesn't require https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2016/06/26/brexit-can-scotland-block-brexit/
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 22:49 |
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https://twitter.com/PeterMueller9/status/747728783311015939 https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/747729114828779521 Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jun 28, 2016 |
# ? Jun 28, 2016 11:14 |