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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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Niric posted:Scotland's papers: Student squeeze and police attack The guy who publishes the Express. And reminder that the Star was really pro-EDL 5 years ago. To an extent which is still shocking.
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The biggest failure of the last 9 years of SNP government is undoubtedly their miserable failure at replacing the terrible council tax with a more progressive system of local taxation. At the very least there needs to be a revaluation because it's been 25 years. Might actually start to deflate the insanity of the housing bubble, though god forbid a politician actually comes out and does anything that might lower house prices. But yes, a local income tax would be a much fairer system.
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Sep 16, 2016 02:01
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I've just found out that one of the Highland Tory MSPs is their Land Reform spokesman. And obviously he is a landlord (& 4th Baronet). For all that Ruth Davidson does well, you have to say that making a member of the landed gentry your land reform spokesman is a mite tone deaf.
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Sep 16, 2016 12:19
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Alertrelic posted:You must have missed this little exchange. Nah, that's exactly what I was referring to. Well, I read about the exchange rather than watching it but that's what brought this realisation to mind. I knew Mountain was a bad egg, he was the local constituency candidate here in 2015 & 2016 (bastard came second behind Fergus Ewing. Between those 2 very conservative candidates accounted for 68.3% of the vote. I loving hate Inverness) before getting in as a region MSP. I just hadn't realised he was the Land Reform guy for the Tories..
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Sep 16, 2016 12:31
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Lord of the Llamas posted:White probably straight man thinks he's onto a winner telling lesbian what to find offensive or not. He's not telling her she has to be offended by it, but it's a context sensitive term. Me, a straight male, calling a lesbian a dyke is a bit different from a lesbian calling themselves a dyke.
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Sep 19, 2016 13:05
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Angepain posted:how can you not love andy wightman, he's the unkempt academic uncle this country needs I'd say between Andy Wightman, John Finnie & Patrick Harvie (I don't really know enough about the rest of their MSPs, though from the little I've seen Ross Greer seems well-intentioned at least. Suppose all of them are. Scottish Greens are pretty good really as far as modern political parties go.) the Greens have far & away the highest proportion of competent MSPs at present.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:18
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Pissflaps posted:Crossposting from ukmt: she's a loving idiot. I agree with Pissflaps. Will she ever resign I wonder? The dodgy nature of so much of the 2016 intake might be the only thing that can lead to a resurrection of ScotLab at this point
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Sep 28, 2016 11:51
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Extreme0 posted:Angus Robertson won the deputy contest with 52.5% so there's that I guess. Shame. He was clearly the establishment choice, & while he's done a fine job as leader at Westminster, especially at PMQs, it'd have been nice to see Tommy Sheppard win. SNP leadership are in danger of becoming as complacent as ScotLab used to be and probably could have benefited with someone who hasn't been with the part for decades but ho hum. Not like Deputy Leader means much.
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Oct 14, 2016 11:50
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Coohoolin posted:Anyone with access past the Herald's paywall care to post the rest of this? Just right click on the link & read in Incognito mode.
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Oct 14, 2016 12:59
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Extreme0 posted:Did John Swinney just outright say that they are still keeping the pound? I don't see the point of independence if we keep the pound. For people who've wanted independence as their entire reason for being in politics, god the SNP are so conservative in what sort of independence they want. I wouldn't say we lost the referendum because of the currency question, but it was handled absolutely atrociously during the campaign & definitely cost some votes.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:21
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Leggsy posted:In some good news, minimum pricing is finally on track to being implemented. It's a lovely policy because instead of being a tax which could see money going towards treatment centres to help people with alcohol problems it just means that poor folk will spend a larger proportion of their wage on bevvy and supermarkets will make more profit. That's hosed. I'd accept it as a worthwhile attempt to treat a social ill. Put the money towards the health service & social care, giving it to Billy Tesco & Bobby Walmart is a terrible policy though. Now I don't drink too often, but when I do, I binge drink horribly. And unless I'm particularly flush at that moment it's far more likely I'll buy a dirt cheap bottle of Glen's gut-rot vodka rather than a bottle of Laphroaig. Of course it's easy for tee-totallers to back a law that doesn't impact them. But more than "middle class students" drink for fucksake, or this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. What an utterly asinine point. On top of that, I'm just not sure it'll make a huge dent into how much people drink. Just into their wallet. It's a very SNP policy, more about posture than the actual outcome, and a wee bit old-fashioned paternalistic too. Daddy (or in this case Mummy) knows best. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 21, 2016 |
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Oct 21, 2016 18:22
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I believe this conversation was making me want to drink before midday.
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Oct 26, 2016 12:15
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duckmaster posted:As cigarette and tobacco prices have risen, in combination with cheaper air travel across europe, the market for black market and grey market tobacco (where the duty has been paid somewhere in the EU but the tobacco is then resold illegally) has increased. If alcohol prices rise I see little reason why a corresponding market for alcohol won't take shape, although Brexit may well put the brakes on it a bit. Can't wait for Barrhead Travel or some other Scottish travel agent to start offering booze cruises to Carlisle & Berwick so you can take advantage of Tesco bevvy sales..
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Oct 26, 2016 17:13
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jre posted:It's not a tax it's a price floor. And even if it were a tax it would be a consumption tax on a luxury item. No, because it's a tax on fags. This is, as you say, not a tax. If the money raised from it would go towards social care services and the like that'd be one thing, but it's not. That's a different. Though I'd still oppose it because I like to drink alcohol, & when I'm not raking in the cash I settle for drinking cheap alcohol, I'd just oppose it slightly less. Selfish but eh, there you go. We live in a bleak country, maybe if our governments would stop being so loving awful there'd be less reason for escaping through alcohol. Obviously that is involves slightly more effort than just increasing the price on a bottle of Glen's while doing gently caress all to a bottle of Lagavulin.
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Oct 26, 2016 20:29
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Leggsy posted:Reducing prices before solving problems with abuse is just putting the cart before the horse and would likely make things a whole lot worse. Smoking has been declining pretty consistently year-on-year, partially due to higher pricing as well as other innovations. Do we really want to reverse that progress because some people are upset that they have to pay too much for what is essentially a luxury? I don't like smoking. I think it's manky, people doing it smell, and the smoke irritates my lungs something rotten. And yet there's something hosed up about this attitude. OK, smoking is a luxury. Bevvy is a luxury. Aren't the plebs allowed luxuries too? If you get your kicks from a packet of Golden Virginia or whatever the gently caress, and that makes the 8 hours you spend at your pointless barely-better-than-minimum-wage job slightly more tolerable, I don't really grudge you that. Yes, encouraging people to stop smoking is good, on the whole. But some people just don't want to stop smoking, like my parents. They will continue to pay the increasing costs, and if they are pensioners then they are probably doing it at the expense of something else. I don't really feel comfortable with the idea that the plebians should just be priced out of "essentially a luxury".
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Oct 26, 2016 20:37
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I dunno. This is really bad. Now, I know it's The National and so obviously will be embarrassing, but they've come up with this monstrosity. Yes, a really ugly cover for your passport that will let you pretend Scotland is a real cover. Jesus.
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Oct 31, 2016 10:47
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Sion posted:This is some pretty tribalist poo poo, but none more than we've come to know and expect from the national. I dunno. It feels like a step up from their usual cringeworthy drivel. When The National launched, I really did think it'd be a positive thing to have a pro-indy paper just because the balance in the press failed totally to represent almost half the population. But they totally half-arsed it and we got the biggest pile of drivel that may as well just be the party paper of the SNP because it's so unwilling to hold them to account from a pro-indy perspective. Do we know what it's circulation is?
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Oct 31, 2016 13:18
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Christ, is that all? About half of what the Evening Times manages despite that only being sold in Glasgow. I'd have thought they'd at least match the Sunday Herald, or get near it's 50,000.
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Oct 31, 2016 13:26
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Niric posted:Best I can tell that's as of January 2015; Wings Over Scotland (I know, I know) has it at 12,100 in February 2016: The Graun's Scottish coverage is next to zero, it's little wonder they do so poorly up here.
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Oct 31, 2016 14:34
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https://twitter.com/JohnMasonMSP/status/794680109504622593 John Mason thinks that there was no legislation dealing with sectarian behaviour at the football. That man is spectacularly thick.
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Nov 5, 2016 12:14
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Jedit posted:Derek Mackay, the Cabinet Minister for Finance, has been quoted as saying that PFI is "essential" for Scotland. Good to see lovely SNP are outing themselves as lovely. If they keep doing this then people surely have to stop supporting them eventually right? Y'know, in a decade or two... 
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Nov 18, 2016 11:41
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Jedit posted:They're probably including "Sassenach", "Southron bastard" and any swear word prefixed or suffixed with "English". That would be enough to skew the stats hugely even if Scots were less likely to be trans/homophobic. Who on earth says "Southron" anything?
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Nov 20, 2016 18:23
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Jedit posted:Racists in the Highlands and Islands, mostly. It lets them insult the English and infer that lowlanders aren't real Scots at the same time. Well, in over 25 years living in the Highlands, can't say I've heard one person utter it. Sounds like a term that belongs in a fantasy book, Tolkein or some such. I've also only ever heard people utter Sassenach ironically though so maybe I live a sheltered existence. (Which isn't to say I haven't heard anti-English abuse, but "English bastard" seemed to be the go to) Oh, & "white settler". Definitely heard that about English folk moving up here, taking advantage of house prices being cheap relative to what they'd pay in the south east and flying up & down to London each weekend. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 18:44
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Niric posted:Interesting tactic this from the Tories - the SNP have fairly clearly been chasing the soft-left vote for some time (with rhetoric far more than action, but still), so painting them as extreme leftist makes some amount of sense propaganda-wise as a way of going after any right/centre-right SNP voters. Not sure it will have the desired effect (as calling out the SNP for not really being left-wing hasn't had any effect), but intrigued to see how, if at all, the SNP respond It's quite smart really. The only place the SNP are really vulnerable is places like rural Aberdeenshire, Perthshire & so on, the sort of places that have traditionally been SNP heartland but who have probably become Nat supporters because they were Tartan Tories. And now that they've thrown their rhetoric to the left in order to pick up central belt seats, that absolutely leaves those traditional seats more vulnerable than you'd expect.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:29
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The case for independence is weaker than it was when the UK was still in the EU & it didn't really look likely that we would leave? OK Flaps. That's silly but par for the course I guess.
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Nov 30, 2016 19:26
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Once again proving that the people involved in student politics are complete fuckwits, so good job many of them will go on to be elected officials in due course.
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Dec 5, 2016 17:56
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Angepain posted:The nation's lovable stuffy academic uncle Andy Wightman MSP is apparently getting sued by parties unknown for £750k over some blog posts he wrote. Thread favourite news source The National is the only place with anything approaching details at this point, of which there are few for what I assume are good legal reasons, but I've already decided he's in the right here. This is crummy. Hope he wins, he's a credit to the parliament, we desperately need strong voices on land reform.
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Dec 10, 2016 14:04
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bitterandtwisted posted:I hadn't realised Edinburgh Trams were likely to be extended down Leath, but apparently, that's part of the reason Leith Walk is currently being dug up. What's everyone's thoughts on that? The Sheffield tram system was my favourite part of living in Sheffield. Obviously they were a complete nightmare to build in Edinburgh because of all the disruption and the fact it went on forever and was about £375m over budget. It's like how we've forgotten to do infrastructure projects in the entire UK. They could probably do with another route that actually goes to spots where folk live, serving some of the schemes. But those are the sort of spots some of Edinburgh would rather forget exists.
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Dec 11, 2016 14:23
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baronvonsabre posted:The data on how every school in Scotland is doing on reading, writing and numeracy is now available here. Don't worry, they've taken every possible measure to stop league tables from being made. The Scottish Government really are bewildering sometimes.
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Dec 13, 2016 17:30
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TomViolence posted:The Graun: Universal basic income trials being considered in Scotland I really like the idea but the more I read about the people in politics championing UBI, the more suspicious that they are just trying to poison the well. £100 a week? Hmmm, scrap JSA, housing benefit, council tax assistance, and just give everyone a lump sum which sounds like more than JSA but is much less than the combined benefits. It's potential disastrous for people who will simply no longer be able to afford both the rent & keeping the electricity on and having enough money to eat healthily.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:55
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Sion posted:Okay, but when we do the referendum dance again does it not become more likely that the requirements for asking the question will get lower? this feels like one of those slippery slope things where it's just 'keep asking until you get the answer you want' things.
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Jan 17, 2017 12:58
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Venomous posted:Just to check, is anyone going into Glasgow today for the Trump protest? I'd rather we were having protests against Theresa May but apparently she's not quite so transparently deplorable so nobody seems bothered
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Jan 20, 2017 16:26
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Aramoro posted:The sad part is if there was a GE tomorrow I think she'd probably win with an increased majority, new politics indeed. You don't have to be good, just better than the next guy. Coohoolin is Scottish if he wants to be. He lives here. No ethnic nationalism here. But yeah, May is a terrible PM who is hopelessly out of her depth but unfortunately the leader of Labour is too polite to be much of a fire breathing populist outsider & too unpopular among his own MPs to seem like someone who can lead the party, and the Liberals just want to be the junior party in a coalition again, so basically Theresa May is getting a free pass & it's really bad. Still don't think a Liz Kendall Labour Party would be doing much better mind.
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Jan 20, 2017 17:41
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The only good Scots poet is William McGonagall.
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Jan 25, 2017 19:21
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bitterandtwisted posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfjhpw_william-mcgonagall-tay-bridge-disaster-billy-connolly_creation I don't know if I love the fact his middle name is Topaz or how he writes poetry with the rhyming scheme 14 year old me used. "Good heavens the Tay Bridge has blown down". Good god man. A poet for the 21st century. I also adore that there's one of those blue placards for him outside what's now a pub in Inverness, because gently caress the Temperance movement.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:12
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EmptyVessel posted:Too much to hope for a dramatic reading at this years Fringe? High school built up a lifelong hatred of poetry in me, sorry.
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Jan 26, 2017 02:25
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cargohills posted:Really interesting article in Al Jazeera about how Nicola Sturgeon isn't very good: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/01/nicola-sturgeon-champion-liberalism-170123082649966.html That's an interesting take. I enjoy left-wing critique of SNP & their turn into the establishment party, with all the conservatism that comes with that. I'll have to email it to my mum, She seems to take any criticism of Nicola personally & that is funny. I also see some folk talking of a 2018 indyref2? Not sure if I believe that. Seems too soon.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:18
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EmptyVessel posted:Consider that an awful lot of what you listen to for pleasure may actually be poetry set to music. Yeah, Kate Tempest is good. But then I've never had a teacher force me to analyse Cannibal Corpse' I Cum Blood (or more realistically, Dylan or whoever the gently caress is a respected lyricist) so I've not been turned off from it. Plus, good music can give bad lyrics a pass, but for me it doesn't go the other way. Although I suppose some might describe the Sleaford Mods as bad music/good lyrics, they'd be wrong. Naming no names, Jedit...
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Jan 26, 2017 23:09
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Jedit posted:They forgot to list the two SNP MPs who didn't vote to block it. I wonder why. Could it be because abstention isn't quite the same as voting for? So, the SNP & Greens have come to an accord on the budget, as you'd expect. Any feelings on it? I've not had a chance to read anything about it yet
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Feb 2, 2017 15:52
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Jedit posted:Nor is voting to table an act the same as carrying out the consequences, a distinction lost on the Nazi Anal. Because they don't have a majority at Holyrood? They only have 63 MSPs while there are 65 opposition MSPs? This has been the case for almost a year?
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Feb 2, 2017 16:04
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