Blurred posted:

Wtf? How can someone be for national self-determination and independence from a larger union in one case and then oppose it in another? Like, what reasons do they have for believing that Scotland should remain in the UK that don't conflict with their reasons for the UK leaving the EU? Apart from them just being vicious, self-interested dumb cunts of course?

Extreme0 posted:

ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

The fact that it looks like the UK's flag without the scottish standard can't be a mere coincidence, right?

www posted:

Who in the EU said that?

quote:

The European Commission said on Saturday Scotland was part of the United Kingdom and declined to "speculate further" after First Minister Nicola Sturgeon called for talks with the European Union to keep Scotland in the bloc.

"Scotland is part of the UK," a Commission spokeswoman told Reuters. "Constitutional arrangements apply. We will not speculate further."

Sturgeon said Scotland would prepare for a possible fresh independence vote after Britain voted to leave the 28-nation EU on Friday. Scots voted heavily in favor of staying in.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

Eh, maybe. I'm not sure the EU would be happy if our currency was still in Pounds which is also the currency of a non-EU member though. I think if we were to join the EU, we'd have to either switch to Euro or adopt our own currency.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Some clarification is needed here, due to the subject matter: do you mean the logical fallacy, or has this thread had a problem with people accusing others of being fake Scotsmen?

Extreme0 posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748153405089132544

Don't knows included would be Agree 61%, Disagree 39%

Seems fairly right enough as it matches the results Scotland gave a few days ago.

http://tvthek.orf.at/program/ZIB-2/1211/ZIB-2/13117502/Gespraech-mit-dem-schottischen-Politiker-Robertson/13117577

Apparently Germans are actually surprised in how Angus sounds more german then the presenter

big scary monsters posted:

Yeah pretty unfortunate to go from speaking Schwyzerdütsch to Doric. No matter where you go people think you have a dreadful speech impediment.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Don't lie. Everyone knows you hail from Switzerland.

big scary monsters posted:

I bet you'd get on well with Dutch. The vocabulary already has a lot of correlates with German and Scots (sure you can figure out "Ik ken waar je een kerk kijken kan" from either language). And I reckon Swiss German in particular sounds sort of similar, plus for a German speaker the grammar is really simple.

stephenfry posted:

even I know that. Are you sure you're in scotland?

keep punching joe posted:

The area of Glasgow is probably a majority population of new Scots and the only hate crimes I've witnessed are yoons who don't event live here moaning about it on social media.

I'm just guessing they're yoons based on the high number of Rangers based avatars.

keep punching joe posted:

Does Aberdeen still have a fairly sizeable National Front presence? I lived there about 10 years ago and remember being shocked by the amount of NF and swastika graffiti around the place.

Jedit posted:

I think Alestorm are the Scottish equivalent of the Dropkick Murphys. This is not a compliment.

TomViolence posted:

This being National Action, a fascist youth organisation - and just from the looks of things - she's probably about 15.

tetsul posted:

Don't try to deflect blame now, we all heard you. You are now legally required to stay 100 meters from any nazi schools and anywhere fascist children may be playing. You will be registered in a database so hate-mongering parents will know you're in the area.

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Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why?

I would put Angela Merkel (without any protection) in one of her camps and let her pet refugees do the rest.

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I am an NA activist living in Scotland and dedicated member of our organisation. I enjoy reading, browsing esoteric memes and watching the reds lose their poo poo over our publicity stunts.

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Avid reader. Loves nature and animals. Loves European architecture and classical art. Enjoys walking, cooking, breathing. Memes are life. I feel so degenerate, like I’m writing a Tinder profile opening or something. Next!

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Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why?

Is it terrible of me as a nationalist to choose Nigel Farage? Do I care? I just cannot stand civic nationalism, it’s so cucky, lock me in a room with the idiot and I’d skin and salt him for promoting it. It might seem more palatable to the general public, but it’s just halting any real progress for the nation and doesn’t get to the root of the rotten tooth that is multiculturalism. We need radicals in the right, not people who play ‘working class’ and relatable but who are too scared to make any change that would give us true security.

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Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why?

Boris johnson! What an absolute shitshow that man is, I can’t stand him, he is like that idiot running UKIP, don’t know what it is with him but I think he’s a sly horrible devious man, an’ that Nicki Minaj! Id fit all 3 of them on baking tray and set them to gas mark 6!

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"We are more than five million men and women - adults, young people and children - each with our own life stories, family histories and our own hopes and dreams.

"We are the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the thousands who came from Ireland to work in our shipyards and our factories.

"We are the 80,000 Polish people, the 8,000 Lithuanians, the 7,000 each from France, Spain, Germany, Italy and Latvia, who are among the many from countries beyond our shores that we are so privileged to have living here amongst us.

"We are the more than half a million people born in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, who have chosen to live in Scotland.

"We are the thousands of European students studying at our universities and colleges.

"And we are the doctors and nurses from all across our continent and beyond who care for us daily in our National Health Service.

"Whether we have lived here for generations or are new Scots, from Europe, India, Pakistan, Africa and countries across the globe, we are all of this, and more.

"We are so much stronger for the diversity that shapes us.

"We are one Scotland and we are simply home to all those who choose to live here."

Niric posted:

While I get that the last 6 years of austerity and welfare "reform" are a key factor here, it's annoying that the SNP/Scottish Government response to growing poverty in Scotland is a literal "it's all Westminster's fault and there's nothing we can do." Which is absolute crap. It's the same do-nothing-blame-someone-else routine from a party that's been in power for almost a decade. The SNP's record on the economy has been piss poor, and it pisses me off that they never get pulled up on this.

Niric posted:

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Is my opinion, coupled with a negative claim which are, famously, very hard to prove.

If you're going to insist on continually doing zero effort, zero content posts that mindlessly (and without any actual argument) defend the government, you could least occasionally make them funny or something.

Jedit posted:

No. It's remain in the EU or nothing.

forkboy84 posted:

Since we've turned ScotPol into "bad power metal: The Thread", here's a really bad song by some Swedes, Lost Horizon

It's called Highlander (The One) so I've decided that's enough of a connection to Scotland to warrant posting here.

Is doing a 12 minute "epic" song about The Highlander better or worse than an entire album about The Silmarillion? And why is that I will tolerate black metal bands referencing Tolkein but instantly hate every other song that references his works?

Jedit posted:

Anyone feeling any sympathy for the Scottish fishing industry being harmed by the EU exit should be aware that those cunts voted for it.

quote:

I love the widening access & widening participation agenda, and throughout the Commission on Widening Access I was clear that contextualising admissions had to go beyond dropping entry requirements by one grade, or maybe two. NUS Scotland has been banging on about truly contextualising admissions for ages, and so it's absolutely incredible to see the sector body representing Universities in Scotland has decided not to wait for the Fair Access Commissioner to be appointed, and to just plough on making admissions fairer.

Cerv posted:

Stuart Campbell's had his Twitter suspended

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Cerv posted:

do you really believe that there was no reason?

if this was his first warning from Twitter he doesn't seem to be taking it on board; instead crowing to his followers. which makes me think a permanent ban is inevitable. like Milo Yiannopolous got eventually