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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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I think immigrants get an easy ride in Scotland primarily because when Scots need someone to blame all their problems on, there's a much more obvious candidate (Westminster). Secessionist movements, seeing themselves as the underdogs, tend to be unusually left-wing and unusually not-racist. In Scotland specifically, left-wing rhetoric and multiculturalism has also become a way of distinguishing the country's identity from that of England and the hated Tories. I suspect Scotland will start shifting to the right on all sorts of questions when you secure independence and stop defining your culture partly as a negative of England's - immigration being foremost among them. There's almost no Western European country where anti-immigrant sentiment isn't a big issue, and I can't see why Scotland would be any different when it gets control of its own borders.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 21:07 |
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 06:19 |
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blowfish posted:Counterpoint: while the UK was in the EU had to deal with a shitload more special interest bullshit. Now it's not completely hamstrung by tantrum-throwing crybabies on some rainy Atlantic island blocking everything anymore Having a state that represented the concerns of euroskeptics was a very good thing for Europe. If you look at the mood in Western Europe and think ' now's the time to push for deeper integration', you're an idiot. Euroskeptic movements in France and Holland will eat Brussels alive if they try that. But they'll do it anyway because they're really stupid.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 07:50 |
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Scotland has 8.2% of the country's voters and 9.1% of the seats in the UK parliament. It also has 100% of the seats in it's own parliament, which has more powers than the Welsh or Northern Irish. Scottish voters are the most empowered in the country - per capita. If you want more influence, breed more.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 07:08 |