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thotsky posted:I don't get this reference, but if you mean "close the borders, enforce social distancing, begin aggressive tracing and quarantine efforts, provide financial aid to workers and nationalize businesses wholly depending on import labor" then yeah. I would also accept going back in time and doing that in the first place. I'm being sarcastic and suggesting that since the government hasn't been able to stop the virus, the solution is to abolish government and leave it to the market. Saxo Bank is the most libertarian bank, known for bankrolling Liberal Alliance.
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thotsky posted:Jumping to the conclusion that my alternative would be to have the markets handle the response when I am critical of our corrupt/incompetent governments says more about you than me. I think we should be demanding more of our leadership, not less. It is unsurprising that they have caved to business interests, but that does not make it any less egregious and infuriating. Yeah, it's not sarcasm directed at you, just at the general political climate in Scandinavia and the Western world in general. We both agree that individuals are dumb and selfish and need some authority to stop them from making the pandemic worse. And that authority should absolutely be the government, not Landbrug og Fødevarer or Google.
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V. Illych L. posted:actually, probably At least Denmark has "DF but libertarian (and somehow more racist)" covered with Nye Borgerlige now.
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Kamrat posted:Just shut it down and give them an even smaller or no compensation for being asshats about all of this. Do people really care about what they say, I mean regular people or is it just a small group of people being loud? First they come for the mink farmers, and within two or three months it's the pig farmers and the cow farmers and at this time next year, no one living outside of Copenhagen will even be alive. This is what liberals/conservatives believe. What's worse is that swine and chicken flu, along with the current epidemic teaches us that cunning livestock is not a terrible idea. But it's still completely and utterly unrealistic for many reasons
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Retail in Denmark shuts down December 25th. I'm sure it's a date that was chosen because it just makes sense, not because Christmas shopping is Very Important to Our Way of Life.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Luckily, churchgoers skew old. This is the one time of year where people actually use the church though.
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Dec 22, 2020 22:43
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Katt posted:I remember that story about Swedish forces in Afghanistan hiring local translators and then when the Swedes pulled out they left them behind to get murdered for assisting western imperialist invaders plunder their country. Pretty sure it was the Danish, not the Swedish. I think we hosed it up a lot because we were scared of military adjacent brown people, even though they had a pretty legitimate reason to seek asylum, om specifically one caused by Denmark.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:So, Danish Radio published an interesting article just now, and the first thing anyone sees when opening the article is a father and a daughter not wearing a mask, followed by a mother holding her daughter who not wearing a mask while the mother, who is possibly pregnant, seemingly wears the mask wrong (it appears to me that she's twisted the straps of the mask, so that more air is let in through the side). Further down the article, there's a picture of another dad who's got the mask only covering his mouth, while his three children aren't wearing masks at all. Twisting the straps seems fine, the point is not to filter air but the catch the spittle. People with small heads do it all the time. Teaching kids to wear masks and cough responsibly is in many cases basically impossible, which is why they're exempt. Also, lots of people, especially people with glasses, remove their masks as soon as they get outside where they can keep their distance, because otherwise they can't see poo poo. The real problem is gathering people in churches (and other places), not individuals having human mask discipline
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I was in Post Danmark ten years ago before it became Post Nord, but while it was still privatised and also rapidly on the way to become irrelevant, at least the letters that I and my colleagues carried. It was fun for me because I was there between gymnasium and university, but for the lifers, it was just the beats getting longer, the work environment getting worse, lots of bad management ideas and the knowledge that you'd be fired at some point when they company went under. It was very much not a place you'd want to be stuck. It also didn't help that us teenagers were working faster because we didn't have to worry about burning out, since most of us were there for a year like me.
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big scary monsters posted:My Norwegian colleagues still talk about the time like a decade ago they had a Danish manager for a brief period, and it feels roughly equivalent in energy to Brits born in 1954 describing how they lived through the Blitz. I had a terrible Danish boss at my last job. All the the other bosses at her level of middle management were also Danish because this is Denmark, and they were pretty much all pretty nice people, some even actively working counter to upper management when they were idiots. One terrible person is not representative for a country. Not even if said person is a Muslim.
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Alhazred posted:From Muslim-Country? Exactly, where their chief export is terror and welfare queens, with a side of crime and the bad kind of misogyny. I hoped the sarcasm in reference to Danish politics was obvious.
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Alhazred posted:It really wasn't. I apologize. I do try my best to not be a racist rear end in a top hat.
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MiddleOne posted:Looking forward to arbitrary and sporadic shutdowns mid-january. Don't worry, there's every chance any measure taken will be full of exceptions for business owners and suchlike, so you won't actually be inconvenienced too much. Just look at the current Danish lockdown. Also Denmark would love to claim Tegnell as an agent as well. No one likes a Swede. Because the worst people are your neighbours.
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thotsky posted:Why did you tell your bank your life story? Just say you want to deposit some cash. Hell, you can do it on one of their machines. Large amounts of cash come from three principal sources:
Because the two first are kind of bad, there is as far as I know a lot of regulation on handling large amounts of cash which hits banks for good reasons. It's basically to avoid money laundering. The third gets unfairly targeted, I'll grant you. If you don't mind ending up on a bunch of lists of potential money launderers, one option is depositing it 1000SEK at a time. Otherwise, I have no idea, except buy an expensive thing and return it. It kind of sucks to have that much money like that nowadays. When my wife lived in Sydhavnen (old working class neighborhood in Copenhagen) for a while, a bunch of old ladies went to the post office or the bank every first of the month to withdraw their pension payout for the month. It's incredible that that made sense to them, and also that there wasn't an organised mugging gang.
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Irma was loving packed today. Also my neighbours are visiting family (like 5 households with children plus grandparents) and celebrating new years with friends. Also I notice a lot of coffee places are open, I guess coffee is groceries? Anyways, number goes up, that's a good thing, right?
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Alhazred posted:https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/bnX7qv/stavanger-krever-at-somaliere-koronatester-seg-foer-de-gaar-paa-jobb that article posted:Over 220 personer har blitt bekreftet smittet i Stavanger siden lille julaften. Flere av disse har somalisk bakgrunn. That's not potentially misleading in any way. It could be 2 people or 100, with the former probably being close to right and the latter being the intended reading. Stupid racist media. Also the timing is probably bullshit, all the Christmas visit and new year's celebration cases are not going to feature heavily enough when counting from the 23rd. If any demographic should be kept home, it's the Christmas celebraters.
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KozmoNaut posted:Profiling rich danes returning from ski vacations in Austria and demanding they get tested before leaving quarantine would have massively slowed down infection rates. Build a wall around Nordsjælland imo. Kokkedal can have a corridor.
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jeebus bob posted:The Danish right wing has been in tatters since the last election (and even quite a while before that), let's see what their largest think tank has to offer as a collective focus to get them out of the current situation: Hvor skal pengene komme fra? I know the answer is austerity, but seriously, that's just "let's lower the state's income".
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Katt posted:Might as well get rid of the inheritance tax because at least in Sweden it was something that only poor people paid before they got rid of it. So because rich people found a way to cheat, we might as well not do a reasonable thing? Why not abolish income tax with the save reasoning? I'm massively in favour of inheritance tax because inheritance by definition is getting something you didn't work for, but get just because of who your parents are. Like, when my mom dies, I'll get like 2-3 million in real estate because she lives in a house in Copenhagen. But when my (hypothetical, I don't actually have an example) friend whose parents are renters die, she gets gently caress all because her parents blew their savings (like my mom is doing).
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It's more simplified than cherry picked really. My mom obviously has a bunch of debt in the house, but it's far from 100%. And because it's hard to get new loans without a job, older people tend to actually accumulate wealth in their owned homes. And that's not counting the old idiots who think leaving an inheritance is an admirable life goal after 70. The point is that even with the debt, I get, depending on how many siblings I have, a non-trivial amount of wealth, although it is tied up in easily sellable real estate. It's even worse if you inherit a business. I don't know if it's ever been done right, but I firmly believe that it's something that should be attempted seriously. Edit: no one is against using CEPOS as fertilizer.
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There are loads of people living in houses they could never buy today. As long as I'm using my mom as an example, she bought the house in 1995 for just short of a million kroner. Not it's worth 5 million. She's a high school teacher and couldn't buy it again (expect she has the value of the current house, so she can effectively trade it in for a new place if she wants). Definitely also do tax wealth, and especially property value, even though it's political suicide. I think even liberal economists agree that tying up value in bricks is dumb as poo poo. To me, the idea of inheriting stuff that isn't keepsakes is just outmoded thinking. Really, it shouldn't be taxed, it should just not be a thing. When you die, your property gets auctioned off or something. Family can get dibs I guess.
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Real estate is like the easiest thing to tax too, because it's hard to move outside the country. I say we should tax houses so much that they won't actually accumulate wealth. Meanwhile, the Danish property tax system has been hosed for years, basically going by "whatever we estimated in the early 00s". We're getting real assessments pretty soon, but the plan is literally to have the revenue stay constant, which means lowering the tax rate. At least the poor (rich) houseowners won't have to pay more.
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Anecdotally, I worked next to the harbour in Copenhagen (Strandgade in Christianshavn for locals). Our building was next to a canal on one side and a super expensive new building overlooking the harbour on the other. There was a bit of a sport looking in through the windows, because we never saw anyone actually live there. Basically, the entire building, with a fantastic placement, was owned by rich foreigners who used it as a vacation house. This drives prices up. Also owning a skiing mansion seems like a thing in Norway, but I don't know if that actually hurts anyone since there's plenty of snowy mountains to go around.
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THE BAR posted:Give it ~20 years. loving petrostates!
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Please don't copy Bedre Balance, it's a trademark Løkke move
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Helsinki is a joke, checks out.
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Okay Mr has-the-same-name-as-a-Nazi-plane. Seriously, your arguments are that he's using the colour green and also that he did everything your kind tells immigrants to do?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:He's the #2. And also quite smart apart from the brainworms.
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Randarkman posted:So what he's saying is that he's joined the Greens because green = Islam? Technically he's founded a new green party, but yes.
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Honestly, while that clip is super funny, Messerschmidt comes out the clear winner of that sketch. As intended by Berthelsen.
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At least the actual ethnic cleansing party didn't get enough votes for Folketinget. I don't think Nye Borgerlige are explicitly in favour, but I might just have missed it.
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teen witch posted:That’s a better description of my gripes. In this day and age, not loving a good thing up completely is actually not guaranteed. Just look at the UK deciding to turn off the light of the EU or the neoliberal reforms in Denmark. Not saying we shouldn't hope for better than maintenance, but the floor is far far lower.
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SplitSoul posted:She's going to join Nye Borgerlige and instantly make them the second most popular party, calling it now. Yeah, I was gonna post "DF, NB or new party" as a response, but forgot. NB seems pretty likely, but I'm hoping for further appropriation of leftist culture by creating even more racist parties to split the vote.
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SplitSoul posted:I'm sure people were hoping for the same thing when DF originally entered the scene, but what happened was that every single other party eventually adopted their racism to some degree. Even EL voted for immigration restrictions that went into effect this year. Yeah, racism has become mainstream thanks to DF, but we did get some wasted votes on the right from Stram Kurs, and since the last election we've had a few extra right wing parties pop up. The more of them there are, the more potential wasted votes. Their politics seem like they are mostly trying to find the right balance between fig leaves, racism and neoliberalism, so they essentially represent nothing new, unlike DF of old who pioneered racism as a policy.
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Someone do an effortpost on the split in the Danish Fremskridtspartiet that lead to DF. I'm sure there are interesting parallels to current day Norway, given that Fremskridtspartiet was originally the party of not paying taxes.
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It's kinda gross calling it the British variant, as if it was somehow caused by the (admittedly terrible) British government. And it's even worse with the South African one, which lends itself to racism easily. Remember how we don't call it the Chinese virus?
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I've also worked with several right wing absolute shitheads. The worst of them, basically ticking all of the boxes about rich kids studying statskundskab with neoliberalism, Jordan Peterson and even a legit attack helicopter joke, is also one of the people I miss the most from that place, because he had a sense of humour about it and knew when to pack it up. In the helicopter instance for example, I treated him as a helicopter (no respect for personal space, knocking, attempts to open), and he quickly caught on and pulled out, all in good fun. The point is that while he definitely belongs in a gulag, he wasn't actually obnoxious about it. It's only when it becomes obnoxious it becomes a problem, having idiots around you is actually good for remembering that the SA socialist echo chamber is not representative of everyone.
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Cardiac posted:Yeah, that clearly works I mean, SA itself has changed a lot politically over the years. LF and D&D both started out pretty libertarian. The point is that you can't get a sense of whether you'll work well with someone in a 45 minute interview, and you might actually work well with the libertarian once you get to know him. I've worked amazingly with people very different from myself, but absolutely cannot cook with my wife because we're too similar and terrible. But if you only have initial chemistry to go by, you won't find out what could have been. This is why hiring is a huge gamble essentially, and part of the reason you have a tryout period in new jobs.
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fnox posted:I guess as a consequence of them not making stupid money just by being politicians, they have to make money the way regularly evil people do? Clearly the solution is to raise party leader salaries by 200% then? Or MP salaries, that's public money. It sounds super shady. Just the fact that she bought it from a stranger without going through the open market is heavily suspect. As for kebab, in willing to bet that the yearly Nørrebrogade kebabmesterskab event actually improves quality among the (serious) competitors, probably influencing others, maybe all the way to Skåne?
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