|
MiddleOne posted:There is no such candidate in the current M-top short of Västragötalands strong man Johnny Magnusson and man who flew to close to the sun Carl Bildt. Everyone else will get clowned on by both Löfven and Åkesson while being bullied by Björklund and Lööf. If there is a decent candidate within M it is someone currently residing outside of the spotlight. Watch them elect Gunnar Hökmark or something and become unpalatable for anyone not 50+ upper class male from Stockholm.
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2017 20:07
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 9, 2024 11:12 |
|
|
Anta posted:Apparently, the original route they applied for was longer and also went right past a synagogue. The police had the approved route shortened and changed. The police didn't, but a court overruled the permit that the police gave (i.e the one passing by the book con and the synagogue). The attempted breakthrough aimed at getting through the police blockade and charge the book con afaik.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 1, 2017 16:01
|
|
|
Yeah we played both sides even back in the Napoleonic Wars, so there's that as well. And we ended up with (arguably) Napoleon's Worst Marshall, the often useless Bernadotte who bungled up the invasion of Russia 1812.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 10, 2017 18:51
|
|
|
The idea was to get a pro-Napoleon king of Sweden who would retake Finland when Napoleon invaded Russia, tying up Russian troops. Instead, he sided with Russia and the Tsar could divert forces from Finland to meet the threat, afaik. Imagine the borders! But yeah, his big fuckup was Jena.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 10, 2017 21:04
|
|
|
….aaand C and L tore the rug out of Ulf's feet. He's not very good at creating a regering.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 13, 2018 14:39
|
|
|
throw to first drat IT posted:So what's the plan if nothing changes or SD gets even more seats? It could force a center-left government. The Alliance is pretty much breaking up, and the fault line is between the more liberal voters (mainly within L and C who can consider working with S, which is basically a center party at this point) and the conservative ones (mainly withing KD and M, who are comfortable with giving Jimmie a victory if it means ruling). E: so basically don't expect a re-election until we've seen M crash and burn, and then seen if S can get through a minority coalition of their own, possibly S+MP+C or S+C+L with passive support from V and MP. Both are slim chances as the number of seats are hard to reach, but at the same time a lot of parties are afraid of a re-election. For example, Bush Thoor talks a tough talk, but dare she take her chances on voting against a center government, and then see if she still has support voters in a re-election (KD famously stays under the 4% threshold between all elections but are pushed up above it by support voters who really prefer another party, but knows that the Alliance is screwed without their seats). I'm pretty sure that V could also let such a coalition through as long as it's led by S. But really, we're into uncharted territory and everyone's guessing at best. A lot of assumptions are obviously wrong, if even the party leaders (lol Ulf) can't read the tea leaves. So who knows? lilljonas fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Oct 13, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Oct 13, 2018 15:40
|
|
|
Dirk Pitt posted:This guy is upset about Steffe, yes? My bad Swedish and translate don’t get me far on this one. But I feel like I should be taking joy in the post and anger. Ann Heberlein is an (in)famous theology academic/author who went from a pretty standard liberal stuff to writing tons of anti-immigration and anti-muslim articles a few years ago. Apparently she had a bit of a meltdown, shilled for SD a ton. She ended up trying to get elected in Lund for the Moderates after publicly badmouthing their current local party leader, and lo and behold, wasn't elected. She's basically calling the liberals "Judas" for not forming a government with SD. Oh, and surprise, she's bipolar and got famous for publishing a book about her experiences living with it (which I consider a good thing and I'll still give her credit for), but it kind of also explains why she suddenly fell of a MAGA style cliff which has caused endless rows with her now quite embarrassed University employer as well as previous friends in academia. Basically the guy who supports her has THREE Swedish flags on his Twitter name, a reference to a a viking beverage, and complains that none of the Alliance parties has any testicle because they won't make a deal with the Sweden Democrats. So that tells you something about the kind of people in her corner.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 13, 2018 20:37
|
|
|
No don't you know all journalists vote for MP which means that Swedish media is left-wing activists, despite all the newspapers being owned by conservative or liberal families with editorial control, and therefore
|
|
#
¿
Oct 15, 2018 09:57
|
|
|
Randarkman posted:Isn't this essentially how Carl Johan became king of Sweden back in the early 19th century? Yes, that's the joke. Dirk Pitt posted:So Steffe couldn't get it done either and now M is back in the driver's seat if my Swedish is good enough? Well, not really. It means that Mr. Talman once more gets to decide who he'll give the task to try to create a government. It could be M who gets the ball again, but it could be someone else: for example, C has said no to both M and S, so Annie could be asked if she can do it better herself (which I doubt, but hey, it's one option). EDIT: Comedy Fasc option is that Jimmie gets it, and he forms up the brown-blue wet dream of a SD-KD-M government, with L and C folding and not actively voting against them. Yay! lilljonas fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Oct 30, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Oct 30, 2018 12:48
|
|
|
Lol 2018 is the year we just might have a vote on a Ayn Hobbit + Dweeb Hitler + Bootstraps Jesus government backed by passive support by Cock-Blocked Annie and Major Ambivalent. We'll see what the actual proposal M puts to the Riksdag next week. This will be a glorious mess. Åkesson is already saying he requires "guarantees" from M to vote for them, and Kristersson is saying that he will have no further discussions. So either SD will fold, or M will fail. And that's not counting on whether L and C will fold when their principles are actually put to the test, and it's not just talk.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 5, 2018 11:31
|
|
|
His Divine Shadow posted:Jag fattade just. Yeah but should be updated to: Thor, Ulf och Åkeson med er vi resa får Alla i samma bil tillbaka hundra år Bildt is busy fighting his own party over ditching his wife as a candidate for the next EU election. https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/val-2018/corazza-bildt-petad-efter-kampanj-fran-gubbgang/
|
|
#
¿
Nov 8, 2018 09:14
|
|
|
The feeling when you lost a vote for prime minister, but at least you managed to ruin every political alliance you have (except with the tiniest right wing party).
|
|
#
¿
Nov 14, 2018 09:49
|
|
|
MiddleOne posted:Norlen has to repeat todays shinding three more times first and he sets his own pace. He’s should give Uffe the chance to fail four times in a row. It’d be glorious.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 14, 2018 12:40
|
|
|
Cerebral Bore posted:If this clownshow continues and new elections are called, S will have a pretty strong argument that they're the only ones who can form a functioning government. I'm not sure which group will be bigger: the number of voters who will leave M for being fuckups and cuddling with SD, or L and C voters who identify as Alliance voters and blame them for not taking one for the team and joining KD and M. But the last few weeks have really put a big dent in Ulf's confident aura, where he pretty much waltzed out of a big failure of an election demanding to become prime minister. It'll be interesting to see how voters react to him, and in the longer term, if he'll get backstabbed by his own party. M is not great at handling failure.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 14, 2018 13:40
|
|
|
Mr. Sunshine posted:Dude's a four-star general. Should be hunting in full parade uniform and a Psg 90. Let's go out-law pariah state and invade Denmark over the Bälts this winter, it'll be awesome. So in one week a) Republican Congress has a horrible midterms b) Theresa May's cabinet is imploding c) Ulf Kristersson gets curbstomped in the Riksdag I'm working up an apetite for bourgoise pain that will be hard to keep up with.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 15, 2018 10:35
|
|
|
Rust Martialis posted:Sure, you'll all invade, drink one Elefant, and pass out. Fear us. We'll turn the entirety of Denmark into Strøget, filled to the brim of braying Swedish Groups of "girls night out" coteries and snus-drenched rednecks. We have become death, destroyer of culture.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 16, 2018 14:43
|
|
|
His Divine Shadow posted:Did Lars Von Trier become the hospital director? Local Moderat leader and (at that point) wife of (at that point) Prime Minister, Filippa Reinfeldt, realized that she could use the capital's health care sector as her own playground - grifting the hell out of it together with her friends in the private health care by selling out clinics way too cheap, and construction industries by giving them insanely bloated contracts without proper competition. She basically burned everything down to the ground and left Stockholm with the most expensive hospital in the world, Nya Karolinska. Despite being the most expensive hospital ever, it doesn't have things that you might think of as useful for Health care, such as water that runs in the right direction in the pipes, enough hospital beds or corridors for staff to move between rooms. Her work done, she quit and was soon employed by a huge private health care company, Aleris. This has nothing to do with Aleris earning tons and tons and tons of money on her mismanagement of Stockholm's health care. lol Her position as Aleris? To work with public relationship issues. doubel lol And we have the temerity to make fun of Americans.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 1, 2018 21:56
|
|
|
lol no government 2018. Now C has said no to pretty much every possible alternative, while also being the kingmakers. Lööf is the most efficient troll in Swedish politics right now, leading S on for weeks before saying no at the very last second..
|
|
#
¿
Dec 10, 2018 11:59
|
|
|
MRLOLAST posted:Why is there so many explosions in Malmö? It seems to happen every week. A couple of gangs who fight over drug selling turf, basically. Also an increased influx of hand grenades and bangers in the criminal infrastructure. They use young kids to place the explosives as an entry way into the gang, and then they keep on a revenge spiral and everyone gets hosed up. Pretty much 100% of all bombs have been targeted at gang members or shops/businesses who are either doing or are connected to some shady business, such as the illegal taxi trade. The internet café close to where I live that got shot up was known to have drug dealers operating there, etc. e: the most recent one was with plastic explosives though. An 18-year-old who injured himself by exploding it too early. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Dec 10, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Dec 10, 2018 15:00
|
|
|
Also famously "you can't be both Jewish and Swedish, you have to choose" Björn Söder-style monoculturalism. Hilariously enough pissing off their Finnish-Swedish members in the process. So basically they are OK with Israel killing Palestinians, but they are not ok with Jews, or anyone not prepared to 100% assimilate to what they consider Swedish Culture, living in Sweden (but they don't dare to say it openly yet, they just nudge nudge, wink wink it). lilljonas fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 29, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Dec 29, 2018 19:13
|
|
|
I have two colleagues who are local L politicians. Or were - one of them quit politics outright just a few weeks ago, and the other one partakes in increasingly heated debates with other L people on Facebook right now. I think C can survive this deal, as a smaller percentage of C voters seem to be all that ideologically motivated, but drat if L is not tearing itself apart behind the curtain right now.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 12, 2019 13:23
|
|
|
McCloud posted:So does anyone have a breakdown of what all this stuff actually means? Particularly interested in the part about ”fri hyressättning på nybyggnationer” As far as I understand it it would mean that you can hike up rent on newly built apartments, but C didn't get through the ability to hike up existing rents completely freely because of the thousands of newspaper articles about old people getting kicked out would be too much for the other parties. These deals don't seem to be all too detailed yet, as they are presented as "preliminary".
|
|
#
¿
Jan 12, 2019 13:33
|
|
|
Zombiepop posted:C voters should be happy with this, but no one across the political spectrum seems to like this. It's basically a turd sandwich for S as well, and V should be able to gain several percentages of voters from them. L seems to be divided into two factions now, A: "Our main enemy should always be socialism and we should rebel against the party leadership" B: "Holy poo poo you morons if we get a new election this spring we'll be out of the Riksdag so we must do anything, ANYTHING, to avoid it." The people within L claiming that collaborating with ultra-conservatives and nationalists being against some kind of liberal ideal seems curiously missing. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jan 12, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jan 12, 2019 14:02
|
|
|
Zombiepop posted:Oh great...I guess the new service center building stuff thingy reform whatever will take over arbetsförmedlingens duties. Many offices outside the major cities will be shut down and replaced with private contractors, because gently caress it. Let's ignore that privatizations of this kind rarely work. I saw it mentioned that of 4500 jobs axed, 4000 will be outside the HQ in Stockholm, so expect a ton of local offices in smaller towns to be shut down completely.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 30, 2019 15:17
|
|
|
I'm of two minds with the Arbetsförmedlingen issue. On one hand, yes: Arbetsförmedlingen needed to change, as it was gradually turned into a New Public Managment nightmare where administrating reasons to control people on the dole became a larger part of their mission, and actually finding available job and matching them with people became a smaller one. This led to a lot of unproductive administrative work that probably could be removed without that much negative effects. On the other hand, just saying "lol cut down all small town offices and leave it up to private contractors, because they did such a great job with jobcoaching and Fas 3" is not a good solution. Also, keep in mind that a lot of computer-literate younger people think that Arbetsförmedlingen sucks at doing their job. Myself included, when I had to deal with them. It's because their mission has been, as well, to focus a ton of their time and effort to helping those who are furthest from the job market, while doing very little for the rest. I leave it unsaid whether or not they actually did a good job with those people (for the people I know it's been a mixed bag). But again I think that a better solution would be to tone down the NPM monitoring part of the agency, rather than knee-capping it and hoping that the free market won't use it as a pile of free money (they will).
|
|
#
¿
Feb 1, 2019 11:54
|
|
|
teen witch posted:I’m a filthy American pig who has lived in Sweden for almost three years, and one thing that consistently confuses me is what the gently caress is up Denmark’s rear end? Between the above, the NYT article about the wild rear end treatment of rape victims, and its immigrations politics and policies, what is the loving deal? Sweden has issues, all countries do, but Denmark just seems so needlessly cruel at times. As a Swede, Danish politics looks like a bunch of people dressed in full-on nazi uniforms, putting brown skinned immigrants in prison camps while sneering and pointing out how much more liberal and free-thinking they are than those self-censored PC Swede social democratic cucks.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 6, 2019 10:39
|
|
|
Today's shocking turn of events: Center Party MP Eskil "Looks Like a Creepy Perv" Erlandsson turns out to be, well, a creepy perv - is kicked out of Riksdagen by his party for groping MPs from the Moderates.  "Får man känna lite? Tackar tackar, tackar tackar" Really, that's the picture he himself has chosen as his PR pic.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 7, 2019 19:32
|
|
|
Cardiac posted:So L Wikström have been exposed as a money hungry EU bureaucrat, another L in riksdagen have been exposed for paying 500kSek in combined rent to her husband and now C Erlandsson is a perv. The Liberals were always poo poo, but breaking old alliances sure can lead to interesting dirt being laundered. With their pretty unimpressive line-up for new party leader, they sure have work to do if they want to clear 4% in next election.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 7, 2019 19:45
|
|
|
It seems that the guy actually holding SD together, Mattias Karlsson, is quitting his job as gruppledare for the party. Apparantly spending all that time cleaning up after the messes of various SD bigwigs eventually became too much.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 13, 2019 15:06
|
|
|
Some skadegläde while slowly sliding into hellworld: Ulf Kristersson's M is now polling worse than AKB's M did when she was unceremoniously kicked out by her party.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 30, 2019 06:51
|
|
|
Cardiac posted:Does that actually matter since those voters are currently going KD instead of M? It one way it doesn't matter. But in the larger scheme of things it matters in that it follows a current trend with large parties that historically led coalitions being weakened, and you see that in more countries than Sweden. S are also slowly losing votes. With M as weak as they've been lately, they're much less likely to be able to create a consensus for political ideas on the right wing. Compared the current climate to the Alliansen heydays when they basically strongarmed a lot of the parties to only try to influence specific areas that M didn't care as much about. So you'd have Kd pretty much only talk about pensioners, Liberals only talking about education, etc. M keeps retreating into an area where their competition is either more established (Sd) or more charismatic (EBT being far more popular among populists than the grumpy and uncomfortable Ulf). They're risking becoming more and more irrelevant. So what's their big political push for the European elections? "Hey here's Tobé saying that we need much fewer immigrants!". Great, the people you're trying to attract already prefer Sd and Kd, and all you're doing is pushing away the few remaining who doesn't agree on leaving traditional M policy in favour of anti-immigrant rhetorics.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 30, 2019 09:26
|
|
|
Katt posted:Aren't you entitled to 5 minutes of "pause" per hour of work? Not specifically, but kind of. The part in the law that's specific is a longe break that must be available within five hours of the start of your work day. Basically a lunch break or similar, which means that you can't force someone to work non-stop for eight hours. The part about short breaks are a bit more vague. However, that's before taking into account what's written in your kollektivavtal, which in Sweden is where a lot of your actual work enviroment rules are covered. You can't decide what people do on their breaks. This will never be implemented, it's just empty sabre-rattling to satisfy racist voters. It's from the SD heartland, and clear signal politics. It's not even meant to be implemented, just a way to shout "vote for SD if you hate muslims". From Unionen: "Enligt arbetstidslagen ska en arbetstagare ha en rast senast efter 5 timmars arbete. Själva lagen säger ingenting om hur lång rasten ska vara, men enligt arbetsmiljöverkets riktlinjer ska rastens längd vara minst 30 minuter. Unionen anser att rasten bör vara omkring 60 minuter. Rast innebär att du inte står till arbetsgivarens förfogande, det vill säga du har rätt att lämna arbetsstället, stänga av telefonen och inte behöva vara tillgänglig. Rasten räknas inte in i arbetstiden. Utöver rasterna har du rätt till kortare avbrott från arbetet det vill säga pauser. Då har du inte automatiskt rätt att lämna arbetsplatsen. Pauser räknas in i arbetstiden. Längden på och omfattningen av pauserna är inte reglerat i lagen mer än skyldigheten för arbetsgivaren att organisera arbetet, så att arbetstagaren kan ta de pauser som behövs utöver rasterna." lilljonas fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jun 12, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jun 12, 2019 11:37
|
|
|
I don't work in politics, but I work in an organization that is politically directed. It has made it a lot more apparent to me just how often you can't just act on good intentions and ideology. Sometimes the end result of doing what is ideologically pure will have a worse end effect, and sometimes there are barriers constricting your actions that are not obvious to an outsider. It sucks, but it's not always the best way forward to "do the right thing" 100% of the time. And yes, I'd say that a leader for a political party sometimes needs to act in the way that maximizes long term political influence, rather than what is "the right thing" - if doing "the right thing" means a smaller long term influnce on society. It's a tricky balancing act, comparing the long term effects vs. the short term effects, and I don't envy those who have to make those decisions. Again, the issues that seems so easy and simple as an onlooker are often a lot more complex once you're inside the organization that has to make the decisions. That said - sometimes politicians just gently caress it all up. But most often there's more to the story.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 19, 2019 14:18
|
|
|
Nah, it's good to put forward your views, even though it might be more effective to write an e-mail, not send it, go back an hour later and re-read it, and then send it. However, then it's up to the party leadership to weigh all the hundreds of pros and cons against each other. Think of it like this: if V didn't exist, S would be far further to the center today. And if people on the left half of V didn't complain when V takes the easy way out, V would take the easy way out more often. Complaining has an effect, just not all the time and not always in the short term.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 19, 2019 19:57
|
|
|
Wild Horses posted:i thought OS in every form is basically a net loss no matter who hosts it. so why is this being pushed now? Basically. Every Olympics since 1960 has been a net loss for the host. But a huge income for a bunch of companies and corrupted officials, depending on country. LA made a profit as a city, but it was because noone else bid that year, so they got unusually good terms. Look here for some hilarious charts regarding projected cost vs actual cost of Olympic games. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/economics-hosting-olympic-games It's helpful to see the entire process as a grift scheme where both public officials and private companies can use the games as an excuse to rob public funding in plain sight. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jun 24, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jun 24, 2019 11:05
|
|
|
Stockholm's infrastructure is the worst. I go there for work a lot and if there's even a minor event such as a pop concert or a dentist convention or whatever, hotels will be booked full. Congrats to staying in Eskilstuna instead. And the main stations are congested to hell and back during rush hour and everything is in a constant state of reconstruction. And the trains break down constantly. Olympic games is the last thing that clusterfuck of bottlenecks need. Building a city on a bunch of tiny islands is great if you're a medieval lord and scared of invasions but terrible if you're a modern city. Also, in today's politics: founder of the Facebook group "Stand up for Sweden" is found guilty of hets mot folkgrupp. Couldn't happen to a more detestable bunch of nazi neanderthals - good riddance.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 25, 2019 10:42
|
|
|
Cardiac posted:Well, Ullenhag was going to be a nail in the coffin, so in that sense Sabuni is probably a better choice for L. Sabuni has a tough position if she's going to try to muscle into a position among the more hard right borgerliga, between M, SD and KD. What's her USP going to be? Basically the liberals are already leaving L for C, and "muslims should integrate more goddammit"-voters have already left for SD or KD, and "I just hate Social democrats"-voters have left for M. Also, she was pretty mediocre at best as a minister. You can't always tell how good someone will be as a party leader based on that, however. I was tangentally affected by her role as vice minister of education, back when she had a very broad portfolio, and my experience was that she was a pretty single note minister who ignored most of her portfolio and just focused on her own hobby horses. Maybe she's gotten better since then, or maybe she'll bog down into a single issue party leader. We'll see.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 27, 2019 14:44
|
|
|
Zombiepop posted:How the gently caress are you people still talking about this? Yall like to forbid stuff, we get it. It obviously impossible to talk to you guys/gals about this, you have actually continue this derail with a lot of circle jerk. Its been like 3 pages now, we get it, can we get back to politics now? This last page has been the most swedes.txt I have ever seen. Card-carrying LUF member identified. It's summer. There's gently caress all going on in politics, except for KD and SD making out behind the barn. Not even Sabuni taking over L makes any waves, as she hasn't said anything about what she plans to do with the party.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 16, 2019 09:59
|
|
|
The biggest lol in the entire story is Americans trying to wrap their little heads around the idea of ministerstyre being against the law. Their entire poltical system revolves around the idea of nepotism and political abuse, the very idea of that being a huge taboo (as long as it's not done hush-hush behind the curtains) is so alien to them that they just can't figure it out. But no, Trump and Kanye is on the case, they're gonna solve this.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 21, 2019 22:32
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 9, 2024 11:12 |
|
|
Wild Horses posted:yeah but how can it be MORE EXPENSIVE to buy large amounts (very large amounts) of coffee at the same time, every week, every month? It's a scam that companies for some weird reason always fall for. Maybe it's laziness? There's a Office Depot shop in town that mainly caters to companies, which means that everything they sell is extremely overpriced. As in 10 SEK for an eraser and 50 SEK for a box of ginger bread cookies around Christmas, when you can get the same for 15 in any food store in town. It should not exist, but it does. It's the same at my office. They're paying 3 or 4 times as much for everything compared to a supermarket, be it soap or fruit, just to have it delivered. It's insane, but somehow it's a common thing. E: another company scam - fruit baskets. Sell them to offices at a flat rate all across the year. Then just cram it full of the fruit that is the cheapest currently. That's why we end up with mostly oranges and apples most of the time in ours. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Oct 6, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2019 10:29
|
|