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Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

McCloud posted:

:wtf:

OF all the strange things to make an issue out of, they want to subsidize pork and force kids to eat it. If anything they should be forcing kids to eat more vegan food.

Muslims. Add muslims to the mix and it makes sense. A Moustache twirling evil kind of sense.

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Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Too much foodchat ITT.

Let's talk about Miljöpartiet. They have now betrayed pretty much all of their core issues. No nuclear power exit in sight, Vattenfalls coal mines are sold and our borders are tighter than Tupacs first rap album. They didn't do that very good back in 2014, how will they do now with all the broken promises and purges to slow them down? Will we see the end of MP and F! taking their role as the small party filled with oddballs?

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
An impenetrable force field to place between Russia and its neighbors is an acceptable substitute if dimensional travel proves too hard.

Noshtane fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jul 6, 2016

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Let Stockholm stagnate and rot from within. When the employers are forced to to move jobs elsewhere due to lack of office space and affordable living, then politicians might feel motivated to both fix the rotten mess that is Stockholm housing and acknowledge that there is more to Sweden than the three big cities.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Biomute posted:

Cities are where the people, goods and culture are. The complaints in this thread are legitimate, but there really is not much to our countries outside the major cities. What is your ideal world, one where we all live in small communes and have to drive for hours to get to the goth club / asian food import store / concert venue / good restaurant? gently caress that, I wanna be able to jump onto public transport for a few minutes if I am going to work or if I need something.

You are perfectly able to do those things in Umeå for example and for a fraction of the cost of living compared to Stockholm.
It is not a human right to live in Stockholm, if you are unable to live there, Norrland is capable of sustaining life and it is not to be considered cruel and unusual treatment to live there as much of a surprise it may seem to many of you.
My proposal is to let Stockholm rot and focus on improving the smaller cities, they would actively support it unlike the population of Stockholm who seems to disdain any kind of change or attempt to improve anything.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Zudgemud posted:

Landsbygden looks great though, too bad about the "no job prospects for 95% of people with university degrees" thing.


Zudgemud posted:

The general job opportunities are pretty bad in Umeå region compared to the Stockholm region though, especially if you are two adults with university degrees. And it is only logical that companies locate themselves close to sources of labor and logistics hubs unless they are directly involved in natural resource extraction. The fact that the bulk of the population will have no established social network in place and might have an issue with the whole "more cold and darkness" will also contribute in making it a harder sell in Umeå's case.


That depends on what your degree is.
There is an endless demand for engineers, doctors, nurses, teachers, social workers and what have you. Economists, gender science, philosophy and other types of studies that lends itself better to research, not so much.
Of course you won't have the same buffet of opportunities as in Stockholm, not by a long shot but you won't go hungry either.
What you will have is a large house with a garage, 20 minutes drive from the city for the same price of what you would pay for a decent apartment in Stockholm.
The social bit can be a bit hard but it hasn't stemmed the tide of people moving to Stockholm. If a yokel from the northern frontier can survive socially in Stockholm, why can not a Stockholmer survive in Umeå?

As it is, the prospects of a pair of students with fresh exams wanting to start a family is Stockholm is poor.
Personally I believe that not a market crash nor a building boom will solve the housing situation. There are untold numbers of people stashed away in parents basements, guest rooms, on sofas, in third hand contract apartments or heaven forbid even in Norrland, saving up cash desperately waiting for either to happen. They hopelessly believe that when the crash/boom happens they will be the one to snag one of those delicious four room apartments at Östermalm or wherever.
Then we have rich Europeans dreaming of a home in the socialist paradise of Stockholm competing for the living space and poor refugees that also has to be placed in the big city region because it is apparently cruel and unjust to place them elsewhere if the posters of this thread are to be believed.
There is simply not enough housing available, nor is it feasible to outbuild the demand.
The only real answer is to make the rest of Sweden more attractive to live in or Stockholm less attractive. That would relieve the current pressure on the Stockholm housing market.
Failing that you could force snobby stockholmers at the point of a bayonet to live ten years in Glommersträsk.
That would free up some housing.


skipThings posted:

and never know the sweet touch of the sun for a few months

That would put some steel into your body.
The soft luxury of constant access to sun has made you weak.

Noshtane fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 18, 2017

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

TheFluff posted:

no tho
cars killed rural sweden

Cars IS rural Sweden.
The Volvo 740 converted to a cab with an angle grinder and racing stripes made with paint rollers is the physical manifestation of the spirit that keeps places like Lycksele alive.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Rust Martialis posted:

You basically just confirmed that your preferred metaphor for being subservient is sucking dick. You don't see the blatant homophobia in the association there? Seriously?

You just insulted a group by calling them a bunch of dick suckers, and therefore subservient. But no, you're not implying *anything* about gays. Noooooooo. Mere coincidence.

Isn't it kind of sexist to assume that the ones in power doing the halal dick sucking are men?
Sucking dick isn't necessarily a purely homosexual act and I'm sure there are a depressing number of female politicians in Denmark who are whole heartedly on board with the Saudi rear end kissing.

e: Beaten to the dick sucking punch.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Since when has the accusation of sucking dick been implying that someone is gay? I've always thought it was a sexist choice of words more than anything. More than once has the phrase "How many dicks did she have to suck to get there?" been uttered by less successful, sexist men when confronted with a successful female in a position of power. There is a lot of sexism behind the accusation of being a dick sucker.
If the slur has an origin in homophobia, that's news to me.
Still, there is a point in not calling others a dick sucker, sexism is hardly better than homophobia.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Party Plane Jones posted:

hello scandinavians please tell me which liquor from your home country i should drink while reading the reports from this thread

I think Gammel Dansk would be in order.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Gammel Dansk is a terrible Danish taste, perfect when reading terrible Danish shitposts.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Punsch is strictly necessary when consuming ärtsoppa & pannkakor. If you drink punsch without ärtsoppa & pannkakor you are probably a top-hat wearing wholesaler who talks about how to further exploit the workers with your fellow capitalists.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

KozmoNaut posted:

If they ever get any real power and responsibility, they'll crash and burn.

Racist fucks were never the left's traditional base.

You'd be amazed or rather amazingly depressed over how common it is to find incredibly racist and narrow minded views among staunch S voters and union members in smaller communities throughout Sweden. Head up to the far north and ask about Sami people if you want to lose faith in humanity and your will to live.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Beeswax posted:

AfS will most likely poll under 1% and then split into warring factions like its predecessors on the rightmost fringe, ND and SvP. But in these interesting times, I'd rather not be quoted on this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It will be a fun repeat of history when the extremist fringe fractures again and again over who's more ideologically pure, only this time the (r) will stand for Rasisterna.

I hoped that AfS would have taken at least 2% off SD but having them fade into obscurity and infighting is good too.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger

Zudgemud posted:

In my experience it's not necessarily hunters that want to get rid of the wolves (most don't seem to care) but people living in rural areas that don't feel safe knowing that there are wolves in the woods where they walk with their dog/kids/grandparents etc. I mean the hypocrisy of many city dwellers is painfully obvious when some big city suburb flip their poo poo about a single wolf being sighted in their municipality, and great effort is made to track down and relocate or kill that single wolf.

Hunters care a great deal about the wolf issue, to the exclusion of many more important issues. It is annoying as gently caress that a relative non-issue as the wolves get all the attention while things such as the non functional gun licensing system, the moose conflict with the forest industry, the conflicts with anti hunting groups or any of the other more important issues get little to no attention at all.

The poll in Svensk Jakt puts the wolf at 42% as the most important issue for the next government to deal with. The next biggest at 23% is the gun laws, something that destroys hunting shops throughout rural Sweden, has costed hunters tons of money and ruined hunting seasons for god knows how many hunters with endless waiting times for licenses.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
The wolf has been ascribed an almost mythological status, like a half demon, roaming the forest, killing, moose, dogs, children and hunters alike. Even up here in the parts of Västerbotten where there hasn't been a wolf for over a decade, hunters spend the better part of every break in the hunt discussing how bad the wolf is and how bad we need to exterminate them.

It's extra fun to hear people hate on wolves when hunting boar seeing how dangerous boars are to the dogs and it's especially delicious when there are dog owners present who refuse to equip their dogs with stab proof vests because "the dog needs to learn to stay away from the tusks".

Having to listen to the lovely opinions of your average hunter is a a big part of why I gave up moose for bird hunting, up in the mountains I don't have to listen to their poo poo at every fika.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Don’t they need V onboard to pull this off? Will V really sit idle and accept that C is given a free reign to take a hammer to Arbetsrätten?

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
V really should drop the entire deal though. They are now the only true leftist party in the Riksdag, S abandoning everything they hold dear. It makes no sense for them to accept a government that has explicitly stated that V is to be kept from any form form of influence while C can take a huge dump on Arbetsrātten.

Re-election might not be the ideal situation but V will have a much better chance trying to pull S left in a Riksdag with a decimated C and no L at all.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Looking at the promises made to C&L, almost everything is to be placed in Utredning with vague dates on when the reforms are supposed to be implemented. What prevents S from burying everything unsavory in a quagmire of inquires headed by union people who are bound to come to the conclusion that the whole idea is bad and to be abandoned?

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Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
I predict that we'll see a "Look what you made me do, I voted for a M-KD government and it's ALL your fault V!" from Annie the moment S starts to even discuss altering the anti-V sections in the deal.

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