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V. Illych L. posted:at the moment the norwegian press has apparently decided that erna solberg is "obviously" telling the truth about this all being her mean ole husband's fault, which is loving bonkers. we cannot take it on faith that the highest office in the land is being hoodwinked by her husband doing egregious financial crimes and bringing in nearly two million kroner over her period as prime minister! it's ridiculous I enjoyed the comments press got from her and her husband when this broke, which make it very clear that neither of them are expecting him to be punished in any way, as long as he says he's sorry and promises to do better. quote:"Det gør mig ondt, at jeg er nødt til at være så hård mod Sindre, som jeg er i dag" Living that consequence free life  Unrelated, the crackdown on Christiania is going well, I'm sure glad the politicians and cops are keeping us safe from the Devil's weed. https://politiken.dk/indland/art952...i-hele-ansigtet Paywalled, but you get the gist from the headline.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Denmark's 9/11. I get that it makes sense to pay a high tax if e.g. you have a huge property in the middle of town and you're preventing development of the land, but some of the plots they're talking about here are borderline rural or on the outskirts of town. It doesn't seem like they're taking into account whether building apartment buildings on the land would actually make sense, it sounds like they're just looking at whether the zoning technically allows for it.
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SplitSoul posted:Everyone's just going completely mask off at the moment. The reaction by most of our politicians to this weekend, and the coverage by our media makes it clear that the liberals are ready for a Solution to the Palestinian Problem. Mette Frederiksen continues her streak of being wrong on literally every issue. Her government is pausing aid to Palestine, and openly airing the idea of cutting it permanently. I guess a degree in Africa Studies doesn't cover South Africa.
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Alhazred posted:It's almost like something happened during the previous decade that made it difficult to defend people that shoots unarmed teenagers during an event.  Some people have a tendency to forget the everyday violence, and only remember the unusual events. Hamas shoots some ravers? Scandal. Israel bombs the poo poo out of residential areas? Meh, been done. Esran fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Oct 12, 2023 |
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It doesn't matter. Palestine has been down that road. Being submissive and peacefully agitating for peace only ever got them a less visible genocide. You are going to have some people wringing their hands about any revolt, no matter what it looks like.
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The social democrat dismantling of the welfare state continues. https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/flertal-indfoerer-37-timers-arbejdspligt-kontanthjaelpsmodtagere quote:Vi ønsker at sende et meget klart signal om, at når man kommer til Danmark, så forventer vi noget af dig, og så skal du arbejde, hvis du på nogen måde kan At least they're solving a real problem, and not just getting together with the other nazi parties to poo poo on immigrants for no reason quote:I et notat fra beskæftigelesministeriet, som DR har set, anslås det, at 300 fuldstidspersoner vil komme i beskæftigelse som følge af aftalen. Also lol, rip young people who might want to travel quote:Man bliver omfattet af arbejdspligten, hvis man ikke opfylder to krav: Et krav om at have opholdt sig i Danmark i 9 ud af de seneste 10 år, og et krav om fuldtidsbeskæftiglse i 2,5 af de seneste 10 år.
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Last time they discussed doing this, some journalists talked to one of the people this is targeting. That person had been a social worker who was assaulted at work, and quit as a result. When she tried to get her case worker to help her find another job in her field, the case worker wasn't really interested, and suggested she should work as a cleaning lady. The cruelty is the point. Racists would be doing this no matter what they knew. There's a huge focus in this proposal on making sure everyone understands this is about "non-western" immigrants. The law gives the nazis what they want, and also fits in well with Mette Frederiksens ethos of "the purpose of your life is to provide labor". A true bipartisan achievement 
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SplitSoul posted:Mads Brügger is accusing Arbejderen of being in favor of holocausting Israel. Brave words from a man who vociferously supported Dan Park. The political class and the collaborationist press are supporting an ongoing genocide, logical consistency is pretty far down on the list of problems. Sartre pointed out that arguing with these people is pointless. They are well aware that their arguments are facile. They're just trying to suppress dissent. And when words don't work, they'll try to intimidate people, or pull a France and criminalize dissent outright. Denmark has laws on the books criminalizing "approval of terrorism". K have already been opining that showing support for Hamas should fall under these laws.
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Literally the reason given for voting against it was "But it doesn't condemn Hamas". Our politicians are dogs.
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Fully on brand. Her only guiding principle is sucking up to the US, so of course she'd love Kissinger. If it weren't for Fogh, I'd say she's the worst leader we've had in the last several decades.
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No worries, Danish ships are purely decorative, they can't actually shoot.
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Inferior Third Season posted:1000 liters of milk just got delivered that I don't remember ordering. It's all yogurt Rust Martialis posted:The Houthi seem, on the evidence I have seen at hand, been committing acts that are breaches of international law, if not acts of war. My primary objection is that they have targeted ships flagged and owned by countries other than Israel that were not even headed there. The often repeated claim they only attacked ships owned, operated or headed to Israel seems to be quite obviously false. In that context, Denmark sending a ship when at least *two* Maersk ships have already been attacked is about as *surprising* as a grey day in Copenhagen in January. Your earlier post complained about moralists and legalists not communicating properly, so I'll try to split this into two parts for your convenience: Legally, you're absolutely right that Ansar Allah are breaking international law, if you consider these attacks to be random piracy. However, the genocide convention requires all signatories to "prevent and to punish" genocide. Declaring war and enacting a trade blockade are both completely reasonable (and legal) tools to achieve that. Whether you believe AA are attacking randomly and using the genocide as a pretext, or are simply not equipped to always be accurate in target selection largely comes down to your personal bias. I'd point to AA's past behavior though: In 2019 they boarded South Korean ships, verified that the crews were South Korean (and not Saudi), and then let them go. That seems like a weird behavior for pirates. Morally, Denmark's stance on Israel is indefensible, and we are with the absolutely most generous interpretation allowing a genocide to happen. A less generous interpretation is that we're actively defending the perpetrators (and in the case of Sweden, directly harming the victims by defunding the UNRWA, based on "intelligence" the genocidal state has produced). The Houthi attacks on shipping have substantially reduced traffic into Eilat, putting economic pressure on Israel. Even if you believe AA are just pirates in it for themselves, it is immoral that our state is prioritizing stopping the crime of attacks on international shipping (and as a side effect relieving pressure on Israel), when the much greater crime of genocide is left unaddressed. Rust Martialis posted:You can't have a rational discussion with someone who isn't interested in being rational. This comes off as you not understanding that you have an ideological standpoint and biases, like everyone else, and that people who do not hold opinions similar to yours are not simply being irrational. I hope that is not what you mean.
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Rust Martialis posted:At this point I think this topic has more than run its course in this thread, and I'm not interested in responding to cheap shots here that seem to have started. Then you should probably stop posting about it, instead of trying to get the last word.
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Welcome to limescale country. You can get a bottle of vinegar or one of these https://huma.dk/minuskalk-afkalker (descaler) at most supermarkets. "Kalkfjerner" or "Afkalker" are the words to look for. On the bright side, you don't need to buy milk or take calcium supplements. Esran fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Feb 18, 2024 |
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Don Rosa's stuff really is fantastic. It's too bad Disney treats their artists so poorly
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Pedo solidarity https://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2024-02-23-tidligere-s-minister-forsvarer-fonseca It's incredible how many of these idiots think it is wrong and unheard of to lose a position of authority without being convicted in a court of law. Pretty sure my boss can fire me without proving a crime. Also just the biggest brain quote:Den officielle årsag til Moderaternes eksklusion var, at Mike Fonsecas forhold forbrød sig mod Moderaternes adfærdskodeks, der tilsiger, at man ikke må have seksuelle relationer med folk under 18 år.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:In what world was Germany attacked? The bombings happened within the Danish and Swedish EEZ. The pipeline is German infrastructure. quote:Myndighederne kan på baggrund af efterforskningen konkludere, at der var tale om forsætlig sabotage af gasledningerne Just stellar police work. Thank God they finally confirmed the facts:
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Not talking about where the company was incorporated. A Buttery Pastry posted:I will never grant Germany territorial rights in Danish waters, no matter how much money they spent. That's not what I mean. I'm not saying the site of the attack was in some way German land. The pipeline belonged to, and directly benefited, Russia, Germany and a number of other countries. I think it's fair to say that an attack on the pipeline is an attack on those countries.
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jeebus bob posted:Grow up You should read that article SplitSoul linked. This was a deeply lovely dude. If he was your personal friend, I can see being sad, but I don't see any reason everyone else should rend their garments. Here's what Pape thought of the genocide, some twenty thousand Palestinian corpses in: He wanted to propagandize schoolchildren because young people don't support Israel. quote:Jeg får beskeder, der tager udgangspunkt i, at Israel brutalt myrder civile, og at vi alle lukker øjnene for dette, særligt når Israel er en besættelsesmagt, der har taget palæstinensernes land. Jeg har ikke tal på, hvor ofte jeg hører dette. Det har fået mig til at tænke, at enten er historieløsheden total, eller også har nogle en helt anden dagsorden, der handler om, at Israel ikke længere skal eksistere. He states that Palestinians have no right to the land, because it belonged to the British who stole it from the Ottoman Empire, and so on. It's free real estate, a victimless crime really. quote:Jeg tror desværre, at virkeligheden er den, at mange (primært) yngre tror, at staten Israel blev dannet med verdenssamfundets accept, og at man for at give jøderne deres eget land efter Anden Verdenskrig tog et land, Palæstina, og gav det til jøderne. Det lyder i debatten, som om mange faktisk tror det. Ikke noget med, at det faktisk før Israels oprettelse var et britisk mandat og så videre. Hvis man så aktivt advokerer for, at et land er stjålet fra nogle andre, får man hurtigt skabt en offerfortælling. Vi må og skal have nuanceret og gjort klart for alle unge (og alle andre), hvordan historien rent faktisk er. Just completely unsubstantiated propaganda claims about the war crimes Hamas are doing, and how that justifies whatever Israel feels like doing in response. I'll remind you, this was published in December. This is not some fog of war thing, everyone knows at this point what Israel is doing. quote:Men husk nu, at Hamas ikke spiller efter reglerne. De gemmer sig blandt civile og bruger civile som skjold. De er kyniske, ondskabsfulde og mennesker uden hjerte, som er fuldstændig ligeglade med deres egen befolkning i Gaza. Hamas må og skal udryddes. Der findes ikke en fredelig løsning med Hamas. That little ending note is ridiculous asscovering, in light of when this was posted. Pape knew very well that Israel was doing a genocide at this point.
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A German state did that recently, and if I know one thing about Inger Støjberg, it's that she really loves German ideas.
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jeebus bob posted:Which one and did it hold up in court? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/06/germany-israel-citizenship-requirement/
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Mymla posted:In what loving universe does it take 6+ years to drive from sweden to finland? Now now, you don't want to disrespect the dead by being hasty. The Swedish Entmoot needs to deliberate for a bit longer. quote:In 2023, the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs informed Helsingin Sanomat that the goal is to return the skulls "in a legally safe and respectful manner as soon as possible."
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SplitSoul posted:Dragsted wants EL in government. Seems like a recipe for success. Now, let me just take a big sip of water and see how that all went for SF... Don't think it would change much, EL already has no moral fiber. https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/pelle-dragsted-beskriver-partifaellers-forslag-om-palaestina-som-forfaerdeligt
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BonHair posted:Basically, I don't think getting socialist thought made into policy is possible in the current political landscape, no matter if the left party goes hard or soft. This is probably true, but that doesn't make EL's both-sides'ing of a genocide any less contemptible. There is a lot of public support for Palestine, so even from a cynical perspective, they should probably try to capture that. On Rwanda, I think we all know what it looks like when a party collaborates with the people building camps to try to moderate their behavior. It's unlikely that Corbyn could have avoided being accused of antisemitism, look at how that accusation is slung around by Zionists at anyone that even implies Palestinians might be people. EL should not try to moderate in fear of that label, they're going to get slapped with it unless they offer full throated support for Israel. Esran fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 5, 2024 |
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I don't know why you think "you don't have the might to force your solution through" should be a factor when deciding a party's direction. I guess this must make support for a two-state solution equally ridiculous? Getting Israel to accept that would also require military force. If that's your standard, every party should just go ahead and be fully in favor of genocide, because none of them have the hardware to force Israel or the US to stop. The creation of Israel was not a "mistake" that well-intentioned people just happened to make by accident either. edit: Would you have said the same if this was a party calling for the end of Apartheid in 1980? I don't think they had the guns to force SA to do that. Esran fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 6, 2024 |
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KozmoNaut posted:Unlike a lot of other people, I don't pretend to have simple solutions to ridiculously complex issues. Yeah, it's just so complex. The settler colonialist project with the goal of establishing a racist pureblood utopia and putting Jews at the top of a racial hierarchy can't just end, and wanting that is just too reductive. Thank God you're so smart that you see through such demagoguery. We should instead listen to the good liberals who will explain the nuances of genocide and why the existence of the colonial ethnostate that's less than a century old is sancrosanct. Edit: You can make this facile argument to oppose making literally any change to the status quo. Almost any substantial change is complex. That doesn't preemptively make the goal invalid. I assume in your view, people were fools to want Apartheid to end, because I'm sure that was a ridiculously complex issue as well? Esran fucked around with this message at 18:39 on May 7, 2024 |
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KozmoNaut posted:I see, so everyone in Israel is directly complicit and evil? Really? You know when people say DTI, they're not talking about killing all Israelis, right? What people generally mean when they talk about the dissolution of Israel in favor of a secular Palestinian state is not that they support the ethnic cleansing of the region, it's that a two-state solution is unrealistic, so the Zionist project should be ended in favor of a shared secular state in which present-day Palestinians and present-day Israelis can live. (Not saying that this is all that realistic either, but the two-state solution is completely dead, Palestine can't survive with Israel as a neighbor) This misunderstanding is why you're getting such strong reactions. KozmoNaut posted:Edit: perhaps you should try not immediately resorting to demonizing people over slight disagreements. I'm not demonizing you. You've expressed the opinion that it is wrong or bad or laughable to call for the end of Israel. I'm trying to explain to you why you're wrong to feel that way, why your reasoning is bad, and asking you to think about how that opinion will age, considering the exact same argument could have been made in favor of Apartheid. And I might be making fun of you a little bit because "Unlike a lot of other people, I don't pretend to have simple solutions to ridiculously complex issues." comes off as incredibly smug. Esran fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 7, 2024 |
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 You are saying that it's ridiculous or wrong to call for Israel to be abolished. Israel is the Zionist project. If your objection is that you'd rather have EL put "Work to end the Zionist project" in their party program, then I don't think anyone would object. They mean the same thing. To me, putting "abolish the state of Israel" in a political program is similar to putting "abolish Apartheid" in a political program. I doubt a Danish political party will accomplish it, but it's good to know where they stand.
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