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Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
For time to time someone raises the question. Why not a new Kalmar Union?
Personally i don`t think that is good idea, plus it is redundant since we are all under tyrannical thumb of Brussels anyway.
On the other hand who will avenge the crimes of the Greedy Hansa against the Nordic kingdoms if not us? The North remembers.

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Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Its okay but nothing special. It`s a bit tricky to cook it rigth. It can taste like a acceptable steak or like a piece of leather dipped in codliver oil.
But i have no ethical problem with eating it so long as the hunting is kept at a sustainable level. Flesh is flesh.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
This year it became possible to change your legal gender in Norway by request. No need to provide a reason. Just inform the population register and it`ll get done. I agree with that. It was not decent to demand people get castrated before they could change their legal gender.

But now we have to rethink out where and when gender should have legal consequences. In particular this applies to the various types of mild positive discimination to help women get into academia, the military and various male dominated professions. Do we tweak these policies so that you can only benefit from them if you were assigned "female" at birth? Do we require that you have to outwardly appear as a woman for a certain amount of time ( say 5 years for example). Or do we say gently caress it and hope for the best? Remove them completely because gender is a false construct that we are now offically over and done with?

I am sure there are other areas where your legal gender matters that will require a rethink now that anyone can have it changed.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Lets for the sake of argument presume it does become an issue to the point where positive discrimination becomes clearly less effective. What then?

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Thats migthy dull of you.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Ilustforponydeath posted:

LO and UNIO spoke vehemently against making a gender-neutral equality law on march 8th, demanding that positive discrimination won't be applicable for anyone joining the wrong side.

I did not know that was even a proposition. What are you feelings? Is it awesome or a bummer to strip FTMèrs of the chanche to enjoy positive discrimination?

I suppose if we do that it would actually work pretty well to let MTF`ers enjoy positive discriminiation since the FTMèrs and MTF`ers are roughly equal in number.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Well forbidden fruit tastes the best. S io imagine there can be a erotic element to seeing women in full burqas. Certainly the men who insist that their wifes and daugthers wear full burqas have a hyper-erotic perspective on anything relating to female bodies. What would the point of having these outfits otherwise?

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Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
So the question has been raised" would you ask a male politician if he felt nervous?". With the implication being that women gets asked this but never men and that this is bad. If there is a double standard here then that is bad. But eh, yeah i would like to know if certain male politicans felt nervous when giving a speech.

Women are often held to a stricter more demanding standard which is unfair. The best solution is to also and with equal force apply the same standard to men.

In the developed world women are progressing, men are backsliding. This is because we men decided it was ok and cool to a have lazy " aw-shucks i`ll just wing it" attitude to life. Women in general are not socialized to have this lovely attitude, instead they feel like they have to over perform and really do their homework to not get ridiculed. We men could use some of that neurotic paranoia and self-doubt. We ougth be more like Clinton and less like Trump.

In short do ask male politicans if they feel nervous and why they wear such ill/well fitting suits.
Its good for society.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Nice piece of fish posted:

Do you ever feel nervous about posting?

No as a man i am culturally programmed to not feel such emotion. You merely prove my point.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
The fur industry employs people and generates tax income in a era when the Norwegian economy is struggling. We have to keep it even if it is barbaric.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I can respect SP. They know how to use their leverage for maximum gain for themselves and their voters. They are 100% cyncics and i trust they will abandon their so called patriotism the moment it becomes opportune to horsetrade a little with the left. They are pragmatic populists after all. Maxing out our food production and slowing down the centralization of Norway are causes i support. SP 2017: Make Oslo small again!

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Fjern kontantstøtten og bruk penga til å gjøre egenandelen(gratis om det er nok peng til det).

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Fraflytting fra bygda betyr flere folk bor tett. Konsekvensen er redusert privattransport til fordel for kollektiv, klimasaken seirer selv i Trumps tid.
På nedsiden vil det føre til nedbygget landbruk med økt fare for sult ved forstyrrelser i verdenshandelen. Oppsiden er at økt matimport som overfører midler til fattigere områder som må til for å oppnå en historisk rejustering a velstand mellom vesten og resten. Oppbrudd av historiske grenser oppleves traumatisk ofte men er innbyggeres psykologiske innstilning til linjer på kartet vektig versus hensyn som budsjetteffektivitet og standardisering av offentlig tjenester?
I værste fall nuller fordeler og ulemper seg ut.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Looks like i will be voting Venstre for purely tactical reasons this year. Feels bad, but sometimes you have to stuff that camel meat down your eathole.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

V. Illych L. posted:

After their continuing support for the present government I genuinely don't see how this is a reasonable option, unless one desires frp cabinet members

Oops! Did my extreme enthusiasm give the game away?
I

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
They still haven`t delivered their promise of a hen for every man. Where is my mødderfoking hen Venstre?

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I only want the means of egg production to be redistributed you perverts. The means of reproduction can safely be handled by the free market, just cut away some red tape.
Welfare for a man`s stomach, free enterprise for his stick.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Are we really having a debate about antifa being a thing in Scandinavia? Well yes. Groups that call themselves antifascist do exist in scandinavia. Whenever there is a big nazi rally planned they tend to turn up and figth them, usually in with massive numerical superiority. If you want to join them you can. They migth even start using more direct and radical forms of force against rigth wing groups/parties if someone joins them and urges them to do so.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Voted V in the name of a higher cause. Now i am a filthy liberal too.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Biomute posted:

Try harder.

It was very hard to do. I am going to need a four year break first.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Venstre hanging on just barely. Glad my vote was not wasted like those of who you voted for the Greens or (possibly) Red.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Alhazred posted:

You voted for four more years of Sylvi, you're just as bad as HH.

Well i got what i wanted thats true.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Thank god for tactical voting.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
To be fair customers sound better then clients. Calling the public customers is a good thing because it encourages civil servants to reflect every day on how their purpose is to do a job for the politically defined " common good" be it taxing corporations, deciding who gets to built what and where or deciding who deserves asylum ( or not) . The customer is always right, but a client is at your mercy. Which do you prefer the state sees you as? Sees vulnerable people as?
You can`t really use the word citizen because much of the time that would incorrect and not relevant in determining a persons rights and liabilities when encountering public authority,.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
The very little his date with Kim acheived is still more then Obama had acheived when he got his Nobel.
It`s only fair that Trump gets one too, but he should share it with Kim. Would be weird and probably harmful to only reward one side of a bilateral peace process.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Danskene er inne på noe med obligatorisk barnehage. Men å kun kreve det for etniske minoriterer blir kontraproduktivt, det kommer til å produsere ekstremt mye motvilje og ekstremisme. Ingen liker å bli uthengt.
Jeg sier heller obligatorisk offentlig barnehage for alle. Private og ideelle bør legges ned slik at alle barnehager tilbyr den samme indoktrineringen ( utdanningsektorens nest viktigste funksjon). Politiet kommer ikke å henter ungen hvis du nekter men da kan du også glemme alt som heter kontanststøtte eller barnetrygd eller tilsvarende barnesubsidierende ordninger.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Pyromaniac Ida posted:

What happens if Ulf just ignores Jimmy and each block votes for their own budgets. Won't that force SD to support the right wing side without having milked them for concessions?

Only if they are stupid. If i was Åkesson i would ruthlessly cut down any conservative goverment that refused to deal with me, regardless of the consequences.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
And poisoning the oceans with salmon poo poo, salmon lice, and a shiton of chemicals to delouse the salmon. And we`re big fans of dumping mining waste directly into our fjords. But at least we paid Brazil a lot of money to chop down the rain forest slower. That deforestation is gonna start to slow down any day now.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
If he stays with her after this then she really must be the love of his life.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Joined SP today.
Don`t know how involved i will be but i am happy to hand out pamphlets and knock on doors when the times come for that. It`s lovely work but nothing i haven`t done before.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Their ownership of the decentralistion issue and their agricultural policy. Political affilations are like clothes we put on or discard depending on the season and the climate. Rigth now SP`s policies on these issues are what`s needed. While SP is not (yet?) a anti-immigration party they are also less enthusiactic about liberalizing the immigration system than the other opposition parties. In the event that the current goverment loses it majority i want SP to be included in the new goverment for this reason.

Every party has some major doo doo in their political programs but the doo doo in SP`s program don`t smell so bad to me. Their mink farm policy is morally abhorrent, but since were going to need every job we can keep our hands own as we transition away from oil and gas i am willing to defend it. Beggars can`t be choosers and that is what we will be reduced to in my lifetime. The anti-predator hysteria is bit a lol, but if this what they have to beleive to get votes then so be it.

I want to work towards SP including a national gurantee for sufficent housing for adults with severe mental/physical handicaps no matter where they live in their offical program. Rigth now that varies a lot. So you end up with aging parents working themselves to death caring for their adult children. That`s not rigth. A family should`nt have to relocate to get sufficent help. It`s an issue that lends itself naturally to SP`s brand of local populism. Krf are actually very good on this issue, but i loving detest their entire ethos. Never ever would i join them. Under the current leadership they can be relied on to priotize Kulturkampf issues over social spending anyhow. SV is also alrigth on this one issue but there is too much i disagre with to join.

I am a soft eurosceptic so i am not in favor of leaving the EEA, but the EEA question is politically dead anyway so that`s irrelevant. I would definetivly quit if SP along with others managed to get a plebiciste on "Noxit" passed. Buts that`s about as likely as child porn being legalized so i am not too worried.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Sounds like an argument for implementing soft price control on food item when/if VAT is reduced. I`m certainly going to pay far more in VAT in the course of my lifetime then i could ever hope to save in Inheritance taxes, even with a 100% tax (and i do expect there will be a non-trivial sum for me to inherit) that`s a win for me. Wealth tax would also have to be pretty steep before that`s a loss for me if VAT is also removed (presuming prices could be controlled). Not that it`s going to happen. VAT gurantees stable year-round funding and is much easier to collect than income taxes on business profits where there is much more room for shady tricks to reduce the tax burden. For the forseeable future it would be quite the gamble to remove it even if the state budget was (on paper) balanced by increasing other taxes.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Påstandene var korrekt nok de. Men hvis alt som er bra fra hele verden allerede er brakt hit hvorfor skal jeg da gidde å reise? Hvis det virkelig ikke finnes steder du kan dra til med unik identitet er det da moralsk forsvarlig å reise med fly? Jeg fikk ikke mer lyst til å reise med SAS etter å ha sett reklamen.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I work for the goverment and it is a been long day of panicked meetings and confused memos at work today. Still not sure if i am supposed to WFH or not.
This could`nt have happened at a worse time for us, WFH will hurt our productivity bad especially sine our IT systems just aren`t built to deal with more then a few employees working from home at any given time. My hope is that all this disruption will derail a stupendously ill conceived strategy the bosses had been planning to implement next week. If we cancel that it should cancel out the hit we will (would?) take from trying to WFH everyone. It really makes me question all the " efficency reforms" we have been going trough lately. So much talk about doing more for less but never about not doing stupid poo poo that fucks with our basic operations just to produce a nice statistic (please ignore the larger picture, look only at my new shiny number).

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Was just informed by a security guard that i am indeed going to be WFH for the time being.
Great job by management keeping us informed!
Seeing as nothing works it looks like this is going to be a long weekend for me.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
It`s not just business ghouls that want to things to reopen, people are extremely worried that they migth not have a job to come back to. My sister manages a kindergarden and she`s expressed strong hope for a full reopening soon.

Personally it does not matter to me, not directly. But i do worry how we are going to get out of this dark pit we find ourselves in.
It is also important to remember that the "lockdown" measures are only effective if people feel like they are neccessary. That`s why we have to start loosening some restrictions after easter or face mass civil disobedience with would really cause the virus to grow rapidly. Allow shops and hairdresses to reopen at least. Outside of oslo perhaps restuarants and pubs could be allowed to reopen albeit with reduced hours? Then wait 14 days and see what happens.

The tourist sector is loving dead tough. We will probably have to keep our borders closed until late autumn and i can`t imagine the goverment wants domestic tourists crawling all over the country during the summer, that would certainly undo all of our efforts so far.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Why did Sweden fold in 1905? You could have forced us to give away large areas of economic and strategic importance in exchange for independence. The only concession was that we had to remove some fortifications that no longer needed now that their political purpose had been accomplished. The working class may not have been very eager to figth, but that did`nt stop anyone in continental Europe 9 years later.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Let`s be real tough, compared to anywhere outside of Scandinavia a Danish workplace is nothing extraordinary.
But danes do like a to keep a rather rough tone (a sort of playful bullying) which can rub some people the wrong way. I found it very tiring in some of my colleagues from Finnmark. When you have to hear someone talk "straigth from the liver" it every morning it loses much of it`s charm.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
You prefer the issue to be passed over? Denmark-Norway had a signicant slave trade. In Trondheim there is a grand old house called "the sugar house" take a guess how that was paid for. It`s frankly excellent that the Danish citizenship programme recognises this.

I hope the protests can stay peaceful here. The difference in degree and kind of police violence does not justify the same physical display of rage as it arguably does in the states.
The Oslo demonstrators appear to have worked out a reasonable and safe plan for protests together with the police.

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Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Are jew cakes antisemitic? They have nothing to do with irl jews or Jewish pastry traditions.

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