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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Don't you mean kamelåsa kamelåsa?

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Is smoked or cured fish bland? It's pretty common around these parts and good.

Lutefisk is something else...

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

What are you arguing? That Iceland isn't culturally a part of the Nordics? Next you will be saying the same thing about Finland. Crazy talk.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
A more interesting question is can Estonia ever be considered "nordic".

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Baudolino posted:

I am sure there are other areas where your legal gender matters that will require a rethink now that anyone can have it changed.

Sports is a big one. What league does a transgender person compete in?

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Oppressive religious regulation of sexuality does result in prevalence of perversions. Just look at the Catholic church and their institutionally accepted pedophile priests, and the choir boy system that was created to serve as a de facto front for child prostitution.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Political parties value loyalty and "paying your dues". Unless you are already in some kind of position of power, if you go against the leadership you might as well leave the party, because they will not forget that.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

BigglesSWE posted:

Pretty much my thoughts. Thinking SD would be "the voice of the little man" is just as delusional as thinking Dolan Drumpf is.

The voice is saying gently caress you big Man, i don't care if he is a nazi as long as he fucks your poo poo up.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Cerebral Bore posted:

You sound like an rear end in a top hat if your knee jerk reaction is to mindlessly dismiss informed analysis in favour of your other knee jerk reaction.

Like, the entire point is that some super lovely guys have a super lovely view of women and therefore don't see anything wrong with livestreaming rape, so you're basically raging against somebody who is basically saying that same thing as you here. The question is, how is harsher punishments reasonably going to deter someone who doesn't think what they're doing is wrong?

The correct answer is to place them in a center for behavioral correction, kind of like a mental hospital, indefinitely. They will only be released once a panel of experts agree that they have truly learned and sincerely believe rape is wrong.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
It would be only fair, their imprisonment could be very short indeed if they are willing to learn and abandon bad views. If they are not, they are a danger to the public, much like the criminally insane.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
How would you educate people convicted of rape, not believing rape is wrong, that it in fact is wrong?

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
How are you so goddamn dense, they should return the left over money to their members.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

MiddleOne posted:

They're not Systembolaget, if they run a deficit for a number of years with no back-up they're out. They're being financially responsible by squirreling funds away in ways that benefit their members long-term.

This is a really fine line to walk. Unions are not there to invest for profit, they are supposed to operate on their membership fees, and also depend on those fees.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Be it Church or Union, gathering property and capital that is ultimately controlled by the leadership of that institution, when that is not their actual purpose, is harmful and results in corruption. Unions are there for collective bargaining, not what you are talking about.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Also, what could be a better investment, than the lives of their real living membership? Way too much money is tied in various abstract investments, wouldn't it be better to let your union member buy a new car? It would also stimulate the economy a lot more.


It is not idealism, it's just you who are wholly corrupt and bought into the corruption you've been fed. *edit* Ok, it is idealism. Now I turn over to you the burden of proof as to why that is a bad thing.

doverhog fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Feb 3, 2017

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
You won me over, well done. Unions are actually good.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Is it true Bråvalla festival has been cancelled due to rape? Is this a Swedish cultural thing? Shouldn't they hire more security? Will all festivals in Sweden be cancelled in the future? Please discuss.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
What was the reaction in Sweden to the terrorist knife attack in Turku, Finland? Like, the general vibe.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

RIP Syndrome posted:

Whatever happens -- we gonna pump oil till the Devil come, suck this fucker dry, and then the Arctic too. Pension fund will be gambled away by a rogue trader/used to plug budget holes left by tax cuts for corps and the 1%/rendered worthless by financial collapse and expropriation of our ill-gotten foreign assets/just kind of do nothing because we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation.

Join the Euro, we could use some inflation over here.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
To avoid your oil inflation problems, duh. It was all in the first post.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Look dude, RIP Syndrome is the one who complained about "we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation", I was just trying to help. :agesilaus:

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Maybe the car burning is a false flag operation by ISIS? Generate support for Sweden Democrats, who in turn will generate support for ISIS once in power?

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Is "the usual car burnings" a common phrase in Swedish politics?

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

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SplitSoul posted:

Yes, it's a religion.

Sounds like harmful bullshit to me.

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