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Baudolino posted:The Earth is dying, and i do not have much hope for human civilization beyond this century. Perhaps it will start to unravel in my own lifetime.
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Abu Dave posted:I dropped out of community college (actually, got kicked out), have no degree and about $10k in college loans debt (almost 10 years later). it sucks. i make $16 a hour and that's seen as a decent pay for my location but i dont have any idea how anyone can manage to live on their own and not make atleast $23 a hour or something like that. just with debt and gas alone i use up most of my pay checks. chemosh6969 posted:These days, I see more students than I should that say "I'll get this degree and then see what I can do with it" while not pursuing outside scholarships or internships, and accepting the maximum amount of loans because simply because that's the amount available to them and not actually thinking anything in regards to budgeting or what it'll take to pay anything back. It's all now now now. Every piece of society tells kids "you have to go to college" and "college debt is normal." With no other information, of course they're going to make terrible long-term financial decisions.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:51
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This isn't the best thread for this debate, but there are a lot of things that have led to the increasing costs of college tuition. Yes, opening up college to many more students through more availability of loans was part of it, but mostly because we increased access to colleges without increasing state spending on colleges to compensate. In addition, there was inadequate focus on how to actually get all of these new students to finish college and enter profitable careers afterwards. Getting rid of loans would reduce the demand for college, sure, but it would also eliminate the best way for individuals from low income households to pull themselves up.
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Aug 21, 2016 16:26
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Who knew that being a purposely jobless, homeless beggar that's
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Aug 31, 2016 21:13
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Oooh,  .But see, I'm comfortable with the "not being a dick part." It's the "fraudulently taking resources from social programs because I'd rather get high all day than work" part that doesn't really jive with my worldview. You're the one that justifies people like Mike Pence; I say I support social programs for people in need, and they point to someone like you and say it's easy to commit fraud and we're catering to a bunch of able-bodied drug addicts that just want to take money from them without working. Since it fits the theme of the thread, I'll throw out there that while all this stuff is cute and fun when you're young and healthy, it gets a hell of a lot less cute when you're a sick old man and nobody wants to give you free rides, free places to crash, pocket change, or even look you in the eye anymore. Hospitals will do the bare minimum to keep you alive and then kick your rear end out the door to deal with your chronic health conditions on the streets. But I'm sure you'll say "I know old folks who do it" or "the world will take care of me" or "whatever happens, happens" or whatever other bullshit to make yourself feel like you're on the right path and you've figured it all out. The truth is that even though you've lived broke and homeless, you've never truly been distressed or in the poo poo. Otherwise you'd take things like losing your free meals a little loving more seriously. By the way, you're about 1% as interesting as you think you are.
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Sep 1, 2016 16:04
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Brainiac Five posted:It would actually be cheaper to directly kill people who fall out of the employment market for an extended period of time than just denying them benefits and hoping they starve to death, so your beliefs are obviously based more on your desire to torture people than even some murderous technocrat's yearning to kill the "useless" people. And I do agree that at the very least, dude should talk to a professional just to talk through things and make sure he's all good. Imaduck fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 09:45
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I think he's just saying that he ended up with a better-than-average job than his colleagues, and that's not necessarily because he was "better" or worked harder than his colleagues with similar backgrounds. It's important to not get mired in "everything is luck, everything good anyone has is due to luck, therefore I shouldn't do anything and just hope to get lucky." On the same note, it's important to not go to the other extreme and think that all the success you've had is just a result of how great you are. Highly successful people tend to over-emphasize their personal part in success. Highly unsuccessful people tend to over-emphasize how unlucky they are. The truth is in the middle.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:31
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:You're still missing the point. Most career paths aren't included in *any* degree, and yet many of them require *a* degree anyway. An English degree is as good for those as anything else. A fairly small proportion of degree-requiring jobs have strong preferences with regard to major. Nobody is saying that you can't get a great job with an English degree. What we're saying is that your pathway to that great job is probably going to be a lot harder. You can't just say "oh I have a college degree, I'll take my $70k/year please." Instead, you're probably going to have to spend many years moving from job to job, trying to distinguish yourself, trying to pick up new skills, trying to find a good in to a higher role, and really grind your way up. You might have to go back to school. You might have to luck into connections that happen to have the right opportunity for you at the right time. You're probably going to spend many years being relatively poor. You might not ever make it. Or you can get a degree in a high demand field like Computer Science and be offered a good, high-paying job a year before you graduate. I'm not saying that that pathway is easier, or that it's for everyone, but it's just not the same thing as getting a Philosophy degree. I also kind of take issue with you saying there are lots of jobs out there that require just any degree. We're talking in generalities here, but I think that's becoming less and less true, and more and more jobs are going back to "a degree or 4 years experience." Even jobs that say they require a degree will often hire someone who can demonstrate the skills they need without the degree.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:46
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BarbarianElephant posted:That's the secret - for now. That way of thinking also led to a glut of lawyers a few years back. Probably good odds for someone picking their degree right now, assuming they have decent aptitude for code and don't hate the thought of being in a cubicle making for-loops for the next 50 years. Open floor plans are actually much worse than cubicles. Give me a cube. Also, the fact that I have a strong opinion about office floor plans hurts my soul a little. I usually hate self-help books, but I've been reading the book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a gently caress and it's pretty good. It presents an interesting perspective about why a lot of people whose lives look great on paper feel lovely about their lives and why a lot of folks with relatively shittier lives feel pretty good. It's great if you're trying to figure out what your goals should be if you actually want to feel good about what you're doing and where you're going in life.
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Oxxidation posted:I already want to hurl a brick at this idiot's head.
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