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City of Tampa posted:yeah actually if you adjust for race it's possible that white Hilary voters are more racist than white Trump voters. Of course that's probably why you'll never be able to find that data. For example, the election isn't even looking like a contest, but the idea of a ban on muslims entering the US is rather close.
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City of Tampa posted:yeah but Trump supporters are only slightly more racist than Clinton supporters, although if you'd watched any US news programming in the last few months you'd think that everybody voting for Trump is a skinhead and all of Clinton's voters are impoverished women of color just trying to survive in a hostile world. Oh ok, fair enough. I don't watch US news, but I've been watching Trump (and until recently) Bernie rallies when I can, and both are very entertaining (not in a condescending way, I have no vote in any of this stuff) and very interesting to me. I just see a bunch of more mixed age white people at Trump ones, and a lot of white younger people at Bernie ones. I haven't seen many Clinton ones.
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City of Tampa posted:yeah but Trump supporters are only slightly more racist than Clinton supporters, although if you'd watched any US news programming in the last few months you'd think that everybody voting for Trump is a skinhead and all of Clinton's voters are impoverished women of color just trying to survive in a hostile world.
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spud posted:Oh ok, fair enough. I don't watch US news, but I've been watching Trump (and until recently) Bernie rallies when I can, and both are very entertaining (not in a condescending way, I have no vote in any of this stuff) and very interesting to me. a lot of people in the u.s. are racist regardless of their own race but a lot of hillary supporters are quick to label all trump supporters as racist and are in complete denial that trump's success is mostly based off of the absolute poo poo and corruption of both political parties that make a lying idiotic businessman still more believable than any career politician
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The left are retarded because instead of addressing the very real criticisms of free trade and flaws in our immigration policy, they decide it is easier to just ignore those issues and call the other side racist. Look maybe they are racist but they're not wrong that these things need to be addressed and pretending like everything is fine is precisely why there is so much anger and disillusion out there driving people to the Trump camp. At least he's talking about things the Left is too squeamish to mention. Just like European states trying to cover up refugee problems/issues rather than dealing with them cause right wing European parties to gain popularity.
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Luvcow posted:a lot of people in the u.s. are racist regardless of their own race but a lot of hillary supporters are quick to label all trump supporters as racist and are in complete denial that trump's success is mostly based off of the absolute poo poo and corruption of both political parties that make a lying idiotic businessman still more believable than any career politician
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Roylicious posted:The left are retarded because instead of addressing the very real criticisms of free trade and flaws in our immigration policy, they decide it is easier to just ignore those issues and call the other side racist. build wall ban muslims
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Hillary looks like my mom and her supporters look like my 4th grade teacher who was a fat spinster that smelled of cats.
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Roylicious posted:Look maybe they are racist but they're not wrong that these things need to be addressed and pretending like everything is fine is precisely why there is so much anger and disillusion out there driving people to the Trump camp. At least he's talking about things the Left is too squeamish to mention.
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Prettz posted:everyone voting for trump is a skinhead or is working class and is looking to vote for someone that isn't pretending that our hosed economy is doing great and that we just need to keep on this same path if the choice is to continue a status quo that only serves a handful of rich people or burn it all down I think that it's OK to choose to burn it all down, and that doesn't necessarily make you racist
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Prettz posted:lol you really believe that don't you i can't believe you don't, there's not a shot in hell i'll ever vote for trump but at least i'm listening to people who are and not just painting them with a broad brush as racists
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Prettz posted:Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren: Not the left. They are the left, but they aren't the Democratic Party establishment and people with their politics will never be
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City of Tampa posted:or is working class and is looking to vote for someone that isn't pretending that our hosed economy is doing great and that we just need to keep on this same path yeah the people i know who support trump are democrats who just want to throw a wrench in the current political system, they are good people who i may disagree with but they are still my friends and neighbors and its this retarded ideal that you are either a democrat or a republican that has hosed our country over so much
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Luvcow posted:i can't believe you don't, there's not a shot in hell i'll ever vote for trump but at least i'm listening to people who are and not just painting them with a broad brush as racists
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Prettz posted:Problem is everything you're saying is made up by you. what? have you talked to anyone that doesn't agree with you and actually listened or are you one of those little pussies that just calls them racists and goes home to play video games with your shades pulled down?
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Prettz posted:Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren: Not the left. The left that anyone takes seriously though? Just look at how the Dems treated Bernie. Luvcow posted:yeah the people i know who support trump are democrats who just want to throw a wrench in the current political system, they are good people who i may disagree with but they are still my friends and neighbors and its this retarded ideal that you are either a democrat or a republican that has hosed our country over so much I know a lot of these.
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Prettz posted:Elizabeth Warren: mouthpiece for Clinton
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Jun 29, 2016 20:12
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which sucks because elizabeth warren is about as anti clinton as you can get but sold out so she could potentially get on the ticket
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Roylicious posted:The left that anyone takes seriously though? Just look at how the Dems treated Bernie.
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Luvcow posted:yeah the people i know who support trump are democrats who just want to throw a wrench in the current political system, they are good people who i may disagree with but they are still my friends and neighbors and its this retarded ideal that you are either a democrat or a republican that has hosed our country over so much that's a pretty stupid way of thinking. best i can see if trump won he'd just be reagan 2.0
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Clinton was Reagan 2.0, we are at like ReagaX now.
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Prettz posted:The left is the left. What other "left" do you believe there is? Uh the established presumably leftist political party called the Democrats? The one that didn't want to do debates and treated HRC like she was coronated from day 1 and how dare Bernie get in the way of her historical moment? The left ranges from slightly left of center all the way to radical socialist. Anything that isn't slightly to the left of center is treated like the plague in this country.
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Roylicious posted:Uh the established presumably leftist political party called the Democrats?
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Idk what to tell you buddy socialist is a dirty word in this country that is trotted out as soon as anyone is to the left of moderate; how much more anti-left does it get than that? The Dems are moderates, the GOP are right wing, there is no party for the real left in the USA anymore. Yeah Bernie ran and did okay but in the end he still got trounced by big money interests. Yeah Warren is still kicking around but again, does anyone take them seriously? No. At best they are good for soaking up disillusioned leftist votes back into the Dem party. Roylicious fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Maoist Pussy posted:*pours one out for Falun Bong*
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Roylicious posted:The left that anyone takes seriously though? Just look at how the Dems treated Bernie. Yeah this is what really pisses me off, because of people protecting Clinton from Bernie in this primary now a large segment of Democratic voters are OK with some really insane bullshit. Bill Maher on Friday was actually talking about how Clinton's AUMF vote was "just voting to give Bush the badge and the gun, not to start a war" which I have been hearing for months from Clinton voters and which would have gotten you laughed the gently caress out of the room in 2008, but is now official Democratic Party line. Not to mention that the wars are not something we are trying to end anymore, there's no such thing as a conflict of interest or corruption without smoking-gun evidence of quid pro quo, $15 an hour is too much for a minimum wage, people going to college should pay for it themselves because they need to "have skin in the game" (Clinton's actual words), Kissinger's endorsement is something to be proud of, NAFTA was a success, etc. the Democratic Party has been sliding this way for years but it's like they collectively lost their minds and threw everything out the window at once to be able to justify Clinton's nomination
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Luvcow posted:which sucks because elizabeth warren is about as anti clinton as you can get but sold out so she could potentially get on the ticket I don't know what to think of Warren, if they put her on the ticket it will only be to prevent Clintons Wall Street Uber Alles administration from having a vocal and popular critic in the Senate (because the VP pretty much never publicly disagrees with the Pres.) and to win over Bernie voters, but I still trust that Warren knows what she's doing and wouldn't take the VP slot without some serious promises from Clinton But whatever, she's not going to be offered the VP slot anyway. It's gonna be somebody with a hispanic name that Wall Street trusts, or somebody whose career was created almost entirely by Wall Street like Cory Booker.
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some people honestly believe that the world is like some dungeons and dragons campaign where their political party is lawful good and the opposing party is lawful evil and every hour of every day is a fight against tyranny and injustice when in reality you're just dividing yourself from your neighbors and allowing a bunch of rich assholes to fleece you over and over againCity of Tampa posted:I don't know what to think of Warren, if they put her on the ticket it will only be to prevent Clintons Wall Street Uber Alles administration from having a vocal and popular critic in the Senate (because the VP pretty much never publicly disagrees with the Pres.) and to win over Bernie voters, but I still trust that Warren knows what she's doing and wouldn't take the VP slot without some serious promises from Clinton pretty much 
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Luvcow posted:some people honestly believe that the world is like some dungeons and dragons campaign where their political party is lawful good and the opposing party is lawful evil and every hour of every day is a fight against tyranny and injustice when in reality you're just dividing yourself from your neighbors and allowing a bunch of rich assholes to fleece you ever and over again
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Maoist Pussy posted:*pours one out for Falun Bong*
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Strudel Man posted:Lawful evil nothing, those guys are CE. NE 
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Luvcow posted:some people honestly believe that the world is like some dungeons and dragons campaign where their political party is lawful good and the opposing party is lawful evil and every hour of every day is a fight against tyranny and injustice when in reality you're just dividing yourself from your neighbors and allowing a bunch of rich assholes to fleece you over and over again  Goddamn, summed it all up nicely.
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*Spits in a Mountain Dew bottle while leaning on the tailgate of a pickup truck* Personally I'm racist as poo poo but I caint stand that bitch.
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Mozi posted:... people ... are racist ... AP confirms.
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lol bernie sanders lost to hillary clinton, who will go on to become the next president of the united states
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Maoist Pussy posted:*pours one out for Falun Bong* I hope Lady Ambien comes back she was an excellent admin with a good sense of humor
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whoflungpoop posted:I hope Lady Ambien comes back she was an excellent admin with a good sense of humor yeah
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