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Pyronic posted:Well since there's a new thread i'll ask again here: I'm having trouble deciding between Circle and Cygnar for my first foray into Warmahordes. I play both (along with Protectorate) and right now, I'd steer people more towards Cygnar over Circle. There's nothing wrong with Circle per se, but the MKIII transition has been uneven for them and changed a lot of model rules to the point where it's unclear what PP wants their role to be. In MKII they had tons of movement-based shenanigans, much of which has been toned down or eliminated, and several of the heavy warbeasts, the Satyrs, which weren't widely taken in MKII were toned down for reasons that aren't really clear and make them harder to justify. The Wolds are ok, and are great models, but outside of one or two warlocks are a bit more limited in their application. On the other hand, Cygnar has been bolstered by the transition to MKIII, with rules that have improved most of their infantry and many of the 'jacks. They have a really clear faction identity that's backed by the rules and have a lot of viable options for list building/toy buying depending on what direction you want to go. Circle is perfectly playable but Cygnar is in a much better place right now, on the day after official release.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 14:32 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 22:19 |
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PaintVagrant posted:Canadians are a flighty, gooselike people gently caress, is it too late to change the thread title?
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 17:12 |
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Tonight I'm going to assemble the Stormblade Infantry command attachment and the standard looks like it's going to be prone to detaching from the pole. Is that the case or am I worrying over nothing? Also, the pole is going to bend all the loving time isn't it?
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 20:08 |
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Awesome on the attaching, boo on the tipping over. I'm having that problem with Kromac's beast form actually because I set it off-center on his base. Filling the back half with greenstuff, it turns out, doesn't offset the weight at all. I'll have to get strategical with setting the standard bearer on the base.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 20:43 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:You really need some type of weight to offset to heavy models. Fishing weights are good, and if you get the really small ones you should be able to fill the underside of the base. Yeah, it was an attempt using only what I had to hand which was nothing. At some point I'll figure out a better weighting system for it.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 21:03 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Blood of Kings spoilers I said it in the last thread and I'll say it again now, Blood of Kings is actually really well written and worth the time to read. It's a legit, full-length novel and Seacat writes a good war story.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 00:14 |
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KPC_Mammon posted:I think that was in reference to the Hailey + Twins novel centering on dragons. Yeah, Haley is a pretty loving dull protagonist. The Dragon Twins were more interesting, and the stuff with the dragons themselves was pretty badass actually. That's a really short novella at least, under 200 pages as I recall.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 03:18 |
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TheInvisiblePooka posted:My storm blade standard bearer has never fallen apart or bent on me. Jesus gently caress you weren't joking. How does something like that even get released? I'm going to have to weigh the poo poo out of that fucker.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 04:32 |
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How heavy are the metal 30mm bases that PP makes? I wonder if they'd be heavy enough to counteract the standard bearer's stupid balance issues. That and maybe a penny under whatever base I make for it, which will have to be more elevated than a normal Basius pad base because of how low the sword dips. This was not a well conceived model.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 12:18 |
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Drythe posted:Can't you just glue metal under the base or something There's not a lot of clearance under those bases though, unless you've got a good means of scraping all that stuff out. I ordered a trio of metal bases and then I'll probably buy a washer for the top (unless the undersides are open) and hope for the best. I guess if the flag does come apart I'll trim the post down, which I wish I'd thought of before.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 16:19 |
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imperialparadox posted:Just FYI on the small PP metal bases, they are solid all the way through, except for a slot cut into them. They aren't "hollow" on the underside like the plastic ones. Good to know, thanks. Washer on the top it shall be then.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 16:32 |
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TheInvisiblePooka posted:Once you realize that Magnus is bassically Big Boss of Iron Kingdoms, things start to make sense about him. Hell yes, after Blood of Kings I am super interested in Magnus and greatly anticipate his Cygnar epic version.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 17:35 |
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Kithkar posted:Beginning of Flashpoint Spoilers: Magnus is made a general in the cygnaran army Do we know when Flashpoint is being published? I'm really ready to go all-in on the MKIII storyline.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 05:08 |
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How deep does this rabbit hole go?!?
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 18:02 |
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This is probably too open-ended a question, but how do you all approach the use of minimum units when list building? Given the increased focus on 'jacks/beasts in MKIII I feel like I need to think more seriously about it but it also feels like it's even more important for units to be at full strength so that they can really have a meaningful board presence. I don't own a ton of infantry yet, so it's largely academic right now but something I feel like I need to start really thinking about, especially focusing on Cygnar as I have been.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 20:57 |
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S.J. posted:Yah guns are gonna be really good with premeasuring in general so SG is more valuable by default. I still feel vaguely like I'm cheating with premeasuring but it feels so good to be able to do.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 03:57 |
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fnordcircle posted:Butcher getting tough was like Christmas. I was surprised when I noticed Siege getting it too. Possibly because he survived a near-bisection at the hands of the Butcher (where the gently caress is Siege 2 PP?)
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 03:45 |
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Excelsiortothemax posted:It's because he is a Trencher FYI. All Trenchers have tough. Sadly, that's not on his card, at least not in War Room, which is too bad because he and Finn would make an amazing duo.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 17:25 |
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From the sound of it, it's a book per faction theme basically. The example they gave was Forces of Cygnar: Storm Brigade and Forces of Cygnar: Trenchers.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2016 17:39 |
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Have the LOS rules changed for colossals in mk3? It looks like there's nothing now about forests not blocking LOS but the rulebook is so badly laid out (and the PDF reader on my tablet is super slow.)
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 03:47 |
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albany academy posted:It's in the rules for forests. Huge base models ignore forests for LOS. Ugh, of course it was there in the one line I'd previously overlooked. Luckily we were playing it right. Thanks.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 04:06 |
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Play-wise Cygnar is in an amazing place right now, having benefited greatly from the transition to mk3. Painting-wise they're fun, blue's a pretty forgiving color (though you'll want to change your water and clean your brushes really frequently because blue is unforgiving on bristles and will tint the water so much that it will change every other color you use) and the 'jacks are fun and really satisfying to paint. All the infantry seems either to have a lot of fiddly detail that I hate (gun mages) or lots of mold lines that are a pain in the rear end to clean off (storm knights) but that's scarcely unique to Cygnar. Swans own, play Swans.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 19:16 |
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Geisladisk posted:I wonder what they'll be doing thematically for Tristan as he graduates to full Warcaster. Right now he's an incredibly milquetoast Warcaster Man. His backstory is, "This is Warcaster Man. He is very promising and unusually good at Warcastering". That's perfectly fine for a Journeyman, but doesn't really work for a full caster. He can see everything but really has no means of demonstrating that to anyone, so just, just trust him, ok? Apparently he's going to be a 'jack-caster in a way that the Protectorate doesn't have right now, but that's the only hint they dropped. Has anyone here converted a plastic Lancer to Thorn, and if so, how did it work out?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 12:24 |
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Felime posted:Don't use a pthalo blue. Ultramarine is a way less strong pigment and will be less strong when tainting other colors. I have no idea what any of this means.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 14:44 |
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rkajdi posted:pthalo blue Yeah, mostly it's the word "pthalo" that I'm confused about.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 16:26 |
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Christ, this is basically a dozen pages of True Sight, Gang, and Flank changes.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 19:20 |
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waah posted:Is anyone else having trouble really grasping what the errata means due to rules and abilities being so new? Like at the end of Mk2 I knew immediately if a change was big. Now I look at an errata and I have to go dig for my physical cards to see if a change was a big deal Definitely a challenge, especially since so much of this errata is the repeated correction of a handful of rules.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 20:08 |
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KPC_Mammon posted:For C you just contact them directly via email and tell them what you have. They'll tell you exactly what you need. Yeah, I did the same thing and they were really helpful (albeit somehow convinced that their custom case thing was a useful thing).
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 00:16 |
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gannyGrabber posted:BREAKING NEWS yeah. I keep wanting to finish the single-player campaign because I do kind of like Jakes and I like the lore and poo poo but the missions are such a loving slog and I'm not even halfway through after all this time. So much wasted potential.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 00:05 |
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Any game where the comparatively simple act of figuring out what the poo poo is happening on your opponent's turn (to say nothing of your own turn not infrequently) is an impossible prospect is a real loving bummer. At least the Kickstarter is how I got to playing the actual game, so not a total loss.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 00:17 |
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I realized today that Magnus 2 works for Cygnar now. I don't have any particular follow-up to this, but Magnus 3 had better be full Swan.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 02:53 |
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I really just want to know if the GenCon boxes are going to be exclusive sculpts or not because if they are I will absolutely have my friends pick me up that Tristan model. Goddamn that's pretty. I'd also really like them to just announce the price. Mostly I'm an entitled man-baby who wants new toys noooooooow.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 19:40 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:They are going to be on the PP store, so your friends don't have to pick them up if you are willing to pay a few bucks shipping. Unless it is convenient for them. Well sure, if I wanted to be sensible about things.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 20:24 |
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xiw posted:Tristan's got Manifest Destiny. That is going to be pretty sick in Menoth - imagine it coupled with Future SIght on gun jacks. What does Manifest Destiny do, other than destroy the ecosystem of the western US?
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 00:13 |
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That sounds splendid, yes.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 00:22 |
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fnordcircle posted:I can't remember what Jakes got in the WM:Tactics campaign as she leveled up but I wonder if that would be any indicator. I know she got Acrobatics. Taken from the forums and spoiled just in case (?) Spd 6, Mat 7, Rat 5, Def 16, Arm 14 Focus 6. [Field Marshal] Sprint Sprint Acrobatics Parry Feat: Powerhouse- Friendly Faction models gain Immune to electricity, melee weapons gain rng 2 and electroleap. Weapons: x2 Blades: 1 has electro leap, the other disruption (P+s 13 I believe) x2 Hand Cannons Spells: Energizer Wall of Steel (Now called Bulwark, battle group models gain +2 def and no knockdown while base to base) Lightning Storm Positive Charge Electrify
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 21:46 |
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Could be nice on Trencher Commandos maybe? And nowhere else.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 22:02 |
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fnordcircle posted:Plastic is always less of a pain in the rear end. Easier to glue, easier to pin, easier to transport. Always. Unless it's one of the units that's as much mold lines as it is models. Looking at you storm knights of both ilk.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 01:17 |
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Alpha Phoenix posted:Is there a confirmation on what will be available? According to the PP Newsletter, it's the five new 'casters ($24.99 each) and the 11 old con-exclusive sculpts.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 22:46 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 22:19 |
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Jay Larsen's Twitter has all the new Warcaster cards. I only really know Cygnar and the Protectorate but I'm psyched for Jakes and Tristan.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 14:55 |