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AugmentedVision posted:because the game is actually pretty unfun and nobody would play it without the sunk cost fallacy aspect Again, I have not played since high school, but i feel like the game is very fun and a good mix of strategy and luck. What I don't get or like is the high price.
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eric posted:When my friends and I played we'd print out copies of the good cards and glue them to basic lands and allow four per deck. Those games were fun and the cards were hilariously broken even 15 years ago. there is no way you can shuffle the cards like that. they best way to pirate magic cards is with card sleeves, they hold the paper in just stick a normal magic card in with it loose. i hope Shkreli crashes the MtG secondary market with his tom foolery. thats a bubble that has been waiting to burst for a long time!
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the best thing for these people would be for someone to buy up the lynch pin of their collection so they can finally see that it is time to unload their entire set and move on from that game i played it in 4th edition and it was a good game but i looked at the game again some time later and it looked retarded
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gary oldmans diary posted:the best thing for these people would be for someone to buy up the lynch pin of their collection so they can finally see that it is time to unload their entire set and move on from that game Yeah the game got "retarded" when the designers finally figured out what they were doing, it was so much better when it was a giant loving mess, you stupid old gently caress
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I am confused and therefore enraged.
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tenspott posted:It's actually not foolproof because there's a really limited market for this poo poo and people will just say gently caress it and not buy from him. He's making a market play on the assumption that the market will pay for these if squeezed, I think he could be right..
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synftw posted:He's making a market play on the assumption that the market will pay for these if squeezed, I think he could be right.. Yeah, I don't think the "price drops to $50" scenario is likely because most people who would be buying those cards in the first place will be invested enough in the game to take it that seriously.
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This is why I play Hearthstone.
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hearthstone is cool as a concept i guess but the game feels like app store free to play bullshit more than it does an actual game
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i knew a bunch of people that played yi-gi-oh in high school. they were weird.
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He is literally turning into Seto Kaiba. I hope he builds a gigantic isolated island to have poor people dance to his tune, before finally being defeated in a karmic way, possibly by Bill Murray and the Wu-Tang Clan.
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AugmentedVision posted:Yeah the game got "retarded" when the designers finally figured out what they were doing, it was so much better when it was a giant loving mess, you stupid old gently caress
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AugmentedVision posted:Yeah the game got "retarded" when the designers finally figured out what they were doing, it was so much better when it was a giant loving mess, you stupid old gently caress
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AugmentedVision posted:Yeah the game got "retarded" when the designers finally figured out what they were doing, it was so much better when it was a giant loving mess, you stupid old gently caress your right, 4th edition sucked. they really hit their stride in urza block 
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this is some weak wrist poo poo. Call me when Martin is cornering the Rembrandt market like a real baller. No seriously, Martin is like the paulie shore of failed, washed out fund managers: A joke to even the rank amateurs.
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ArbitraryC posted:I would say it got a bit too streamlined in certain ways that are offputting to people who enjoyed earlier editions. aka grognard complaint
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Rutibex posted:your right, 4th edition sucked. they really hit their stride in urza block Pretty much, I started at that time (4th) I didn't play for a long time and came back right as the new style borders happened for a stint during the reign of original Affinity in standard, quit playing right after Betrayers and came back around Scars of Mirridon oddly enough. I got my fair share of pricey old stuff though, circa 2005 my sis got a bunch of Revised cards off a dude for around $50, pretty much 1 of every dual and playsets of a couple and two off's of several others. (was 4 Underground Seas but one got stolen a looong time ago.) I mostly play Modern now though. So I'm not particularly worried about this.
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Was 4th edition before or after the big rule revision that made it so you didn't have to telepathically divine what the designers meant when they wrote the text on the card
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AugmentedVision posted:aka grognard complaint That's not even really true, sure the wording got better but lots of things are stupid with how much it sets off at a competitive level.
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AugmentedVision posted:aka grognard complaint Nah there's certain stuff like combat damage no longer using the stack and the modern emphasis on incredibly efficient and cheap beaters that are hard to deal with that I think are p legit complaints.
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AugmentedVision posted:Was 4th edition before or after the big rule revision that made it so you didn't have to telepathically divine what the designers meant when they wrote the text on the card You're thinking of what became known as errata/oracle text. Don't know for sure when it started but now days you can look it up on their website and it'll tell you what the official wording is vs. what the card says. Some cases it matters as well.
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ArbitraryC posted:Nah there's certain stuff like combat damage no longer using the stack and the modern emphasis on incredibly efficient and cheap beaters that are hard to deal with that I think are p legit complaints. So you want more cards that do nothing?
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Nah I googled and I'm talking about the 6th edition overhaul. 4th edition apparently the stack didn't even exist? Lol ok I'm sure the game was great back then
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For reference I was a competitive limited player up to about ravnica and even tho I stopped playing the game for other reasons when i later kinda checked back into it (some college friends were getting into it) the combat changes along with the design direction in balance was a pretty huge turnoff. I'm not saying it's an objectively worse game or anything it's just that a lot of the nuanced stuff I really enjoyed and was good at was taken out and replaced with bombs like goyf, people always complained about mtg being a pay to win game but I had all common/uncommon stuff I made from draft trash that could beat constructed netdecks just with solid play and combat gimmicks, the combat changes really made raw cost efficiency much more oppressive than it used to be.
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AugmentedVision posted:Nah I googled and I'm talking about the 6th edition overhaul. 4th edition apparently the stack didn't even exist? Lol ok I'm sure the game was great back then Pretty much, I think they were kinda called "batches" then? Like a grouping of spells, but you could have multiple ones going on. It was kinda neat to see it evolve though. I was guessing you meant the 6th edition overhaul too.
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AbbadonOfHell posted:So you want more cards that do nothing? nah I just want combat damage to use the stack as that was a huge part of the game. I understand why they changed it (it made critters with sac effects a no brainer to play out, now there's a real choice) but it also removed a lot of other subtle decisions/tricks.
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AugmentedVision posted:Yeah the game got "retarded" when the designers finally figured out what they were doing, it was so much better when it was a giant loving mess, you stupid old gently caress wipe your tears and carry on
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ArbitraryC posted:nah I just want combat damage to use the stack as that was a huge part of the game. I understand why they changed it (it made critters with sac effects a no brainer to play out, now there's a real choice) but it also removed a lot of other subtle decisions/tricks. I do feel you on that part of the complaint (also giving you hard time cause this is GBS after all) I got the vibe from the way you worded it that you thought they had "Portalfied" everything or something.
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gary oldmans diary posted:i could waste the time to google different editions of magic the gathering right now but you already outed yourself as the biggest dork Lol, you guessed wrong chief.
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all of you are the biggest dork fyi
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im pretty and smart
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Tom Gorman posted:this guy rules
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Shasta Orange Soda posted:all of you are the biggest dork fyi I've accepted that I am hopeless
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He coming for my nearmint uktabi orangutan collection
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AugmentedVision posted:Nah I googled and I'm talking about the 6th edition overhaul. 4th edition apparently the stack didn't even exist? Lol ok I'm sure the game was great back then You seem to give many fucks about the various editions of a collectable card game for children.
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Back in the day phyrexian negator was overpowered even with its drawback. Phryrexian oblitorator is loving insane and the game is broken by overpowered cunts
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i played mtg once with a friends deck and it was fun 
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AbbadonOfHell posted:I do feel you on that part of the complaint (also giving you hard time cause this is GBS after all) I got the vibe from the way you worded it that you thought they had "Portalfied" everything or something. Nah I don't think they made the game less deep or anything, there are different choices now but it's not objectively more or less complex, I just feel the changes they did make along with the balance decisions focusing more on "our players like critters" have created an environment where there are more objectively good 1/2/3 drops to play and they're harder to play around with jankier cards. Back when I played (and admittedly I mostly played limited, not standard) the most expensive rares were like 20 bucks and uncommons were like 5 because while those cards were good they were mostly only at their best utility in pro decks designed around using them, now poo poo has blown up because if you're willing to pay $$$ for goyfs or w/e it's gonna give you a huge advantage regardless of circumstance. When two top tier decks are facing off against each other it's as good as (or even better) of a game as it's ever been but the stuff they changed really mess with pauper and limited setups for the worse imo.
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https://twitter.com/bmkibler/status/605458025726361600
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Tardcore posted:lol it's ink on cardboard
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