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manyak
Jan 26, 2006

tumor looking batty posted:

lmao Teila Tuli versus that skinny guy

i always point out even though he just looks like a skinny dude next to Tuli, Gordeau actually is 6'5 and 210 lbs and a pretty decent kickboxer especially for that time. Hes also a dirty SOB who bit Gracies face and arm in their fight and later eye gouged the poo poo out of a tiny japanese guy he fought and blinded him permanently

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manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Xtanstic posted:

Hey I follow casually the UFC and lurk the monthly threads. I was wondering if someone can post a breakdown of the various gyms and training camps? Off the top of my casual head:

AKA - everyone gets hurt all the time? (cainlegextension.mpeg) Notable fighters: DC, Cain, ????
Tristar - GSP and Firas camp. Rory trains here. That Scottish chick that fought Val Letourneau had a camp there. I'm guessing all the Canadian up and comers like Oliver Aubin Mercier and Elias Theodoru. Arguably one of the best camps alongside Jackson-Wink?
Jackson-Wink - AZ based. Jon Jones, Holly Holm, a bunch of other ones. They fight smart but boring?
Duane Ludwig in Denver - TJ and uh????
Nova Uniao - Aldo, Gadelha, Barao. Have a notorious rep for full out sparring in the chute boxe vein of thinking?
Edmond gym in AZ - a bad coach and a bad camp?
TAM - uhhh chinbutt and shirtless dudes? PvZ?

Am I forgetting any major ones? Is there like a consensus "tier list" of better vs not as good gyms? I'm also curious if there are fighters who have switched camps and have showed significant improvement in their new camps? Or the opposite? Off the top off the head, I think I remember Rashad leaving Jackson-Wink when he fought Jones and he hasn't been the same since?

Its hard to make a tier list really because there are tons of places with good coaches but peoples perceptions of the gyms is overly results-oriented and colored by how different camps advertise themselves (lots of gyms actually make their money more from hobbyists and amateurs who hear about the hype and go to train somewhere, rather than the pros)

For instance AMC Pankration in washington might be one of the best gyms, but Matt Hume likes to focus on a couple guys at a time and doesnt put as much time into promoting his brand so its not considered a powerhouse. But he coaches Mighty Mouse who might be the best coached fighter of all time

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

fatherdog posted:

  • Best wrestler in his division
  • If not the best wrestler, at the very least the best at setting up takedowns with strikes and vice versa
  • Plowed the vast majority of his earnings back into his training for years, constantly travelling to train with the best coaches available and hiring world-class athletes in their individual disciplines for training camps
  • Serious OCD resulted in obsessive preparation for every single fight
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Even more impressive because 170 has always been so deep with really good wrestlers like Hughes, Sherk, through to koscheck and Fitch, Shields, Hendricks, and despite being Canadian and not having a base in wrestling GSP somehow became the best at neutralizing wrestlers and beating them at their own game. He was just tailor made to beat that style of fighter and it should say a lot that he is the betting favorite over Woodley despite being retired

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
Willie Dee sucks

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
I think its ok to not like watching striking but its kinda funny that watching fake wrestling there they do big choreographed slaps and stomp the ground and stuff can desensitize you to what it looks like when people actually getting punched

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manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Aye Doc posted:

I like watching dudes get knocked out. Chuck Liddell's career is very entertaining for me to watch since win or lose, someone is probably getting (T)KO'd (62% of his wins and 75% of his losses). i'm trying to find some other fighters who turned out like this, I thought Tito would be good for this but at 44%/33% he's pretty weak. can't even get knocked unconscious good enough, Tito. Rich Franklin is at 52% and 71%. are there any other guys I should be trying to track down to fit this weird fightpass craving?

Alistair overeem
Wanderlei silva
Dan henderson post-2007

some newer ones:

Cody Garbrandt
Doo ho choi
Jimi Manuwa

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