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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > "Say You Want This": A New Breaking Bad Thread
 
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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Escobarbarian posted:

They're all equally stupid.

What is the second one? I acquit was easily the stupidest thing I've ever seen argued

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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
 Oh I don't remember that. Lol at 30 Rock ever being racist non sarcastically though

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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
 His actions caused her to lay on her back, and she died as a result of the asphyxiation.

I mean we know this bc it's tv but yeah he's directly related to the reason she died

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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Meta Ridley posted:

Heroin is directly related to the reason she died. Unintentionally causing her to lay on her back indirectly caused her to choke on her vomit due to the direct cause of heroin overdose.

Ethically, willful inaction is the same as a willful action, so he is definitely responsible for her death even though he didn't directly kill her. He made a conscious decision not to help her avoid death so I agree it was murder, just not premeditated.

I actually don't see that as his turning point though. Walt has conflicted feelings about what he did. I think his final turning point is in the fly episode much later. I always took the fly/"contamination" in that episode to represent a realization of what he had become and a last chance to redeem himself before becoming a monster, by telling Jesse the truth about Jane, and which he decides against and completes the transformation.
I could be wrong though it's been a long time since I've watched BB.

Oh I honestly forget - did he not move her onto her back?

poo poo I thought he moved her onto her back by actually touching her. Then you'd argue eggshell doctrine if the heroin was brought up, because it doesn't matter how you find your victim, you take them as they are

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