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Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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ImplicitAssembler posted:

Also, thanks to whoever it was who recommended the Macromax loupe. It works awesome.

Glad to hear you like it! Also that you got one before the prices spiked.

ImplicitAssembler posted:

I converted my changing bag into a dark cloth and still find the ground glass very dark...granted this was indoors, but I was struggling to compose. (Yes, wide open).

I guess that not all ground glass is made equal?

Ground glass is one of those things that looks really simple at first glance but can have quite a lot going into it. The quality of the glass itself matters, of course. On top of that, some ground glass will have a Fresnel built into help with your perceived brightness, and there are other manufacturing tricks people use to get them better. You can add a Fresnel if it bothers you (token ebay link - check your dimensions). There are a few companies that will offer better ground glass for any large-format camera you care to measure for them, but past a certain point (for example, Bill Maxwell's incredibly excellent screens can run you $500+ at the high end) you're better off just selling the camera and buying a Chamonix.

There's supposedly a very old trick of waxing your ground glass to make it brighter (a very, very thin layer of paraffin rubbed into the frosted side of your glass), but I don't know exactly what's in your Intrepid or how well it would work.

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Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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ansel autisms posted:

Loading in a tent is super easy and you'll regret not doing it the first time you fog a bunch of sheets because you didn't perfectly tape up every pinhole

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/172903-REG/Harrison_1000_Pup_Film_Changing_Tent.html

Has Harrison figured out the problem with their lining yet, or are they still long-term consumables? I remember for a few years there I was hearing about how if you didn't store their tents open their insides turned into gluey messes over time.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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ImplicitAssembler posted:

Then I went up to the mountains, got setup by a small lake I'd scouted a few weeks back and realized I'd forgotten my loupe!

Consider chucking one of these foldy things into a side pocket on your camera bag and forgetting about it. They're terrible and un-fun next to a real loupe (especially next to the Macromax) but they'll get you where you need to go in a pinch.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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For anyone who shoots E6 6x7, someone has one of the very excellent Mamiya Cabin projectors up on eBay. Right now it's under a hundred dollars with ~8 hours left, and there are a few in the $350-500 range if you miss out and have some money burning a hole in your pocket. Medium/large slides deserve to be projected; they're heartbreakingly beautiful when you get to see them as intended.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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mAlfunkti0n posted:

Someone had once told me about a company that rebuilds Kiev MF cameras but I can’t remember the name of the company. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

That's almost certainly Arax.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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theHUNGERian posted:

"viewfinder vignetting" = "the viewfinder vignettes the film" OR "the image in the viewfinder has vignetting but the film does not have vignetting"?

The latter.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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CodfishCartographer posted:

Another LF gear question! Anyone have recommendations for a relatively inexpensive spot meter? Preferably under $250 usd. I don't need flash metering or anything like that. I've got a small handheld sekonic that does great incident and reflective but no spot, so I can use that for now but would prefer to get a spot meter for LF. The only one I can find in that price range seems to be the Pentax Honeywell 1/21, but that takes some combination of 9v and mercury batteries that I'm not crazy on trying to make sure I get correct. Every once in a while it seems Sekonic L-508s go for as low as 250 on ebay which would be ideal, but if there's something that may be a bit easier to find in that price range I'm all ears.

I think the Minolta Spotmeter F is pretty much exactly what you're looking for.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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theHUNGERian posted:

Any recommendations for a long lens support? I have a 350 mm lens for an RZ67, but unfortunately the lens didn't come with the standard support bracket, nor can I find one on ebay. I don't want to use the lens without the support bracket. Amazon has a few options in the $50 range. Are they any good or is the RRS worth every cent?

Here's an original for £80 and shipping.

I didn't know RRS made a lens bracket for the RZ, but don't give Joe Johnson money if you can avoid it.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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theHUNGERian posted:

One question: I used thedarkroom.com for developing/scanning, and they supplied jpgs. Is that normal? I was expecting tifs.

Very, very few places are equipped to supply TIFF, even if you ask for it. Generally that's a premium and per-frame service.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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Google Butt posted:

Has anyone used a 6x9 slide in roll film back with a chamonix n2? The thickness of the backs vary a little between manufacturers (thus moving the film plane?), and I'm not sure if it's enough to make a difference when focusing.

Found this little chart for reference:

Model Type / Formats / Depth
Cambo slide-in / 6x4.5 / 4.95mm
Cambo slide-in / 6x7, 6x9 / 4.95mm
Cambo slide-in / 6x12 / 4.95mm
Horseman clip-on / 6x7,6x9 / 4.95mm
Horseman clip-on / 6x12 / 4.95mm
Linhof S-Rollex clip-on / 6x7,6x9 / 4.85mm
Linhof Rapid Rollex slide-in / 6x7 / 4.85mm
Linhof Techno-Rollex clip-on / 6x12 / 4.85mm
Sinar Zoom slide-in / 6x4.5 to 6x12 / 4.85mm
Sinar standard slide-in / 6x7, 6x9 / 4.85mm
Toyo clip-on / 6x7,6x9 / 5.05mm
Wista clip-on / 6x7, 6x9 / 5.10mm
Wista Type DX / slide-in 6x7, 6x9 / 5.10mm

I don't know how your source measured and I can't speak to its accuracy, but here goes...

Per ANSI spec IT3.108-1998, the standard depth of a 4x5 film holder is 5mm +/- .178mm, with minimum .30mm clearance for film. Thickness of 4x5 sheet film varies a little bit, but is generally right around 0.17mm-0.18mm, which would put you right up next to that 4.85mm number.

That said, the 4.95mm should be "acceptably sharp" if that's what you're going for. There's a minimum .30mm depth for the film rail height in a sheet film holder, which means you've got .12mm (ish) worth of slop in the best case regardless. My optics math is pretty rusty, but a back-of-the-envelope estimate says that, if you're using a 150mm lens, working distance of 5 meters, 0.1mm movement means a critical focus shift of about 10cm, a touch under four inches. Your depth of field should cover unless you're shooting a 2.8 Xenotar wide open or something; if you're doing critical focus work you may want to get some good calipers and measure your camera from the contact surface to the ground glass.

Based on your numbers, I would be a little skeptical of the >5mm depths at first glance, which strikes me as odd because Toyo generally makes pretty excellent gear. That might be a factor from slightly different designs and expectations?

e: minor clarifications; I'm running late to an appointment

Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 8, 2021

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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Why do I have the urge lately to put together some obscenely large ULF rig?
What dead and careless gods do I pray to, to save me from my own worst impulses? I don't think I burned a single frame of film in any size between April 2020 and April 2021.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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alkanphel posted:

Yeah I haven't shot a single frame of film in 2 years but I still encourage you to build that ULF rig :unsmigghh:

The really stupid thing is that I mostly do "people" photos. You get up to 600mm+, and at "people" ranges your depth of field is only going to be a few to maybe ten inches, even at f/64.

e: This is to say, I'm not sure how well it works; ULF prints are jawdropping but the ultra-thin depth of field might make everything look overbokeh'd, like those pictures where someone bought a Noctilux and seems like they glued the aperture ring wide open?

Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jun 11, 2021

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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bobmarleysghost posted:

what problem are you trying to solve for that would require ulf gear?

I had a whisky-induced (I think) dream of making ENORMOUS alt-process prints. I admit and agree that besides the "only even more so!" it's a ridiculously expensive upgrade relative to 8x10. And taking it places becomes a project unto itself - the old joke about nothing photogenic being more than 500 yards from the car sounds about right. I have hiked an 8x10 and all its accessories up a small mountain before but even I'm not crazy enough to lug anything bigger.

bobmarleysghost posted:

if you haven't shot a frame in 2 years i don't think buying more gear is going to fix the underlying issue.

It's only been one year, because of the pandemic. Alkanphel's the one up to two years. :) And because of the soul-crushing work-life balance, mostly driven by the pandemic (I do at least have an exit plan if it doesn't get better). Over that year I can count on my fingers the number of times I got to spend face-to-face social time with anyone, and probably have enough left over to measure myself a drink. I am picking the pieces back up, slowly; I shot most of a roll of 35mm in May, and I have some ideas for some medium/4x5 macro stuff later this month once I get some apartment chores done. It'll be a longer-term project; first I have to get my motions and rhythm back, you know?

Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jun 11, 2021

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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Paul MaudDib posted:

You could go to a super tiny aperture (f/256?) and use flash. That’s how they’d do those life sized Polaroids.

Yeah, it's definitely... possible. I just have to figure out whether I can get the kinds of pictures that I want out of the deal, and then whether the cost is something I'm willing to slam down on the negotiating table.

For example, I like having a little sense of 'place' in my photos, even if it's only impressionistic. A white-walled studio is definitely the straightest line to making the big pictures happen, but the price is high. It might be that 8x10 is about as big as I can go and still get tick all the boxes.

Dreams are hard to kill though. :)

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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nadav posted:

That’s a loupe on the top left, but on the rare occasion that I’m carrying a 2nd lens, it’d go there. Film holders on the left. Dark cloth above the ICU, meter & filters in the front pocket.

Hi Macromax buddy!

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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kreeningsons posted:

I bought a Mamiya M converter a few years ago which I think should allow me to slap some sort of Mamiya film back on the goose, but I honestly lost track of this project and what film back I intended to buy.

You need the back from a Mamiya Universal Press. The 6x9 back will most closely duplicate the shooting experience. There's a G adapter that lets you use RB67 backs, too.

Also I know a source with a little bit of the Fujiroid to spare; drop me a PM if you really want and I may be able to hook you up with some at (vaguely) reasonable prices.

Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 21, 2021

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Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

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theHUNGERian posted:

I see a lot of photos of LF lenses with handwritten labels indicating the f-stop. Why would the actual f-stop be different from the one indicated on the shutter/lens? How do people measure the actual f-stop?

The F-stop is a ratio between aperture and focal length, so If a lens is moved to a donor shutter that used to hold a different-length lens, the old markings have nothing to do with the new lens, and handwriting a label is cheaper/easier/faster than getting a new one etched. Calculating the new ones is a relatively simple matter of measuring the aperture, either directly by taking the diameter, or by proxy with relative light transmission.

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