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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

SomeMathGuy posted:

At least now they'll finally seem like a threat again!

You know, now that they just got split up in the draft.
I'm glad they are getting split off so Braun can flounder so badly that they release him into the sun

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Smart money is in

WWE Championship Triple Threat Match
Dean Ambrose (-1500) vs. Seth Rollins (+1150) vs. Roman Reigns (+1550)

WWE Intercontinental Championship
The Miz (-1200) vs. Darren Young (+600)

WWE United States Championship
Rusev (-2000) vs. Zack Ryder (+1000)

Sami Zayn (-2000) vs. Kevin Owens (+1000)

The Wyatt Family (-1700) vs. The New Day (+800)

John Cena, Enzo Amore and Big Cass (-600) vs. AJ Styles, Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson (+400)

Natalya (-1700) vs. Becky Lynch (+800)

Sasha Banks and a Mystery Partner (-2000) vs. Dana Brooke and WWE Women's Champion Charlotte (+1000)

Breezango (-1350) vs. The Usos (+650)

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Enzo and Cass were the favorites too and Apollo was also going to take the IC belt, but the betting shifted it seems; though it does that a lot in the early goings.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

rovert posted:

Happy to see Leah Vaughan the former Leah Von Dutch show up on the radar again. I thought she was transition out of Wrestling about a year ago. But since then she went back to Wrestling training and essentially got retrained, went on a long tour with STARDOM and is about tour Europe.

Surprised there was no Dusty Classic.
Perhaps they want some breathing room with the CWC still going on? That and hope they can get the Bucks when their contracts run out in December?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Brian also hit a Burning Hammer on Kota and got a 2 count

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Grozz Nuy posted:

Why would you have TJ Perkins go over two guys you already have under contract
Because it makes things more interesting when the only talent that can win are not the ones under contract?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

SomeMathGuy posted:

So who's turning, Rollins probably? Or will they do a "Meh, these heels are popular with fans anyway, just do a heel/heel match" sort of thing?

Either way :woop:
Honestly just have HHH go full NXT Paul and Owens is already cheered enough that he can be an Anti-hero fighting against the Corporate Stooge and the she-harpy

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

rovert posted:

This iteration of the McMahon family drama will be worth it when Owens and Triple H open Raw the Monday after CM Punk's loss
I can't wait for the Braunnnnnnnnnnnnn jobber to be a CM Punk parody

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Skinty McEdger posted:

Sounds like Vince just got a look at the booking.
That or John politicking for his girlfriend to win

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

sticklefifer posted:

It was never going to be anything but what Vince decided 10 minutes before and probably during the show while munching a steak wrap. We just have more insight into his changes by the minute nowadays.
That and he probably just saw the ratings from Tuesday and panicked

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Really early Clash of Champions Betting Odds

quote:

WWE Universal Championship
Kevin Owens -1050 vs Seth Rollins +550

WWE United States Championship
Rusev +480 vs Roman Reigns -840

WWE Tag Team Championships
The New Day +330 vs Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson -490

WWE Women’s Championship Triple Threat Match
Charlotte -390 vs Sasha Banks +270 vs Bayley +270 (Sasha Banks and Bayley are considered in the “field”, meaning a wager placed against Charlotte includes either woman at +270)

WWE Cruiserweight Championship
T.J. Perkins -930 vs Brian Kendrick +510

Alicia Fox +850 vs Nia Jax -1750

Cesaro +185 vs Sheamus -265
Have fun seeing Cesaro in NJPW I guess :smith:

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Venomous posted:

Smart money isn't in yet (so I can easily see Sheamus/Cesaro going either way), but hot drat, if TND are really dropping the titles tomorrow I really really really want them to stay together afterwards.
To be fair the New Day should have dropped their titles a while ago and Big E should be getting a big singles push with Xaiver and Kofi tagging and managing

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

NienNunb posted:

The Kings reuniting would make my life.
It would be funny if the rumors are true and Hero goes back to the WWE just as Cesaro leaves it

Eh I like Cesaro in the WWE because its more convenient for me to be able to watch his matches live

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Other than the Bray Orton and Swagger Corbin matches (one of which is a preshow match) the other matches should be fun and solid

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Luckily they seem to realize that when their big tryouts they had September had a lot of vet indy women talent in it.


E: Paul's wrath knows no bounds when you refuse to take a picture with him after signing a full time contract

achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 14, 2016

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

CVagts posted:

So the Authors of Pain are either winning the Dusty Classic or getting gently caress finished out of it, right?
I can see Gargano and Ciampa beating them and TM61 getting eliminated by Sanity or AOP win after Ciampa turns on Johnny and then AOP TM61 in the finals

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
The Brian Kendrick is going to win by cheating and so many people are going to be pissed even though he's been cheating literally since the CWC started

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
:lol: Shane is the 5th member

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

NoMoneyDown posted:

So did the RAM writers migrate to Smackdown or something? It seems like such a RAM decision that "oh we need another 5th member. :lol: Shane."
Unlike those cowards Foley and Steph, Shane fights for his brand in the trenches of this ratings war

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

RealFoxy posted:

And the only reason that Kendrick is losing is because Vince doesn't want the vanilla midgets anymore
Then why are they going to be featured on the show he heavily invests on?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Here is the smart money from 5Dimes

Brock Lesnar +500
Bill Goldberg -900

Money has continued to come in on Goldberg. He was -475 twenty minutes ago.

Team Raw Men +700
Team SD Men -1500

Team Smackdown's number has been backed from -530 since 10:40pm GMT.

Team Raw Women -900
Team SD Women +500

The Raw ladies' number was -400 at around 10:20pm.

Team Raw Tags -1050
Team SD Tags +550

This market hasn't changed within the last twenty minutes.

The Miz -1700
Sami Zayn +800

Miz's number has shortened further. He was -350 at 10.40pm.

Brian Kendrick -1200
Kalisto +600

Kendrick's number has moved in from -530.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
I'm guessing Vince wants to see if the cruisers really want it by having them wrestling on Raw and then traveling to where SD is the next day to film 205.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Benne posted:

This just raises more questions. I know the NXT production crew is made up of Full Sail students, so was this like a finals project they cooked up together? And if so, how were they able to wrangle Big Show into it?
They promised him an new experimental vape flavor

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Here are the full spoilers for the tapings

December 7th Episode:

* NXT Tag Team Champions Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa came out to a pop and greeted fans throughout the crowd. They entered the ring for a promo but The Authors of Pain came out before they could talk. Paul Ellering spoke from the top of the ramp about how they should be champions but The Revival’s music hit and they came out to the stage. Fans chanted “you tapped out!” as they head to the ring. Dawson starts talking about getting their rematch. The Authors come down the ramp and push The Revival down. Ellering got back on the mic and said the next chapter will read The Authors of Pain as the next NXT Tag Team Champions. The Authors, then The Revival head back up the ramp. DIY leaves the ring without ever getting the mic.

* Alexander Wolfe and Eric Young defeated No Way Jose and WWE Cruiserweight Champion Rich Swann. The crowd popped for everyone during their entrances. Before the match, Young stomped on Sawyer Fulton’s jacket and threw it out of the ring. Sanity dominated most of the match, beating down Swann for a long period of time. Jose got a hot tag and cleaned house. Big Damo showed up outside of the ring and slammed Jose against the ring post. EY pulled Jose into the ring and hit a modified cutter-neckbreaker for the pin. Damo left by himself up the ramp and chucked a Sanity jacket on the ground. It was not clear if he’s with them or not.

* Ember Moon defeated Queen Kimber, who was used as an enhancement talent. She actually got some offense in but Ember howled and hit her finisher for the quick win.

* Tucker Knight and Otis Dozovic defeated enhancement talents Johnny Knockout and Bradene Knight. Crowd chanted “big, sweaty men!” as Otis and Tucker dominated the match. Otis hit his finisher for the win. They were both very over with the crowd and worked well together, very agile.

December 14th Episode:

* Tye Dillinger comes out and it’s announced that there will be 4 matches to decide who will compete in a Fatal 4 Way to decide a new #1 contender. Eric Young and Sanity are out next. Eric Young vs. Tye Dillinger lasts about a minute as Nikki Cross interferes and attacks Dillinger. Dillinger wins by DQ. Big Damo shows up again and decimates Dillinger in the ring. Damo walks up the ramp past Sanity and leaves on his own again. It should be noted that Sawyer Fulton has been absent tonight.

* Andrade “Cien” Almas defeated No Way Jose to qualify for the Fatal 4 Way. This was a good back and forth match. Almas hit a modified DDT for the win.

* Roderick Strong defeated Elias Samson to qualify for the Fatal 4 Way. Samson was booed mercifully as he played his guitar. Elias got in a bunch of early offense but Strong got the pin in around 3 minutes.

* Bobby Roode defeated Oney Lorcan to qualify for the Fatal 4 Way. Lorcan got a good pop from the crowd but nothing compared to Roode… it was glorious! Lorcan got some stiff European uppercuts in. Roode hit the Glorious Drop for the win.

* Peyton Royce defeated Sarah Bridges (Crazy Mary Dobson). Bridges looked very impressive with early offense and was over with the crowd. Royce ends up getting the pin with a fisherman’s suplex

* Shinsuke Nakamura defeated Patrick Clark in under 4 minutes. There was some flamboyant comedy by Clark but Nakamura ends the match quickly.

December 21st Episode:

* Billie Kay defeated Daria with her big boot finisher thanks to outside interference from Peyton Royce. Billie takes the mic after the match but the crowd drowns her out with boos. The match lasted less than 3 minutes.

* The Authors of Pain squashed two enhancement talents. This was a serious beatdown. The referee stopped the match before they could hit their finisher. Trainers come out and check on one of the wrestlers. Paul Ellering gets on the mic and says they don’t care who they face – DIY or The Revival, they will be winning the titles in San Antonio at Takeover.

* Bobby Roode defeated Andrade “Cien” Almas, Tye Dillinger and Roderick Strong in a Fatal 4 Way Elimination Match to become the new #1 contender. Strong and Almas were in the ring a lot early on. Lots of stiff shots by Almas. The first elimination came at 11:20 as Strong pinned Almas. The second elimination came at 13:00 when Tye pinned Strong. Roode then pinned Dillinger at the 18:25 mark to become the new #1 contender.

* NXT Tag Team Champions Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa retained over Dash and Dawson in their Takeover: Toronto rematch. Good back and forth match as always between these two teams. DIY dominated more than they did at Takeover. They hit their finisher around the 12:00 mark to retain and end the tapings

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
The Sami Zayn/Brauuuuuuuun line is pretty close is telling me that its probably reaching the time limit draw

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

oatgan posted:

its the only streak wwe has left
I wonder who at the last hour or two convinces Vince that Charlotte has got to keep winning on the PPV? Hasn't she already set the record at this point?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Guess Ryan Satin wasn't full of poo poo with them keeping that bad name

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Tato posted:

he sucks but he was right, giving him +100 wrestling scoop points. our scoopman does nothing but post about Charlotte sucking and Ric Flair making GBS threads his pants. we should trade for the superior scoopman.
Rov has actually been pretty fair to Charlotte for months now.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

sportsgenius86 posted:

I'd laugh if that's just a dark segment to troll people with that lovely name
I mean it looked like a dark seg that was filmed to pop interest on facebook and they are still using assets from 2013 so maybe when he redebuts he comes out with a new theme and the Chris Hero name?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Benne posted:

I'm still scratching my head over Orton's high odds. He's been involved in this Wyatt thing for a long time, and when the blowoff comes I don't see how that needs a title or main event slot involved.
In the Observer the theory is that Orton wins the Rumble, while Bray wins the title at Elimination Chamber, setting up the title match at mania

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Eh that's not the full card

I think the IC will be the blowoff between Miz and Dean
CWs will inherit the multi man ladder match
AA vs Usos

Cesaro and Sheamus vs a Raw Tag Team

Becky vs Mickie

Interbrand Women's tag match

Braun winning the battle royale

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Also money is on Neville, Charlotte, Roman, and Cena winning their matches, however this is really early money and Styles is still -120 while Cena is at -140. Neville and Charlotte seem to be the only outright favorites to win

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Grozz Nuy posted:

They probably made those graphics before Zack turned down their contract offer and just forgot to fix it, if I had to guess
That or Zack Ryder before he got injured

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Chris James 2 posted:

What if it's just silence

Because of all the winners there could be, he seems likeliest to generate no reaction beyond "huh"
He'll probably do a cool RKO to win it so the crowd will pop for it

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Strawberry Panda posted:

Welp if Goldberg is going to squash KO in less time than Lesnar than there's no way in hell I'm watching Fastlane.
I mean they kind of booked themselves into a corner in there

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Grozz Nuy posted:

Why is Roddy suddenly a babyface for no apparent reason, that's dumb
He was always kind of a babyface in NXT after Aries got injured

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Kaz joined Bullet Club :lol:

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
ROH show was cool even if with dumb booking decisions like canceling a Tempura Boyz match with the MCMG just so they push a storyline with the loving Rebellion

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Kawalimus posted:

Why would they get rid of Drifter off NXT? He was a perfect jobber there. What can he really do on the main roster?
Anger Corey who thought he was done with calling Drifter matches

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/Robi2184/status/835297871708766208
:lol: Yes


Venomous posted:

So wait, is it Asuka/Ember in Orlando or Asuka/Nikki? Because I really hope (a) it's Asuka/Nikki (b) if it is, Nikki wins.
It's Ember/Asuka, really I would push for Nikki for the belt when they hopefully they do a Sanity takes all the belts storyline (after hopefully kicking out Eric Young for someone that isn't awful)

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