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Geoj posted:So now its coming out that a commander within the department has been suspended without pay for fabricating details about the shooting - Progress E: lol a former swat team member Burt Sexual fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jul 23, 2016 |
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Geoj posted:So based on this the North Miami PD considers making poo poo up about an unjustified officer-involved shooting as a more serious offense than the actual unjustified shooting I mean in a lot of ways it is. You can't have justice without truth. "I didn't know what to do, panicked, and shot at the autistic guy who didn't understand why we were shouting to put his toy truck down" is actually a valid response to an unjustified shooting. It's lovely, it means the cop needs to go back to cop school*, but it's valid. Lying about it is unforgivable. If cops didn't feel ok lying about this poo poo we'd have a lot less shootings. *and cop school should be teaching cops that shooting is a last resort
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Jul 23, 2016 04:59
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Klyith posted:It's lovely, it means the cop needs to go back to cop school*, but it's valid. No, the cop who "panicked" needs to be tried, convicted and sent to prison just like anyone else would - not given a paid vacation and then sent to training that will be forgotten 30 seconds after it finishes because that officer knows he can ignore it and never be held accountable for his actions.
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Jul 23, 2016 05:08
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Why do you hate the people who want to help you the most Geoj?
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Jul 23, 2016 05:10
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Klyith posted:I mean in a lot of ways it is. You can't have justice without truth. To be fair, if you had a gun pointed at someone who could very well be a TVIV poster, your brain would automatically send signals to your hand before you even knew what you were doing. It's a reflex almost impossible to suppress.
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Jul 23, 2016 05:20
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they're fighting the war out there so we don't have to
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Jul 23, 2016 05:22
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Geoj posted:No, the cop who "panicked" needs to be tried, convicted and sent to prison just like anyone else would - not given a paid vacation and then sent to training that will be forgotten 30 seconds after it finishes because that officer knows he can ignore it and never be held accountable for his actions. If you have already condemned him to prison, why try and convict him. Are you a literal retard?
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Jul 23, 2016 05:33
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Cartouche posted:If you have already condemned him to prison, why try and convict him. Are you a literal retard? rinaldos shopping for play-dates
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Jul 23, 2016 05:46
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Cops hate tennis? https://twitter.com/mzi80/status/755178885579436032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw In the video, the policeman walks into the middle of the playing area and tells the players to "get off the court". Troicki, famed for his recent Wimbledon outburst at an umpire, waves his arms towards the sky complaining about the apparent lack of rain, before the policeman responds "Do you want to knock it off now? Knock it off. Leave, come on. Let's go. "I didn't ask for your permission [to get off the court], I'm telling you." At this point, Tomic approaches from the opposite side of the court with a cutting observation. "Excuse me, sir, but it's not raining." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/bernard-tomic-viktor-troicki-ordered-off-court-by-police-officer/7650934
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Jul 23, 2016 17:31
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Lime Tonics posted:Cops hate tennis? this is the lamest story congrats
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Jul 23, 2016 17:48
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Lime Tonics posted:Cops hate tennis? lol, look at the bald fucker getting up in their face trying to intimidate them. A calm "leave the court or I'm going to have to arrest you" would have sufficed (although I don't get why it's anyones problem but their own if it starts raining on them), but this seems like the kind of guy that takes any opportunity he can get to power trip, no matter how petty. loving pathetic
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Jul 23, 2016 18:50
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turns out a lot of pathetic people end up becoming cops to compensate
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Jul 23, 2016 19:34
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:turns out a lot of pathetic people end up becoming cops to compensate I can't imagine the dudes who can't pass psych. Even tho I know one.
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Jul 23, 2016 19:36
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Trompe le Monde posted:Maybe they were trying to shoot the autist because they don't want any competition for police jobs 
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Jul 23, 2016 19:45
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Why do you love trump so much?
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Lime Tonics posted:Cops hate tennis? This is kind of lame, cop probably thinks it's just as dumb and absurd but his bosses want the area cleared so it's not like he can just say "nah bro, its cool".
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Jul 23, 2016 20:36
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Justin Godscock posted:This is kind of lame, cop probably thinks it's just as dumb and absurd but his bosses want the area cleared so it's not like he can just say "nah bro, its cool". but why would you even want to clear a pitch over loving rain 
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Jul 23, 2016 20:42
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:but why would you even want to clear a pitch over loving rain small dick
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Jul 23, 2016 20:47
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my sister's friend got a gun put in her face by our neighbor a few years ago, because she was suspiciously black in our white neighborhood you see. the charges pressed are finally moving forward and its looking like he will be prosecuted so i'm waiting to see if it blows up into a thing.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:04
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Do cops receive any training on how handle people with mental disabilities? You'd think it would make a lot of sense to take some of the same courses as social workers, so they could handle situations besides of using the ol' standby of screaming and pointing a gun. There would be overlap with people who are drugged up too. You can avoid escalation pretty easily. If you ask a cop you would probably get an answer like "I'm a cop, not some sissy social worker!". I never understood police worship. Yeah they "fight crime", and yes they are necessary for society. But also so is garbage collecting, construction work, and a whole lot of stuff that's needed to make daily life work but people don't line up to kiss their rear end. "They face danger everyday! ". so does every single person working with machinery, vehicles and boats.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:34
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Shnag posted:Do cops receive any training on how handle people with mental disabilities? You'd think it would make a lot of sense to take some of the same courses as social workers, so they could handle situations besides of using the ol' standby of screaming and pointing a gun. There would be overlap with people who are drugged up too. You can avoid escalation pretty easily. If you ask a cop you would probably get an answer like "I'm a cop, not some sissy social worker!". Why do you hate
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Jul 23, 2016 21:37
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Shnag posted:Do cops receive any training on how handle people with mental disabilities? You'd think it would make a lot of sense to take some of the same courses as social workers, so they could handle situations besides of using the ol' standby of screaming and pointing a gun. There would be overlap with people who are drugged up too. You can avoid escalation pretty easily. If you ask a cop you would probably get an answer like "I'm a cop, not some sissy social worker!". I have a friend who works as a social worker for those with mental disabilities. Short answer, cops have zero training on how to deal with them. An example: he had a client with a mental disability FREAK THE gently caress OUT and went nuts - he was schizophrenic along with being autistic. This happened luckily outside a hospital but someone called the police because they thought some psycho was out to beat up people. Cops came, and despite my friend telling the officers how to handle the situation, they grouped up on the schizophrenic autistic client, slammed him to the ground, cuffed him, and then threw him into the back of an ambulance head-first. The police are trained to deal with the general populace and civilians. People with special needs are not on that list because it honestly takes a lot of training to know how to read the situation, understand it, and handle it. It also takes a lot of time, and that time can be better spent going after other criminal activity. So basically, cops come in, restrain physically with excessive force, and then get them into an ambulance or into a situation to have the person injected with drugs or "calmed down". Long story short: it's incredibly easy for someone with mental disabilities to be shot by cops.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:50
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You try to explain anything to a cop and you can physically watch his eyes glaze over. You may as well be speaking Swahili if your sleeve doesn't have more stripes on it than his.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:00
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all things being equal, a spazzy 6'3" serb would pound the poo poo out of the average cowardly, fat pig. serbs and turks don't gently caress around.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:00
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Paramedic friend of mine got called for a 15 year old autistic kid who was having a meltdown. Cops show up and one of them, a well known meathead, immediately puts the kid in some kind of hold. Medic: Hey, hey, stop, that's just gonna wind him up more! Cop: This isn't choking him, it's a standard hold. Medic: This is MY scene, and I'm asking you to please standard UN-hold him. *cop begrudgingly lets go, situation gets de-escalated without violence*
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Jul 23, 2016 22:01
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Ringo Star Get posted:I have a friend who works as a social worker for those with mental disabilities. Short answer, cops have zero training on how to deal with them. They could at least get a field guide of the insane and autistic so they know to call people who are actually qualified.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:02
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:turns out a lot of pathetic people end up becoming cops to compensate I would become a US cop in a heartbeat. You can kill people, steal poo poo you confiscate, and get a loving reward at the end no matter what you do! gently caress, you can grift your way across cop groups. Shoot a person in one area, get 'early retirement', join another force two county's away. Rinse and repeat until you have killed enough people for a loving Purple Heart!
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Jul 23, 2016 22:02
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Doppelganger posted:Paramedic friend of mine got called for a 15 year old autistic kid who was having a meltdown. Cops show up and one of them, a well known meathead, immediately puts the kid in some kind of hold. Probably was thinking that the medic was going to steal his kill.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:03
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Ringo Star Get posted:I have a friend who works as a social worker for those with mental disabilities. Short answer, cops have zero training on how to deal with them. I don't understand the whole "Serve and Protect" mantra if the whole idea is to try to curb stomp and book as many people as possible. It solves nothing, hurts people unnecessarily, and just results in people being untrusting of police. Its not like they have some kind of quota to meet. wait, they do . They don't need to have all the training the friend has, just have more then one go to then screaming and shooting. Like have the concept of arriving to a situation, resolving it, then leaving without anyone shot in the back of the squad car. Stomping people into paste does nothing to prevent future crime. blowfish posted:Why do you hate I'm a liberal Canadian, I got a few of things checked off. 
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Jul 23, 2016 22:04
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Ringo Star Get posted:The police are trained nah
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Jul 23, 2016 22:05
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Shnag posted:I don't understand the whole "Serve and Protect" mantra if the whole idea is to try to curb stomp and book as many people as possible. This is why one of my favorite jokes in GTA V is the cop cars that say "Obey and Survive".
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Jul 23, 2016 22:14
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Shnag posted:Do cops receive any training on how handle people with mental disabilities? You'd think it would make a lot of sense to take some of the same courses as social workers, so they could handle situations besides of using the ol' standby of screaming and pointing a gun. There would be overlap with people who are drugged up too. You can avoid escalation pretty easily. If you ask a cop you would probably get an answer like "I'm a cop, not some sissy social worker!". People love hero worship, it's a pretty primal concept. It's also why our troops are nothing but thugs protecting the interests of the rich people that call the shots, murdering civilians all over the world for no especially good reason but are celebrated as heroes and you are required to thank them for their service. It's even why we need heroes among the heroes, so the gang of psychopathic rapists (the marines) are hailed as even bigger, better heroes when there has been no threat at all to America in the past few decades.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0goGIgwWO4 Wow, it's as if situations with disturbed people can be handled without indecent if you talk calmly and politely with them instead of shouting, whipping out the taser and kicking them in the head.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:29
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Shnag posted:I don't understand the whole "Serve and Protect" mantra
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Fat Shat Sings posted:People love hero worship, it's a pretty primal concept. I never understood hero worship, but some people are really into it. Even to go as far to imply police shouldn't help you if you question them in anyway. While at the same time, think people working in customer service are your literal, not figurative, slave. Its so backwards, you'd think people would expect cops to lick their boots and call them sir because of "MY taxes pay your salary!" . Like what Homer Simpson did when he tried to get better service from garbage men by getting control of it and running it into the ground. Doppelganger posted:This is why one of my favorite jokes in GTA V is the cop cars that say "Obey and Survive". lol
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If the cops don't shoot you, at least you can depend on the justice system if you are a victim, right? Rape victim thrown in same jail as her attacker for a month while authorities go on vacation 
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The Locator posted:If the cops don't shoot you, at least you can depend on the justice system if you are a victim, right? Good poo poo America, that's horrific
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My favorite part is how he was aiming for the autist and blasted the black guy instead. Like his body literally wouldn't allow him to shoot the other guys when a black guy is present. The black dude must be shot at all times.
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