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Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Supposed leak of JLD that was doing the rounds yesterday.

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Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Supposed leak of JLD that was doing the rounds yesterday.



So, is legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddLDL_kKOU

They got Matt Ryan back to voice Constantine! :dance:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Just for the record, Moore himself explained his intention behind the end of the story last year

Alan Moore posted:

And David, for the record, my intention at the end of that book was to have the two characters simply experiencing a brief moment of lucidity in their ongoing very weird and probably fatal relationship with each other, reaching a moment where they both perceive the hell that they are in, and can only laugh at their preposterous situation. A similar chuckle is shared by the doomed couple at the end of the remarkable Jim Thompson’s original novel, The Getaway.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Just finished watching the Killing Joke. Overall it IS one of the weakest offerings WB has delivered based on DC. I don't know if is my familiarity with the source what is influencing my opinions but I'd liked it a lot more if they would taken the "Zack Snyder" approach (as in 1:1) to adapt it.

The additions to the original story are pretty drat notorious, both because the animation takes a dive or because the break the pacing of the original plot. Rather than adding to the story, these additions kind of become a distraction.

There's also a lot of dialogue where it shouldn't be one, again, breaking the tone delivered by the original story. Entire passages where's there wasn't any dialogue in the graphic novel, get some clumsy lines ruining the whole sequence.

The final confrontation between the Joker and Batman at the carnival is turned into a more sterotypical comic book fight, with random mooks and everything. Taking away the, "intimate" tone of the confrontation penned by Moore. At least the final dialogue between Batman and Joker continues to be amazing.

The infamous Batgirl sequences also feel really out of place since they don't have any connection to the main plot making it feel like there's two features in the movie rather than a single one. That being said, I really liked the epilogue added for Barbara mid-credits.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

notthegoatseguy posted:

The promotion for this at least implied they were going to tweak TKJ as a story, particularly around Barbara's role. But besides the 30 minute Batgirl bullshit, mid credits scene and the loving dance number, it is almost a panel for panel adaptation of the graphic novel, just poorly animated. I really just thought this was overall pointless.

"Almost" is overselling the movie a little. If it would've been a panel for panel adaptation it would've been better but they still crammed a lot of unnecessary stuff like making Batman and Joker's confrontation at the end your run of the mill "hero vs bad guys fight"

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

TheThirst posted:

The game also got delayed for a very long time, it was supposed to come out between the two seasons but wasn't actually released until after the show had been cancelled. There were also supposed to be companion comics running throughout season 2 to focus on some of the characters and fill in gaps, but they were cancelled too. I feel like it would have worked better if they'd released this stuff as smaller mobile games or digital first $.99 comics but it was really a few years early for those things to be commonplace. I really liked Young Justice and the universe they set up and it's pretty frustrating we only got to see some of it.

Don't forget that the development team went on record saying that if the game was a success, then they would make another game as the fabled third season of the show.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

The ridiculous seven season plan probably had something to do as well.

The general consensus is that both YJ and GL:TAS were victim of the failure of the GL movie since it took a toll on merchandising partners (YJ having some notoriously lovely toys didn't help either)

CN moving on from action shows and focusing into comedy didn't help either.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbA8TKIeJ7g

Matt Ryan's Constantine :allears:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Constantine is back


quote:

The DC Comics drama, which was most recently adapted for TV by NBC, will return as an animated series on CW Seed, it was announced Sunday at the Television Critics Association winter press tour.

Matt Ryan, who starred in the short-lived NBC drama, will voice the lead character.

The animated series will consist of five or six 10-minute episodes that will premiere during the 2017-18 TV season. On CW Seed, Constantine joins fellow animated DC Comics series Vixen, which launched its second season in October. Like Vixen, which is set in the Arrow universe that consists of CW live-action dramas Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl and DC's Legends of Tomorrow, Constantine has crossed over with Arrow in the past.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/constantine-animated-series-at-cw-seed-961873

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

muscles like this! posted:

I don't know, wasn't the point of Peter's weird dimension traveling to find MJ and by the end of the show he hadn't?

Yeah, the last shot of the series is Spiderman and Madam Web departing on a new trip to find Mary Jane and bring her back home for good. So yeah, hardly a conclusive ending. For a while there was a persistent rumor that Spiderman Unlimited was the continuation of that.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Skwirl posted:

Every single movie Ben Affleck has directed has been a critical darling and his most recent was a massive financial success and won Best Picture. He got an Academy Award for screen writing in his early twenties, and his turn as Batman was probably the best received part of BvS, how hard is it to just hand him a decent budget and step back?

Is not that easy

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2017/01/10/the-batman-is-not-ready-to-begin-production/#67b845f17e01

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Is this the first screenshot we see of Judas Contract's adaptation?

https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/822139106729881603

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmpUh7U7Sqk

Damian feels so out of place there.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2suljce148

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I'm not going to argue with this

http://www.cbr.com/under-the-red-ho...FB-P&view=lista

:v:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Young Justice S3 will premiere at a new DC-branded digital service alongside a new Live Action Titans series.

http://deadline.com/2017/04/dc-digital-service-titans-young-justice-outsiders-1202076831/

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ToastyPotato posted:

I think it has trouble articulating its point, but I do understand the point it is trying to make, I think. I believe Batman is saying he doesn't kill the Joker or people like him because it would quickly become his go to method for dealing with problems like that. It wouldn't stop at Joker, or Penguin, or Two Face, or Black Mask. I think the implication is that he is already kind of addicted to crossing legal lines and using violence to deal with criminals, if he normalizes the idea of killing them for himself, he's going to become addicted to that too, and it would be very, very easy for him to do it. Probably much easier than what he is doing now. It's an interesting idea that a lot of comic stuff seem to dance around, but I have never seen any one story really commit to exploring the idea deeply.

Basically Batman knows that there is something wrong with him, and if he crosses the line and starts killing people, he knows that it will never end and he is going to leave a trail of bodies where ever he goes.

Amusingly, the one time a comic showed what would happen if Batman killed the Joker, not only Batman killed every other major rogue around, it ushered a world of global peace where superheroes were no longer needed. :v:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ImpAtom posted:

I can say that's 100% not true considering that Batman killed the Joker in The Nail and it just meant be got branded a crazy murderer and then the Joker went to hell and got superpowers. He also killed The Joker in Red Rain and that didn't end well for anyone. Frankly killing the Joker has never really worked out in his favor.

That is not entirely accurate. Both examples you mention are things that happen on their respective sequels, Another Nail and Crimson Mist. The Nail doesn't show any serious consequence about Batman murdering the Joker beside hurting his reputation. That as the story reveals later, was a set up on which Batman walked right in. Red Rain on the other hand ends with Bruce asking Alfred to killing him after doing the deed with the Joker and is only due Alfred and Gordon's actions that things go so wrong on Crimson Mist.

Anyways, I was talking of this





Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ThermoPhysical posted:

What comic / issue is this?

Countdown issues 16, 15 and 14.

ImpAtom posted:

Batman murdering the Joker and how it a massively damaging thing to his reputation is, uh, kind of a serious plot point there and Batman murdering the Joker is what turns him into a real vampire. What are you talking about? :psyduck:

I'm shocked you're referencing a terrible story about Jason Todd though. Just shocked.

Murdering the Joker on The Nail is a relatively minor part of that story and unlike the Countdown bit, it doesn't left Bruce completely isolated since he finally get together with Selina. Then you have how the story sort of justifies his actions by first making the Joker kill Robin and Batgirl and then by making it all part of Jimmy's bid to destroy the heroes. The Nail even ends on a positive note with the drafting of Superman on the JL and the promise of things going into the status quo we're used to. Although in fairness, that is common to most elseworlds.

Any actual consequences from the killing the Joker only comes on Another Nail and given there's a five year gap between it and The Nail, makes hard to think is something added after the fact just to cash in on The Nail's success.

As for Bloodstorm, is not killing the Joker what fully turns Bruce into a vampire. The entire story has him struggling to control his urges, something that he finally achieves after he meets Selina. Is only after her murder that Bruce decides to stop resisting and feeds on the Joker. But that is framed by the story as the ultimate sacrifice, with Bruce as a tragic hero doing his best with the hand he was dealt.

Once again, the consequences of this are dealt by Crimson Mist that coincidentally was also published five years after Blood Storm.

Rather than the stories downright telling killing the Joker would be a bad thing, it seems to me is more about editorial backpedaling and throwing as much poo poo they can to Batman after the fact to avoid people going "Batman killed the Joker on an elseworld and things were fine afterwards, why he doesn't do the same on the regular comics?"

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

SonicRulez posted:

There is something really perfect to me about Jason Todd waking up in the universe where Bats has decided to use guns to shoot all the bad guys and still being massively upset. It shows that Jason isn't just "It makes more sense to kill Joker, so I'm gonna do it". He's "I just want to do whatever the opposite of Batman is."

Jason is not really upset, at worst he's overwhelmed by Batman's actions. What sets him off is the way this Bruce dismiss everyone's else, the lack of interest on even putting a fight when it matters. Once Bruce relents, they actually work pretty well together.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I'm not denying that. But the Jason side of the plot was enjoyable enough and the best Jason had been written since his resurrection. They shat the bed at the end anyways.

The Search for Ray Palmer mini was really fun though.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
The Justice League Dark movie is pretty enjoyable if very by the numbers.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/880134980097232897

It includes all the modern animated films starting from the Death of Superman one up to Batman and Harley Quinn

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Gaz-L posted:

Yup, it's always Superman, Batman and/or Wonder Woman are assholes and so the world is a horrible shithole dystopia.

Hernan is at worst a well-intentioned extremist, Kirk is a tragic monster while Bekka is closer to Big Barda's characterization than an outright jerk. And is a stretch to call their setting a dystopia.

Anyways, the next animated film has been revealed. Is an adaptation of Gotham By Gaslight.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888462655467380736

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/888464492400701441

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888613346588712960

quote:

First out of the gate will actually be Batman: Gotham by Gaslight, an adaptation of the popular 1989 tale that introduced us to a Victorian Era Dark Knight who was in pursuit of Jack the Ripper. Written by Brian Augustyn and drawn by Mike Mignola of Hellboy fame, BATMAN: GOTHAM BY GASLIGHT is largely considered to be the very first “Elseworlds” tale. At 48 pages, the original comic is relatively slim, meaning the movie version will offer an expanded version of the story, something that’s sure to delight fans of its cobblestone-paved world.

That will be followed in the spring by Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, the first Suicide Squad movie set within the DC Universe Original Movies’ shared continuity. (Batman: Assault on Arkham, the 2014 movie that also featured the Suicide Squad was set within the Arkham video game continuity.) Hell to Pay will feature an original story and what’s promised to be an amazing, though sadly not-yet-revealed, voice cast.

Rounding out the 2018 releases will be Death of Superman, the first part of the two-parter. Adapting the legendary story of Superman’s fatal battle with Doomsday, this will actually be the second DC Universe Original Movie to adapt the material. The first, 2007’s Superman: Doomsday, was the very first DC Universe Original Movie and greatly condensed and altered the original comic book event to fit within its 75-minute running time. The upcoming adaptation will be more faithful to the source material, much less condensed and will include many of the fan-favorite moments from the story that were left out of Doomsday.

Finally, in early 2019, look for Reign of the Supermen, the second part of the two-part adaptation. While we’ll have to wait for an official synopsis to learn all of the details, that name should be a familiar one to Superman fans and suggests we’ll be seeing the rise of the Superman alternates that took his place during the year after his death. (For those unfamiliar with the story, they were Steel, Cyborg Superman, Superboy and the Last Son of Krypton.) This part of the Death and Return of Superman was greatly simplified in Doomsday, which instead featured a single alternate Superman rather than the four we saw in the comics.

Yeah...

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Crossposting from CineD

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

First Visual of the upcoming Batman Ninja film



With some tidbits gleaned from twitter

- It will feature Batman and his Rogues Gallery traveling from the modern era to Feudal Japan.

- Red Hood will be in the movie.

- "It's not Japan through the eyes of Batman, but Batman through the eyes of the Japanese."

- Joker is voiced by someone with the initials "T.H."

- The fight scenes were filmed using live actors and that footage was then transformed into animation.

- The trailer featured Nightwing, Robin, Two-Face, and Gorilla Grodd.


And a look at Batman and Joker's figuarts

https://twitter.com/DLohRidah/status/916065444649488384

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
First look at the animated Constantine show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3X19gYJtCA

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wId8XY6y_HA

:catdrugs:

I'm laughing my rear end off at Jason's design

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Another trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF031DwMffQ

EDIT:



Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Dec 1, 2017

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

OnimaruXLR posted:

I'm pretty sure all of the Batman characters are transplanted from the present into the past (of Japan)

Based on who is writing this movie, this is going to be much more in the vein of Brave and the Bold Batman with anime style than anything remotely resembling a more "grounded" approach

Yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVTKEc-mu8

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

hiddenriverninja posted:

Who's the pink haired lady supposed to be?

Poison Ivy

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

AnonSpore posted:

From the trailer, everyone is from Gotham transported to feudal Japan. It's not like Bruce Wayne is the only one who somehow found himself in a Japan where everyone is mysteriously like his rogues gallery/family or something.

I wonder how the gently caress they managed to convince Damian to get that haircut.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZZvk-wbGE

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/959153491716395008

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Splinter looks awful

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Batman Ninja gets a home release in May

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08dHXfIprYE

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Batman Ninja English Cast:

Roger Craig Smith - Batman

Tony Hale - Joker

Grey Griffin - Catwoman

Tara Strong - Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy

Yuri Lownethal - Robin

Adam Croasdell - Nightwing

Will Friedle - Red Robin, Red Hood

Fred Tatasciore - Gorilla Grodd, Deathstroke

Tom Kenny - Penguin

Eric Bauza - Two-Face

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Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Updated synopsis

quote:

Batman Ninja takes a journey across the ages as Gorilla Grodd's time displacement machine transports many of Batman's worst enemies to feudal Japan - along with the Dark Knight and a few of his allies. The villains take over the forms of the feudal lords that rule the divided land, with the Joker taking the lead among the warring factions. As his traditional high-tech weaponry is exhausted almost immediately, Batman must rely on his intellect and his allies - including Catwoman and the extended Bat-family - to restore order to the land, and return to present-day Gotham City.

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