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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Random question: About what point does X-Men Evolution get good? I always heard it really catches its footing later in the series, but I've never been able to make it past the first 4 or 5 eps. So, it'll probably be easier for me to just skip to the good poo poo.

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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I don’t really think it’s past its time yet. It isn’t like the story is more “morally dark/gray Superman” schlock.

Superhero civil war sounds like it could incorporate a lot of current issues, particularly when it revolves around a generational gap. (I don’t think Marvel’s civil war is comparable.) It would just have to step back a bit from the “rampaging teen gangster” vibe.

AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 11, 2023

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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The two DC animated movies that surprised me the most on how quality they are are Gods & Monsters and the Justice Society World War II movie. (Well, I could've done without the dumb Atlantis invasion of NYC at the end).)

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Screenshot, please. Some of us don't have twitter.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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This is the same studio that did Korra, isn't it?

Show is cute, but you can tell where they cut corners in the animation. Also somewhat disappointed that the origin for Livewire doesn't include her being a shock jock anymore. :colbert:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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bunnyofdoom posted:

I mean you could modernize her easily by making her Alex Jones.

Shocking and electrifying in another way

J. Jonah Jameson in the Home Spider-Man movies is pretty much this.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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R.I.P. Gilbert Gottfried. I will always read Mxyzpltk in his voice.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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STAS also introduced the creepy masked/toyetic version of Toyman.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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The Croc/Baby Doll episode had some interesting characterization.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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It's the best Gwen Stacy that isn't a Spider-Gwen.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I've been skipping around the old DCAU shows, and man. I know Superman TAS doesn't getting as much love as BTAS for obvious reasons. But The Late Mr. Kent is such a good loving episode.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Larryb posted:

There’s also the fact the new guy’s name is Alex (Luthor’s full name is Alexander Luthor) and as mentioned in another thread he’s also shown assisting in active supervillainy (and enjoying it):



Ivo usually works for him as opposed to the other way around though

Yeah. That's Luthor. In a lot of recent continuities, Ivo has been older than Luthor. And considering the main characters are all in the early 20s, it makes sense that Luthor is working for Ivo this time.

I have to say, though. That character model just looks like they designed Lex and slapped a wig on it. :v:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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FilthyImp posted:

Re: the cartoon ending. It seems like a lot of 90s TV wanted to have a kind of twist/cliffhangery ending to make the end of an episode feel more abrupt and less closed off. Tons of the S1 episodes of Buffy have a weird twist (leftover lizard eggs in the pool, Invisible Girl classmate recruited into Evil Government X-men). And the X-files had a few episodes that didnt quite resolve. It comes back big in Batman Beyond, with really gruesome or unsettling ends to people's stories. Maybe the popularity of The Outer Limits remake having an influence?

I think that was more a function of how shows were funded, never knowing whether they'd get another season. Being more episodic than serialized even if the better shows had serialized elements.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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SlothfulCobra posted:

In JLU Lex does get cancer from his obsession with Superman, so that would've made him go bald if he wasn't already.

lol. Cancer doesn't just make people go bald. (Normally.) It's the chemo and radiation therapy that makes people lose their hair. You're basically slightly poisoning yourself with the hope of killing the cancer more than yourself.

Besides, Lex used his power suit vest to keep his cancer in remission. Not chemotherapy. Then Brainiac's infestation just straight up cures him.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Larryb posted:

Haven’t they tried doing an animated Watchmen before or am I remembering wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8SVQGbLS6U

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Why is there a Justice League x RWBY movie? What the gently caress am I looking at? :psyduck:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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New Harley season is pretty good so far. Best B plot is Alfred trying to get to Bruce in jail. Best sight gag was Lady Gaga of course being a patron at Lex's casino.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Larryb posted:

Turns out Jimmy knew Clark’s secret all along (which kind of makes sense), also Lois and Clark appear to have made up. Honestly I’m glad they decided to rip this particular bandaid off sooner rather than later. No Grodd this time but we did get Mallah & The Brain

Mxyzptlk debuts next week


Dude. I know not everyone reads every subforum, but it is really loving weird when you crosspost all your stuff between here and both TVIV animation threads.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Kingtheninja posted:

Wow 7 whole episodes before the multiverse~* comes a knocking.

*Insert compilation of Secret Galaxy's clap-clap-multiverse clips*

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I AM GRANDO posted:

The dude’s got a big imagination and is probably way too into lore and story bibles vs keeping a story manageable, but I guess he did pull off a pretty impressive and successful story starting with “New York has gargoyles who fight crime.”

I think a lot people forget Gargoyles fell off a cliff at the end there with the move to ABC. Though, I don't remember if Weissman was actually involved with The Goliath Chronicles.

AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Aug 14, 2023

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Larryb posted:

They apparently got at least a few of the 90’s VAs back for it as well.

It means nothing without John Colicos' Apocalypse. :colbert:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Heavy Metal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ompoD7V42DM

This looks good! Michael Cera, whole cast is back. I like that it sounds like they're covering 6 manga sized volumes in 8 episodes. Fast paced and dense adaptations, I like the sound of that.

Needs more Lisa.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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bunnyofdoom posted:

First Conroy now her.


We need to protect Mark Hamill and Clancy Brown at all costs

No. First, it was Dwayne McDuffie. Then, it was Elfrem Zimbalist Jr. THEN, it was Kevin Conroy. :(

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Goddamn. I didn't realize we've lost so many. Also, I didn't know Ed Asner voiced Roland Daggett. :psyduck:

I am mad at myself for not remembering David Warner, though. :(

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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drrockso20 posted:

Most modern depictions of Amanda Waller have the issue of making her not only way too much of a bastard but also a really really loving stupid one, JLU is basically one of the only times in the last 20 years or so where someone actually understood the character and did her right

The best factoid re: JLU Waller is C.C.H. Pounder had to be constantly reminded who the character was whenever she went in for recording, and she would still nail it in one take because she's a goddamn boss.

Honestly, MawS was a bit mid for me. There were some fun moments, but there were a bit too many contrivances (both in plot and characterization) to make me super high on it. I'll still watch season 2.

That said, the one thing that did make me perk up was the Checkmate name drop. This is the first time they've been mentioned outside the comics, isn't it?

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Lobok posted:

Season 1 was good although I've never been a huge fan when adaptations have every villain originate from the same source. Mxy and the League of Lois Lanes was a great departure because he wasn't Kryptonian tech and the League fit a lot better with my notion of what a show titled "My Adventures with" would be about, namely centering the experience of Lois and Jimmy a lot more and doing more things that felt like Silver Age weirdness rather than a straight Superman action show.

So, not a fan of Static Shock, I take it?

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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The ending to the latest Harley Quinn episode. :eyepop:

Didn't see that poo poo coming!

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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thebardyspoon posted:

I guess it could be a red herring, I think it is just they picked his iconic line to get people a little hyped and the design is a redesign though. They'll do the anime thing where they break his armour expecting that to be a game changer and he'll just be even scarier with it broken off or something.

We find out its like a Darth Vader suit and he was horribly mangled somehow surviving Krypton's destruction.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Assepoester posted:

Young Justice was going for a bit of a different feel than most superhero shows, a bit more naturalistic dialogue, so just referring to your own team as "the team" makes sense, sort of like how they always (or almost always?) called the Justice League just "the league", etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdBcnRFN4Vg

Justice Team!

dordreff posted:

YJ season 3 did the same "time skip then start with a new group of teens" thing as season 2 but imo handled it a bit better; the new characters were a bit annoying but had more personality than most of the season 2 cast, and the season 1 cast mostly worked well as mentors to the new group. Unfortunately like half of the original team just weren't in the show, most of the season 2 characters had cameos at best, and there was very minimal overarching plot other than building up the new characters, so if you didn't like them there's basically nothing to the series.
Season 4 was dogshit start to finish. It once again threw away the cast of the previous series, this time to focus on the season 1 characters, but was just really badly made. All the individual story arcs were basically one or two episode plots stretched to four or five so the pacing is always hosed, it keeps focusing on plot points that happened either entirely off-screen (most of Artemis' arc is about Cassandra Cain, who has never even been mentioned before she shows up) or in completely different shows (Rocket's arc is mostly about following up on plot points from the Green Lantern animated series that ended a full decade before the series aired). That was at least better than the other half of Rocket's storyline, which was about how she hates her autistic son. Also every episode has like 5 full minutes of its runtime devoted to Beast Boy looking directly at the camera and saying "i'm the guy who sucks, plus i got depression" until he just decides to not be sad anymore at the end. Bad series, glad it's dead.

This is a pretty apt summary. The writing is truly a mess. Like how Barbara becomes Oracle. :rolleyes:

This is just kind of injected haphazardly into an episode dealing with "trust issues".

AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 29, 2023

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I was expecting an animated series with heavy anime influences, in the same way the comic is an western comic with heavy manga (and video game) influences.

I was not expecting a full anime opening with a Japanese pop song, and it kinda owns tbh.

The studio is Science Saru. It was always going to be anime. And not just anime but anime as gently caress.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Air Skwirl posted:

Dick was already pure rear end.



Despite losing a lot of its flare over the last season, I do appreciate Harley Quinn show's obsession over Dick's glutes.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Rewatching JLU and lol, I forgot Lightray smacks Wonder Woman in the butt off screen when they meet in Twilight Part 1.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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TwoPair posted:

Yeah, Across the Spider-Verse is on Netflix right now, I feel almost certain they're just gonna put SSM over there

That’s where it originally was even long after D+ debuted.

That said, a bunch of formerly Max-only DC material has also recently dropped on (US) Netflix.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I AM GRANDO posted:

Best cartoon opening was the 60s Fantastic Four cartoon with all the cool jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eue8XngYdzM

I love the random giant dudes trying to spear Thing and Torch. :v:

That said, no discussion about early Marvel cartoon openings is complete without the 90's Japanese opening that has....zero connection to the actual cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl_Z-Acf6Sc

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I wish these X-Men '97 eps were 45 minutes. They're just rushing through soooo much stuff without giving it a chance to breath.

That said, the retro segments were A+ with all the little easter eggs. I also liked Forge's photo of the government X-Force team. :allears:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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mllaneza posted:

BTAS talk always puts me in mind of the movie poster gallery some mad artist made,

https://imgur.com/gallery/1HArE

:eyepop:

Those are freakin' amazing. The Two-Face, Perchance to Dream, and Almost Got 'Im ones are pure art.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I had a huge case of OG VS System cards.

That was a fun game. Too bad the remake of it uses a commander/hero playstyle instead of being really team based.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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MonsterEnvy posted:

I was unfamiliar with what Bastion looked like as well, so I thought he was Feilong for a bit as well.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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"Because when your skin's not in the game, apathy is your answer." is a helluva line considering the poo poo going on in the world right now. :stare:

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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I mean. If Young Justice ever gets another season, it's going to be Apokolips focused. All the groundwork has been set. And you already have the Forever People and Bug for the New Gods.

That's really the last mention of New Genesis in any animated DC products, is it? Well, that and Gods & Monsters flipping the script a bit. (They should make another movie in the Gods & Monsters universe.)

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