Why can't people criticize lovely comic book movies without it being made political.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2016 15:37 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 22:56 |
Alaois posted:and based on everything i've seen of him, not even just The Killing Joke, that baffles me Azzarello definitely is one of those dudes that I absolutely do not get the love for.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 14:55 |
Extra, Extra, Grant Morrison and Brian Azzarello team up to ruin good Batman story!
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 15:06 |
It's not "the system" that Gordon is defending. It's "Our way". The way of trying to do the right thing and not crossing lines. The way of holding oneself to a higher standard, of not doing what your enemy does just to "win".
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 12:56 |
Kurzon posted:I wonder why it was so important for him to prove that to the Joker. Because the entirety of Joker's plan was trying to prove how meaningless that sort of morality is, and Gordon thinks it's the biggest "gently caress you" possible to still do the right thing after what Joker did to him. Kurzon posted:I interpreted it as a subtle dig at past Batman conventions. This was a couple of years after Moore wrote, Watchmen, remember. Perhaps Moore was mocking the ridiculousness of a city official having an open relationship with a vigilante and pretending it was all legal. You seem determined to read the story against the authorial intent.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 13:25 |
Unmature posted:This just in: Spergs on the internet don't understand artistic interpretation and will only take the author's intent as law, EXTREE EXTREE! I understand artistic interpretation just fine, but trying to read everything against both the explicit text and the script and then alluding that your interpretation is supported by your understanding of the author's politics or personality is dumb as dog poo poo. I'm sorry that makes you upset and makes you feel the need to call me names.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 14:43 |
Unmature posted:Everyone here calls you names. Someone got up on the stupid rear end in a top hat side of the bed this morning!
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 15:10 |
Ideally you'd have him combating crime on every front, both as a billionaire philanthropist and a leather-clad sadist, although it does raise questions about sleep cycles and exhaustion (something the Nolan films addressed pretty handily).
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 19:12 |
The scene in Mask of the Phantasm is him begging his parents' grave to let him be happy.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 08:06 |
That was the Scarecrow episode where his dad showed up to call him a dumb loser. And his response to that was I AM THE NIGHT!!!
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 08:42 |
I thought only Begins really made Gotham look distinct. They really gave it this... anachronistic turn of the century look. Like it looked like what people in the early 1900s thought the big cities would shape up to be.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2016 00:00 |
Oracle was certainly a more interesting character than Barbara Gordon as Batgirl ever was.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 17:49 |
You can't make Killing Joke badly written just by repeating the lie often enough.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 17:51 |
ImpAtom posted:God, you really are just the worst loving poster in this subforum. I'm sorry that I don't see the value in endlessly ranting about something, especially when my entire angle on that thing is asinine and clearly motivated by fanboyism of a lovely character. But please feel free to continue judging me as a person for disagreeing with one thing you said in your gigantic idiotic rant. "Oh no! He thinks one of the universally agreed 3 best Batman comics is good! What a piece of poo poo!" I guess if I'd posted 600 words about something as blatantly obvious as "The Killing Joke is an extremely well thought-out masterpiece that defined Batman and Joker's relationship for decades" you'd be totally cool with it, and not be throwing a dumb tantrum about its mistreatment of one of DC's most boring characters. Clearly the problem is with my conciseness and not your stupid childish grudge with a well-respected author. You dumb motherfucker. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 07:26 |
Everyone, please read my 3 page hot take on why Death of Captain Marvel is a lovely book by a lovely writer because it doesn't treat Gamora with the respect she deserves. What's that, you think I'm dumb? Well that makes you a lovely poster who isn't willing to debate honestly with us intellectuals.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 07:33 |
Android Blues posted:I don't think the general consensus is that The Killing Joke is lovely. In fact, I don't think there's a single person in this thread saying that. ImpAtom was repeatedly saying the book was poorly written, and got really upset that I disagreed without writing a novel. I don't mind if people criticize the book, I'm not married to it.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 07:51 |
A Gnarlacious Bro posted:I think its lovely, nice rant btw Thanks, glad you agree with it.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 14:46 |
CharlestheHammer posted:You do see the irony in fanboying out while decrying fanboying right? Also no one called it poorly written just that part of it is, which it absolutely is. I don't give a gently caress about batgirl as a character but poorly written is poorly written. So stop being a smug, disingenuous motherfucker. I'm not fanboying out for poo poo, I'm reacting to an idiot thinking his stupid lovely opinion was worth more than a one sentence middle finger. If I can't be smug while replying to someone who throws a fit about how people disagreeing with him must be bad posters, I don't know when I can be. Not sure why you think something that obvious requires you to come in and declare me disingenuous, though.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 15:22 |
DrProsek posted:I pose the same question to you. Why was your opinion worth three paragraphs? You posted it like we were supposed to care about it, but I didn't see you prove out why your opinion deserved more than one sentence Why do any of us post on forums when we could all keep our thoughts to ourselves. Really makes you think.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 15:38 |
ImpAtom posted:As usually, Lurdiak, you just wanted to shitpost and run and in doing so you decided without actually reading anything that I was someone talking about how terrible and awful Killing Joke is and how it's the worst story ever. It's interesting that you decided to get mad and insult me and declare I was "shitposting and running" when I didn't even quote you in my initial post. I just said "Killing Joke isn't bad" and you called that a shitpost and declared me the worst! poster! ever! And I'm supposed to be the one with a reading problem?
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 15:46 |
CharlestheHammer posted:That is the definition of fanboying. You got offended someone didn't think a story you like is perfect and responded in a juvenile whiny way. Well, I guess you can apply death of the author to forum posts, and I can't stop you. ImpAtom posted:We are on an internet forum where your previous posts can be directly linked you know. I was responding to more or less the entire page the conversation was happening on.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 15:57 |
ImpAtom posted:... The only other post about TKJ on that page was D_T's review of the movie. No it isn't?
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 16:03 |
CharlestheHammer posted:This isn't a book and posters can and do lie all the time so don't be dense. I was referring to how you were applying non-existent intent to my post. This argument is starting to go in circles.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 16:05 |
Franchescanado posted:I don't really understand the hate either, Lurdiak. You took the minimal approach when there are actual bad and stupid opinions being thrown in this thread left and right. I guess it's just "poo poo on Lurdiak to make ourselves feel better" time, again. I'm used to it.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 16:11 |
Franchescanado posted:I got your back, bro. Of course I'm doing it again! I've got a theme planned and some of the lineup set up based on that, but it's not set in stone and I've still got plenty of research to do. I usually have to stop myself from planning it TOO far in advance, cuz if I get everything ready in like July that leaves me chomping at the bit for months. I'll make a thread as usual in October. FilthyImp posted:Hey Lurdy... Sometimes... Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 16:16 |
ImpAtom posted:I snapped at you and I probably shouldn't have but at bare minimum I think you have to recognize the difference between "The Killing Joke isn't bad" and calling people a liar. Yeah I guess I coulda been less snippy too. Waking up after a lovely night's sleep to being called "the worst poster on the forum" is a bad way to start the day. ToastyPotato posted:It's almost as if people reacted to a lovely post you made. Imagine a world where you didn't make lovely posts and no one shat on you for it. I'm not even trying to dog pile here dude. You literally flipped out and started swearing and name calling because you got mad that someone called you out on a kind of lovely post. Maybe instead of getting used to it, you should look inward and realize that maybe the problem is something you are doing wrong, if it is happening that often. Or don't' and get poo poo on. Either way don't whine about. No one forces you to post. I'm not even dogpiling *proceeds to dogpile*
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 16:41 |
Your support is appreciated.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 20:59 |
TokenTrevor posted:Wow that sure is an av you got tho Tell me again how nobody has it out for me.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 21:07 |
Mr Hootington posted:This is great. I wonder who your nemesis is. I'm pretty sure I know.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 23:24 |
Yeah, if someone wanted to "pad out" The Killing Joke because they're a dumb rear end in a top hat who thinks an animated film needs to be a certain length for people to feel like they got their money's worth, you'd think they would've added more down-on-his-luck comedian Joker scenes instead of what they added.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 23:16 |
Hey, I don't know. Maybe more scenes of him being normal before things go bad. Maybe an extremely painful extended scene of him bombing on stage.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 23:47 |
e X posted:As good as Weissmann kann be, he tends to overdue it with the world building, Phone posting, huh.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 16:43 |
ToastyPotato posted:Weisman just shot down the Netflix rumor on Twitter so oh well. Well that's unsurprising.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 07:30 |
ArmyOfMidgets posted:That animation looks so stiff, the style is so nothing. You just described every DC animated film as far back as I can remember.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 09:27 |
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2016 00:58 |
I remember watching Garfield as a child in that reluctant "no other cartoons are on" way that I put up with so many bad shows. Why couldn't everything be Darkwing Duck?
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2016 03:51 |
While some of the lines mooks have in the Arkham games are loving garbage and uninspired, especially the ones they yell during combat. (IT'S THE FREAKIN BAT!!), a ton of the incidental conversations they have among themselves are amazing. Except the ones where they talk about how bad they wanna rape (insert any of the female characters here). It helps that most of it is Joe DiMaggio talking to another Joe DiMaggio.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2016 18:11 |
I blame this oxycotin I'm on.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2016 19:28 |
ArmyOfMidgets posted:we get Spider-man with Kevin S- Oh please no! ArmyOfMidgets posted:hinick as story editor. Oh thank god.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2016 23:10 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 22:56 |
Can't wait for the Wonder Woman/Wonder Girl sex scene.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 00:55 |