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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
I suppose this must be a defence mechanism. The idea they're undesirable because of their histrionic, obsessive personalities and interests is more damaging than being undesirable due to factors out of one's control, like genetic attractiveness?

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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
So the nice guy is just straight up admitting how anxious and nervous he is there. That's at least refreshing, even if it's done using infuriatingly lame action asterisks.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

ikanreed posted:

Look, you tie yourself into these insular (almost all male) internet based social groups to hide from the difficulty of normal social interaction.

Then the normal, social part of your brain that is modestly healthy if you weren't terrified of normal people starts learning ingroup signifiers from the other shut ins. Unconsciously you integrate them into your own behavior, and your stupid shut in group rewards you for it.

Normal people get put way the gently caress off.

Yeah- it kind of took enlisting in the military and making new friends outside my circle of geeky rear end high school D&D friends before I shed a lot of this bullshit. I was an incredibly shy and insecure dude who had a really bad case of resting bitch face, so it was like a double whammy of bad social matters + everyone thought I hated them (but I was just shy).

I'm reminded of an old essay on the 'Geek Social Fallacies', which were so on point and accurate to my life when I read it that it actually changed me. so I started acting confident, going to parties and clubs, and making new friends.

Drugs helped too.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

superjew posted:

Actually I think smoking weed was instrumental in the end of my sadbrain nice guy phase.

Me too. That and ecstasy- the latter only because you can't be socially anxious on it, and I was able to learn the lesson 'Oh, just being friendly, smiling, and outgoing is enough to make friends!' rather than 'I need to use ecstasy to make friends'.

The bad thing about weed is it can eventually loop back around and make you an insular pissbaby who lacks any motivation to do anything beyond smoking + video games. And if you ever deal, prepare to lose some friends who will now only ever visit if they need to buy :v:

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