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Cumslut1895 posted:

this is bordering on delusional. There are plenty of legitimately ugly people.

Only the worst deformities can't be at least improved with plastic surgery. Most people don't have money lying around for that kind of thing, but if a lumpy nose or a too-large chin is ruining life and can be fixed for a few thousand dollars, then it should be a high priority to save up for. Or even put it on credit.

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Tequila Sunrise posted:

And when you can't beat the boss you summon a bunch of random guys you find outside her house to gang up on her?

or to send her insulting text messages

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Pick posted:

There are many deformities that can't be "fixed" and the attitude that they need to be "fixed" contributes to the poor self-image that leads to people closing off and not developing the skills they need. One of my best friends is an amputee and she's just going to have to be an amputee. But she still puts herself out there a lot better than most people I know.

I was thinking along the line of facial injuries / abnormalities. I had an injury as a kid which involved bone fractures, and the after effects only became worse over the years as I grew. Eventually I had it corrected surgically and it took my appearance to at least where the problem didn't stick out like a sore thumb and dominate my face.

Some people might be able to rock an injury and own it, but I didn't have the confidence to do so, that's for sure. So that's why I say if something like that is holding a person back, and it's possible for it to be improved, it's worth saving up the money. At least it was for me.

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Regarding the 1 - 10 chart... this is what I was talking about when I started the whole derail about plastic surgery (sorry everyone) - guys like in categories 1 and 2. Some of them are unable to be helped. I don't think there's any way of correcting it if you're born with your eyes extremely far apart. However, the guys with oversized noses or bad teeth could go from looking like a scary caricature to a fairly average person through surgery, dental work, and hygiene.

If due to economic or geographic circumstances these resources are beyond their reach, they may be doomed to a life of loneliness as the graphic suggests. If the resources are available, it's sensible to take advantage of it. Ideally, we should all be able to appreciate a person for who they are inside instead of judging by the outside, but unfortunately, people don't tend to be so accepting and react strongly to someone whose features fall that far outside of the norm.

It also doesn't seem like a fair comparison that several of the guys in the lower categories are older whereas the guys in the higher-up sections are young. Almost everyone looks worse as they age.

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Rabble posted:

I'm against plastic surgery on the principle that you are disguising what your hideous children will look like by hiding your terrible genetics. Its basically fraud!

I agree, but only if the person who had surgery isn't forthcoming about it. Bad teeth run in my family and I've made this clear to anyone I've been in a LTR with.

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NecroMonster posted:

Like, I can't blame Moore for assuming no one would like these characters, because they really aren't likeable. It turns out he just didn't account for how loving broken humanity is.

Yeah, and there are people with romantic notions about the Joker... smh

He was fun to watch, but for anyone who saw that Heath Ledger performance and developed a crush, I don't know what to say.

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CharlestonJew posted:

With a dick pic (scaled up of course) on the back

in sepia tone

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Command Ant posted:

"Furthest level of edumacation."

As pretentious as this application is, I'm surprised the education options don't include master's or doctorate. Then again, maybe a woman attaining a higher level of education than he did would be off-putting to him and an immediate disqualification.

I'm picturing this guy going through a stack of applications from aspiring girlfriends... "Nope, nope, nope... Not a virgin? No thanks... Can't cook? Too bad. I liked her. When will I ever find a woman worthy of my great virtue?"

I wonder if even one person ever completed the form except to tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine.

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Howard Beale posted:

I'm guessing the favorite sport & team is a trick question and the correct answer is something like "I don't like sportsball"

He's probably hoping for a scene like in Coming to America with the girl who was supposed to have an arranged marriage with the prince.

Prince Akeem: What do you like to do?
Imani Izzi: Whatever you like.
Prince Akeem: What kind of music do you like?
Imani Izzi: Whatever kind of music you like.

...only in Coming to America, the prince was interested in finding out more about her as a person and not just how she could be of use to him.

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LOL that he thinks a woman is attractive with zero effort but if he wants to improve his own body it'll take several years of working out.

I wonder what the mental diagnosis is for people who think everyone else but themselves has it easy. There has to be some term for it besides whiny bitch.

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mind the walrus posted:

Self-centered; self-absorbed; narcissistic; histrionic; self-obsessed; delusional; paranoid; psychotic; manic; arrogant; pompous; indolent

A combination of several of these would work.

Although this raises another question. These guys are so out of touch with reality, they probably would qualify as delusional, but are they necessarily mentally-ill or are some of them just overgrown brats who can't handle anything that isn't handed to them on a silver platter? I don't think being spoiled turns someone insane, although it can appear that way.

I get the feeling their parents gave them everything - except the facts about how life works for ordinary people who aren't billionaires, supermodels, or celebrities. These guys have the kind of attitude I'd expect from royalty, who think they deserve something for nothing because they're inherently better than everyone else in their own opinion.

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tater_salad posted:

I also bet that the poster wouldn't have sex with any woman, I mean they are all attractive with 0 effort.


Incels are not incel they are truecel they don't want to "work" for a "moist hole". The other thing that's not doing them any favors is relationships are a bit more than just loving, it's like sharing a life with someone and maybe with someone that makes you want to better yourself.

Christ these people are idiots.

Yeah, it's the sour grapes thing. They don't want to put in effort, so they devalue women and relationships to a level they could achieve with an inanimate object.

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mind the walrus posted:

I think it's symptomatic of a larger issue in society. From my armchair it looks like a combination of parents that are away at their jobs too often, received poor rearing from their parents who suffered the same, and a lack of general capability intellectually, emotionally, and in the case of many parents physically. This cultivates a laissez faire attitude towards development with poor communication and a heretofore unprecedented level of creature comforts-- for the past 50 years it's become entirely possible for someone to spend almost their entire childhoods and adolescence hiding out from the world. There were always bookworms and recluses, but they tended to be more extreme and the simple gravity of boredom would pull most people out and into interacting with the world. So you get a whole lot of man-boys who were never given harsh truths from their guiding figures--who themselves likely didn't get much from their guiding figures. They were never given the harsh truths about work, pain, rejection, the inherent lack of justice for everyone, discipline, and fortitude; and if they were it was almost certainly in a scary, overbearing way.

Now couple that with an innate mental illness....

Hello incel. Would you like to not get laid?

This makes me thankful that the Internet was in its infancy when I was in high school. I had similar problems to these guys as far as social anxiety, but there weren't really communities online where I could easily find people to reinforce my own bad ideas.

So, I had to grow and change. Communities like redpill and MGTOW bring out the worst in people and stunt their growth.

Even at my very worst, I never saw other people as inanimate objects, though. That's really disturbing to me, that there are people who think they're entitled to sex and advocate rape as a means of getting it. I realize that attitude's common in places where women are property and sanitation and literacy are uncommon, but it's unnerving to hear it espoused by someone who has presumably grown up in the modern world.

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The Saurus posted:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/09/suzanne-moore-why-i-was-wrong-about-men

Here's a nice article by the female equivalent of a "nice guy" who has decided she despises all men because she's too old and ugly to get any.

Guess she just didn't get the memo on how to be effortlessly attractive and have the world fall at her feet.

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tater_salad posted:

There are lots of not my faulters. Conspiracy theorists, people who believe aliens and the cabal are here to keep us down and use Chem trails to own out minds and keep us from being successful at whatever.

Incels and trp folks just use different reasons they are kept down

At least the tin foil hat wearing Fox Mulder wannabes don't shoot up as many schools... or advocate rape...

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Facebook Aunt posted:

The actors themselves could all easily be 8+ with different styling. No acne, no fatties, no facial irregularities. Above average physical specimens.

How can you know for sure? We can't see all of their clavicles.

But yeah, it always kinda bugged me that even the nerds on television are often above-average in looks.

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Calico Heart posted:

Like when they cast Joel Mchale, a man whose literal job is Being a Handsome Man, to play ugly awkward geek on the US version of the IT crowd.

(the brit actor for Roy isn't actually an uggo either, but he is a more believable dork than Being a Handsome Man Joel McHale)

Whoa. I never saw the American version of The IT Crowd, but that is appallingly bad miscasting. Joel McHale is the go-to guy for Egotistical Douche.

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FISTS CURE WOMEN posted:

since we are talking about clavicles I have been thinking of getting a clavicle tattoo.

Thoughts on that will help my incel?


(I'm still not sure what incel is?)

If you have a handsome, well-proportioned clavicle, then a tasteful tattoo could accentuate this fine feature and alleviate your incel.

If your clavicle is of middling or inferior quality, it's best to cover it fully with an opaque garment until you are in lower lighting where your shortcomings will be less pronounced.

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Tricky D posted:

WTF is all this clavicle talk? This is some serial killer poo poo.

I think you're on to something.

It's because some incels are obsessed with minutiae such as clavicle measurements as an excuse for their complete failure with women. It's their clavicles, not their horrible personalities, that are holding them back.

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I guess an inverted face must mean a squished-in face, but I'm picturing someone with their face on upside down. Like Australians.

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With their talk about women not being real people, do incels generally have terrible relationships with their moms? Do they look at their own mothers or grandmas and see someone who isn't really human - or do they make an exception for them?

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Moridin920 posted:

my clavicle was chiseled by the gods. it's the rest of me that's the issue

Play to your strengths. Become a clavicle model.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

Eliot Rodger's manifesto is hilarious because it's all him getting ludicrously owned and running away sobbing but it's all presented perfectly straight by him. It's like his life was just one fake troll submission to /r/incels after another.

It's a perfect example of Poe's law.

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Mak0rz posted:

That panel with the huge cock looming at the window is loving great

The guy that draws these sure likes drawing naked men.

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poisonpill posted:

Holy poo poo, that's all it takes to be in the top 1%? This is like finding out the Koch Brothers make $65k between them

Quoted because we managed to create the opposite of Elliot Rodgers' most famous post in this very thread, and through the natural flow of conversation. A fitting tribute, or whatever the opposite of a tribute is, to that pathetic soul who is the patron saint of incels.

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Sounds like porn has screwed up the expectations for men when it comes to their own bodies as well as women's.

The worst victims are probably guys like that comic artist who think it also represents normal human behavior. By this point he would probably be disappointed if he ever did get into a real relationship and it wasn't 24/7 kinky sex.

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Fat Shat Sings posted:

are.....are you saying you should be free from criticism on saying you have a clown dick and comparing yourself to chris-chan and ulillillia?

I didn't realize clowns were renowned for their huge dick size. This is disheartening.

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Fat Shat Sings posted:

my bad, I actually meant a dick that is the size of a actual clown, not a typical clowns dick.

A relief for me and my friends at Future Clowns of America.

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Calico Heart posted:

Not to derail or anything but when I went to LA I got the impression that everyone treated me better because of my accent. Maybe people in LA are just friendly (I had heard the opposite)? Like, open your mouth and the grumpiest person waiting for the bus will BEAM like they just realised you're Prince Harry Doctor Who Potter. My phone didn't work and when I asked someone for directions they phoned me a cab and on the phone even said "I need a cab for a nice european gentleman" (which he couldn't say anymore :britain:)

I literally walked up to a cute girl on the street and asked if there was anywhere good to eat and she excitedly took me somewhere and we had lunch together as she fervently texted her friends to come join like was going to grant everyone wishes

she did ask me "Is it London, England or England, London?" though

Yeah, it's the accent. You would also probably get a warm reception even if you were doing something annoying, like cold-calling. I knew an Australian guy who got away with more aggressive sales behavior and probably even got his job in the first place because people were so charmed.

No offense meant as I know British and Australian accents aren't the same thing, but I think many Americans find them similarly endearing.

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ikanreed posted:

Has the saurus, considered stuffing a vagina full of nice tokens to make it more accommodating?

This thread has taught me nothing makes women ready for sex like prepackaged gestures of kindness.

but if all of the tokens are in there how can anything else fit?

it's a paradox

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ikanreed posted:

But that costs extra nice guy tokens.

First you gotta pay for the time, then the consent, then the space, then wetness, next you'll be expecting us to give them orgasms.

These feminazis are nickel and diming us nice guys.

In the good old days, a woman was just a one time purchase, but now there's so much DLC, who can afford it?

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I think someone said that Elliot Rodger was prescribed antipsychotics but there was no way to force him to take them... what about if he was deemed to be a danger to himself or others? Then couldn't he be Baker Acted and forced to take medication? I assume that's what happens when someone becomes dangerous and needs to be hospitalized against their own will.

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Curdy Lemonstan posted:

Its easy. Suggest that you will be very disappointed, AND angry if she says no. Suggest that its in her best interest to date you or else...

mind the walrus posted:

Sounds too good to be true. Is there a way to ask this but in a way that makes sure I try to pretty on her insecurity because as a succubus Madonna the only way to beat her Chad algorithm is to give her a paradox?

Say if she doesn't date you, she will be alone, because she isn't attractive and no one will want to date her. (it's a paradox because if you don't find her attractive, why would you be interested in her)

edit: It's not really a paradox... you're clearly being charitable by offering to go out with her when no one else would.

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Pick posted:

I tend to think of niceness as instrumental, and in that way neutral, where as kindness is an intrinsic characteristic and inherently good. I know people who are nice who are terrible people, which this thread tends to highlight in a specific way, and I know nice people who are very kind, it's not that closely related. Meanwhile, I also know people who are very kind who don't quite have the social finesse to appear nice. They tend to be my favorite.

It took me too long to figure out that niceness and kindness are not related. I'm gonna put this on the list of things to teach my kids.

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Pvt.Scott posted:

What if it was a super huge and expensive dog that also had multiple expensive chronic health issues and was poorly trained and becoming more prone to violent outbursts as it got older?

It'd be me or the fuckin' dog. She'd choose the dog obviously, because she would have shown the poor animal mercy long ago if she weren't being all crazy about her meat property.

It would be a Catch 22, though. Giving up the dog for me would be a terrible choice because I'm a retarded manchild, but keeping the dog would be a terrible choice that would drive away the last vestiges of human contact the woman would likely ever have, which is why she's making a decision between the dog and me in the first place.

There was a thread on a similar topic recently in E/N. This guy had two untrained dogs and they were causing issues in his new relationship. The girlfriend who posted the thread felt bad because the dogs were bothering her so much but she didn't want to be overbearing. The dogs were peeing everywhere and had the run of the place - they would wake her up in bed, jumping on her head while she was trying to sleep. Unlike most E/N stories, it sorted itself out in the end.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3769523

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Is there a special term for female "nice guys", or are they called "nice girls"? Like frumpy, socially-maladjusted girls who get friendzoned because the guys would rather be with nasty bimbos wearing swastika nail decals and I <3 Satan bikinis (and not because the nice girls are awkward and offputting). I don't think this has been answered yet in the thread, although after 170+ pages I can't remember.

Also, I think this is about the best username and post combo ever:

Quote-Unquote posted:

Be forewarned, blarzgh: I will be "un-friending" and blocking you for having the audacity and oafishness to post such utter garbage.

Now I must retire, for I feel a compulsion to challenge my intellectual capacity by reading lofty tomes such as "Catcher In The Rye" by "J" "D" "Salinger", and other similarly cognitively stimulating "literary material" that is frequently included in "government-mandated" educational "curricula" for thirteen "year" olds. Have "fun" with your "parties" and talking to "females", "ignoramus".

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lazorexplosion posted:

I'm the guy who makes Chad Thundercock yelling 'nice tits!' look attractive in comparison.

maybe all the nice guys are actually hired by Chads to send the girls fleeing in horror, straight into the Chads' arms

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Arcsquad12 posted:

I saw the Ottawa slut walk the other day and saw a boob or two and I didn't turn into a frothing nice guy who hates women for dating Chad. That's my story

Of course a guy with a Chad av would say this. You see boobs every time you go on a date. You don't know the pain of a man who will never see boobs other than his own.

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