awesome-express posted:

Sauna
Mämmi
Simo Häyhä

Elias_Maluco posted:

One thing is for certain: there nothing whiter than this kind of public self blaming and self bashing

Elias_Maluco posted:

What the hell is this thing? Looks like Im not white enough to get it

Crowsbeak posted:

Please gas chamber this thread.

SedanChair posted:

Really, I cannot show enough appreciation for all the racists who deny my identity. I really skated by for my whole life without truly understanding what it is to be targeted by bigots: I was always just an onlooker watching the targeting of others. Because I looked like Fred Savage.

Now I really get it. I have these warring impulses within me: to disengage completely, to just hurl abuse at everyone, to try and politely answer everyone. It's really tiring. You can never win with these sons of bitches.

an skeleton posted:

gently caress white pride but really gently caress any pride that is based off of genetic heritage imo

Alhazred posted:

an skeleton posted:

No.

edit: Obviously you need to define bad, define black pride, etc. for the answer to be precise.

an skeleton posted:

Yeah I mean you probably need to define all of the terms. Assuming pride is just "positive feelings towards the accomplishments of" then there is nothing wrong with it.

an skeleton posted:

Actually, yeah, great point. What the gently caress is pride

an skeleton posted:

please dont be mean. this is debate and discussion

steinrokkan posted:

In a thread obsessed about identity, people seem to be quite happy to ignore that identities have their own semantic universes attached to them. Isn't is quite obvious that when a white guy is talking about how pride based on ethnicity is a bad concept, his meaning is quite different from the similar language used when talking about black pride? The two have different experiences and different frames of reference, so pretending that just because they use the same words, they are conveying the same meaning, means that you are either profoundly ignorant, or arguing in bad faith.

Schizotek posted:

"Work ethic" is an invention by the laziest group of people on the planet to justify their own collective wealth and privilege and to con the people who actually work into not trying to improve their lot in life at the expense of the gravy train. This group is, coincidentally, also ground zero for the generic unthinking reactionary politics that's responsible for more racial and religious violence than the Klan and every terrorist group on the planet could ever hope to achieve by way of impulsive apathetic endorsement.

Brainiac Five posted:

Someone should have told the medieval peasants who ended up declaring a third of the year holidays this.

Brainiac Five posted:

If peasants in an extremely agrarian society valued hard work, why did they push continuously for more time off?

Brainiac Five posted:

Why were they valuing holidays and festivals instead of valuing hard work? Like, your argument is based around values, so you arguing on something other than the level of values is ridiculous.

Schizotek posted:

Rural agrarian society where most of the work benefits the community instead of some sort of landlord hasn't existed in Western society in a meaningful way in over five hundred loving years.