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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.


More seriously, it's whatever they like that distinguishes them from others. This isn't a consistent cultural definition, but it's based in a racial concept without consistent roots, so it's always been fluid. The classic example is that for a long time, the Irish, and Irish culture, were not considered white.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

icantfindaname posted:

This is bullshit that gets repeated everywhere unfortunately. Irish were never considered nonwhite except as a joke. British political culture had very deepseated prejudice against Catholics because it saw them as agents of totalitarianism and absolutism. Scientific racist schemata tended to use language family as a guide to racial classification but even as a different linguistic group than Anglo-Saxons Irish were still considered Caucasian, aka White

My apologies, thanks for the correction. I don't know the history of the relevant period more than my undergrad survey course, which has apparently misled me.

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