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This is a dumb question, even by local standards. You knew though, it would bring all the self hatred out of the woodwork. American goons, sitting at a desktop computer running some variant of windows or MacOS, wearing jean shorts and possibly a fedora, sipping from a 96 ounce pepsi, listening to rock and roll, streaming over the internet, delivered over either cellular data or through cable modem, passing time while waiting to go see a movie, stating emphatically that there is no such thing as White Culture, is about the D&Dest montage ever.
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steinrokkan posted:Meanwhile the Egyptian hive mind sprung from its earthen womb fully formed. Correct. All non 'white' cultures were originalist in nature, and have never interacted with any other cultures. All cultural appropriation is a unique (white!) American evil, sort of like how this works; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCcvexAXEjM the punchline is: I started giving quizzes to my juniors and seniors. I gave them a ten-question American history test… just to see where they are. The vast majority of my students - I’m talking nine out of ten, in every single class, for seven consecutive years – they have no idea that slavery existed anywhere in the world before the United States. Moses, Pharaoh, they know none of it. They’re 100% convinced that slavery is a uniquely American invention… How do you give an adequate view of history and culture to kids when that’s what they think of their own country – that America invented slavery? That’s all they know. tldr; evil didn't exist before white americans
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Jul 27, 2016 19:47
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Ze Pollack posted:Isn't Stefan Molyneux the guy who insists keeping in social contact with anyone who doesn't ascribe to the non-aggression principle is an aggression against him, personally, and also that modern physics is a government conspiracy to steal money from him No idea, and don't really care. His point about most students and their knowledge of slavery is correct though. There's a notion in primary education, that I'm only aware of because I have 2 kids in the system right now, that American Slavery was a unique evil, and somehow slavery never existed before it was invented in the southern colonies in the 1600s, or that American slavery was orders of magnitude worse than any type every practiced before. I'm sure i'm triggering half the crowd here.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:14
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Blue Star posted:Slavery didn't originate with America, but it did originate with white people. So did cultural appropriation, homophobia, and the gender binary. Also, cold weather, food shortages, suffering, bad feelings, pubic lice, stepping on lego pieces in the dark, dandruff,
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Jul 27, 2016 21:17
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Brainiac Five posted:drat, nothing gets past this guy. He's figured out the liberals control the schools but also are weak, unmanly little homos a real man like him could easily crush. You got that from what I wrote? Maybe you're just a unmanly little homo and are projecting? I mean I don't care if you are, but if you're ashamed, there's nothing stopping you from getting in shape, in fact it'll pay dividends beyond salve on your internet shame
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Jul 27, 2016 21:22
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Brainiac Five posted:Okay, so it's actually women you blame for the decline of American education and the inability to say that black people are to blame for slavery. Very important difference there. Maybe you need to take a breather, I think your markov chain generator is on the fritz
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Jul 27, 2016 21:42
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That's good, as there is no evidence the people of Israel were enslaved by the Egyptians. Or any slaves, anywhere, before North America, late 1600s. Let's get us some more ultraedgy alt-history fapfic up in here plz
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Jul 27, 2016 23:00
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Brainiac Five posted:Bold of you to insist on the total historicity of the Exodus. My favorite part is how the most plausible candidates for the Pharaoh of the Exodus were either at the height of New Kingdom power or crushed a people called the Israelites in their military expeditions into Canaan. Or any other slaves, anywhere, ever, before the unique historical evil of slavery in North America. I also understand that before the North American invasion, no native peoples had ever been forced off their land, anywhere, ever. I bet you have some facts about the so called holocaust that you would love to share with us too, so please don't hold back!
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Jul 27, 2016 23:15
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not sure "maybe the bible isn't historically accurate" is quite the same as "the holocaust didn't happen" Braniac has staked out the position that slavery was an invention of white north Americans since it never ever happened before, clearly a well thought out and rational position, supported by the historical record. Anyone who believes otherwise is a bible thumping red neck who probably doesn't even own a che tshirt
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Jul 27, 2016 23:25
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Popular Thug Drink posted:immediately freaking out about how everyone but you is educated wrong is definitely the wrong way to gain an audience for your views. im not gonna go back and read your previous posts but i can assume they are really bad And who better to judge what's a really bad post
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Jul 27, 2016 23:27
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Popular Thug Drink posted:immediately freaking out about how everyone but you is educated wrong is definitely the wrong way to gain an audience for your views. im not gonna go back and read your previous posts but i can assume they are really bad Also, I'm hardly saying that everyone but me is uneducated, only the peculiar brand of d&d alt-history leftists that see everything through the lens of "amerikka bad" and think that slavery didn't exist before it did in NA. Its dumb, ahistorical, and not supported by fact.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:30
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Popular Thug Drink posted:the bold academic technique of substantiating your arguments through shitposting I'm sure you've been accurately insulted as such before, but not by me. I do see though that you're not arguing any of the substance of what I've written. Being on the other side of an issue from noted shitposter PTD is a badge of honor to which we should all aspire
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Jul 27, 2016 23:35
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Blue Star posted:gobbagool, facts are facts. White people are responsible for pretty much all of slavery, going back thousands of years. Look up the ancient Greeks and Romans, they all owned slaves. Slavery in Egypt was virtually unknown. Same for Mesopotamia, India, China, etc. Sub-Saharan African slavery and Native American slavery are also inventions by white historians. There's a very clear causal relationship between the slavery practiced by ancient whites and that practiced by whites in the 1600s-1800s. Elias, exhibit A for your viewing pleasure. I'm pretty sure he's a troll, but watch Popular Thug Drink fall in line because he wants sooooooo badly for it to be true
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Jul 27, 2016 23:38
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Brainiac Five posted:screeching about cvckoldry counters your pitiful attempts to veil your racism Sure, I'll make sure to continue to not do those very things because I'd hate to miss you, blue star, and PTD sharing your wisdom herein
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Jul 27, 2016 23:41
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Brainiac Five posted:This is gibberish. Go back to calling people educated stupid. Ok so you and BS are both trolls or clever bots. Doesn't explain PTD though
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Jul 27, 2016 23:44
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Blue Star posted:I'm not going to doxx myself for your benefit. I dont really care if you think I'm lying about being trans or not. I'm a semi-regular poster in the e/n trans thread (though not very well liked, admittedly) and I've posted about being trans for, like, years at this point. It's really hard for me to imagine that you're not well liked, what with your agreeable nature, and charming personality!
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Jul 28, 2016 00:15
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly people are aware that slavery, as a concept, did exist a long time ago, but are simply suspicious of people who like to point that out because it is, with remarkable preponderance, used as an apologetic? Possibly, though none of those people are posting in this thread
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Jul 28, 2016 00:16
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Brainiac Five posted:The purpose of arguments like "liberal RoboCop revisionism is ruining our schools" is twofold; to render American chattel slavery not that bad, and to foster the belief that everyone is bad so there's no need for any kind of justice. Straightforward arguments based on historical evidence are about as useful as telling antisemites Jews didn't really poison wells with the Black Death. Would that it were not so. No, it's to put it into correct historical context and help people realize that yes, American slavery was a terrible institution that never should have started, and went on way too long, but was not historically unprecedented, nor a whole cloth invention of "whites" as was claimed multiple times in this very thread. Also, and I'm not sure myself as I've read a number of different sources all of whom disagree with eachother, but the forced migrations of post WW2 add up to significant numbers, possibly more than the transatlantic slave trade. Here's an article about it, http://chronicle.com/article/The-European-Atrocity-You/132123 It's different, of course, than the transatlantic slave trade, but when you open up the category of 'forced migration' there's a lot of other episodes in history that qualify and have huge numbers as well. As an anecdote, I had a great uncle who was a german jew that somehow ended up in the far reaches of Siberia following WW2, and, as family legend has it, walked to European Russia and later ended up in the US.
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Jul 28, 2016 13:00
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Nevvy Z posted:Name them OK edgelord, so we can all make sure we're playing the game by your ruleset, let's you start with naming working institutions from *any* culture that work, because I have a feeling your input to others' suggestions will be simply to tersely dismiss whatever they say. So, Nevvy, let's have it, do you believe that there are any institutions in any culture that work?
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Jul 28, 2016 16:45
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Brainiac Five posted:You know you're in for a treat when someone puts scarequotes around the term Native American. Angsty about casinos, hoss? You and BlueStar ought to get a room at this point, the sexual tension is so thick in the air, it's dripping
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Jul 28, 2016 19:05
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Brainiac Five posted:No, your point is to whine and whine like the grotesque mosquito-human hybrid that you are. You then pull out phrases in order to pretend that you have anything justifying your continued existence on this Earth, fooling only your fellow idiots. Markov chain confirmed
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Jul 29, 2016 00:41
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HorseLord posted:- "Democracy" where you are excluded from the political process entirely, provided no accurate or impartial information on it - never mind a methodology to interpret that information - , and then every few years told to vote for someone to do your thinking for you. No, don't vote for the one you like! That would be selfish. You have to vote for the one Liberals tell you to. Otherwise the worst one will get in. In the abstract, your freshman essay on everything wrong with white male americans is really compelling, but what are you comparing these items to? Point to me a culture, society, nation, hell even a large city, that you are using a barometer to measure "white culture" against
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Jul 29, 2016 18:50
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OwlFancier posted:They are classified as trivial injustices in "white" countries as well, even regarded as virtues. cops shooting black people is classified as trivial injustice? wow, so BLM isn't getting any press and there havent been any riots, clearly the reality that we both live in. Also, Horselord isn't someone you want to white knight. I'm led to believe he crammed 9 creme eggs up his bum
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Jul 29, 2016 20:08
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HorseLord posted:^ BLM is a black movement, that's black culture. The person i'm criticising equates law enforcement and government with white culture, which doesn't care at all, and in fact is the thing doing the shooting of the black people. i hope this explanation helps you Oh, so you're an absolutist idiot. Kind of like a less refined effectronica. Not strange then that you're reading from the same sheet of music. This, by the way, is the music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
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Jul 29, 2016 20:13
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HorseLord posted:So you don't actually have an argument, either because you're too weak to construct one, or I'm correct. Both? Whatever it is, balance of probability suggests that it's not that you're correct
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Jul 29, 2016 20:22
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Wild Horses posted:You're talking out you're rear end Indeed, that's 100% of his shtick
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