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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Evil Eagle posted:

I prefer the sonic 1 and cd act 3 to bosses at the end of every stage

agreed.

beep by grandpa posted:

I really liked the split second shield in s3 but no one else did since it never came back :(

the problem with insta-shield is it makes the game way too easy even though it is a cool change unlike something like the homing attacks in sonic 4 (more like sonic poor as in poorly made).

lol the twitch chat when they showed sonic mania was my brain irl as it happened.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i wonder what 9 year old me would feel if he knew it'd be 23 years until he got another good sonic game.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the only trolls are all the youngbloods saying eggman in the thread!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Jsor posted:

That rascal Dr. Robotnik, always buying his airships from Eggman Industries



his official name is ivo "eggman" robotnik. learn the lore.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i'm very perturbed they announced it a year out.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


wow i am very sorry for you.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


mega man 9 came out in 2008. how did it take this long for them to decide to do something like sonic mania.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


me when they thought that:

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Robotnik Nudes posted:

Sonic 3's controls are tight as hell. As a homeschooled kid with not many games I mastered it.

I stopped playing Sonkc or really any games for years. A friend was over at my house and noticed my Sega Genesis in the closet and asked to borrow it. I couldn't find my Sonic 3 cart so he was stuck with just Sonic and Knuckles. A couple weeks later I swung by his house late one night and fucker was stuck on act 1 of Flying Battery Zone. I hadn't even touched the game for years but asked if I could give it a whirl. For old times sake.

Less than an hour later I was at the Death Egg Zone with like 20 lives and most of the emeralds without dying once.

Sonic 3 and Knuckles is part of my muscle memory and if you put a controller in my hand and played the music ( for timing) I could probably visualize it in my head well enough to do the button presses to beat it. Part of that was youthful isolation with few games, but even more, that game is just so tight and well built. It's my favorite game ever. The satisfaction of the twitch response and fast gaming still gets to me.

lol that reminds me i went over a friend's house and he had all sorts of old consoles hooked up including a genesis. he popped in sonic 2 for me (hadn't played it in literally twenty years) and i beat it with like 20 continues and 30 something lives.

i had never actually beat it on the genesis before.

MikeJF posted:

My ideal next game after Mania would basically be to take the same engine and bring it up to high-res sprites a la Rayman Origins.

The slightly abstract design style of sonic makes it ideal for vectorised art, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zILpjFqlOak

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


fellas fellas....they're BOTH bad.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The REAL Goobusters posted:

Sonic CD USA soundtrack is honestly so loving amazing

i'm the YEAH!s in the good future of palmtree panic.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


marble zone is the andy williams song "music to watch girls by"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's weird to me that there weren't more indie sonic-likes made. you got like a billion nes style platformers and metroidvanias but the only complete sonic-like game i can think of is freedom planet.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's criminal that as far as i know the toxic caves song is never used again. tho i could be wrong since i think i stopped after sonic adventure 2 until colors.

i could listen to that song all day.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lol dropping that much money for the non canon version of sonic with the green eyes smdh.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Bitter Mushroom posted:

Crash Bandicoot could kick sonic's rear end

NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTydIKHw5v4

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Frankston posted:

Sonic was great until about 1995 and then it's been garbage ever since. Even 8 year old me knew that it was over when 3D Blast came out.

same.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




VikingofRock posted:

Was Knuckles Chaotix any good? It's probably the genesis-era sonic game I played the least, but that might have just been because it came out so late.

it's not good but the music and graphics are sick as hell.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


sonic 3d blast was actually the first sonic game i beat 100 percent (getting the emeralds and poo poo since its special stages were the easiest).

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


why doesn't a zone called "starlight carnival" have music that's a fusion of starlight zone and carnival night zone.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Dabir posted:

...is that you're dumb? agreed

every other barrel in the game allows you to pass by jumping.

sonic 2 is the best sonic but the difference in goodness between the good games is so slim.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


El Mido posted:

Sonic 2 has the worst special stages and the quality of levels starts to fall off around Casino Night Zone and careens into a flaming freefall around Oil Ocean Zone.

i don't consider the special stages when judging the games.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


beep by grandpa posted:

This will get me some flak for saying this but I think it's totally fair at this point to call games like these more like Freedom Planet than Sonic. Not joking. Sonic never had all these melee attacks, ranged attacks massively different character switches and mobility options and seems to be more combat focused, 2D Sonic just runs fast, rolls and jumps. I think Freedom Planet is its own distinct genre at this point. I need to play it one of these days.

One wonders how many more Sonic/Freedom Planet clones will start popping up if Sonic Mania is a huge success?

i think you're totally right and it's why i never got into freedom planet much.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


they should make one of those hard boiled egg holding/making things but have it be the death egg and you open it up to put the eggs in. kickstarter here we come.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


LOCUST FART HELL posted:

#21 Strip Mine - Beatdrop
Sonic 2 - Mystic Cave Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-XDGhMYZk

this one is insanely good until the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgr8cY-Jrk

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i don't give a poo poo about the newer fans since those games are mostly poo poo and thus shouldn't have a fanbase.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Amppelix posted:

Nice, than you for sharing your opinion

that wasn't an opinion.

beep by grandpa posted:

i love sonic and i love everyone who has accepted sonic into their heart unconditionally.

all followers of the green eyed false prophet shall drown eternally in scrap brain zone act 3.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i like espio's design and his spin dash was cool.

at least the game had sick music.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Not especially, no.

even the bad hacks are better than what sega produces so you're loving weird.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Amppelix posted:

Please share your definition of "bad hack" so I know how insane I should consider you

all of them.

and offish sonic games are rear end dude.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


you'tre right i should have clarified.

offish sonic games post 1994. though you can be forgiven for not knowing that if you were born at or after that time period.

it's like the star wars prequels. dumb kids who were little then probably like them but they just don't know any better.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Elfgames posted:

it's harder with the characters that never got much actual character yeah and i'm pretty sure mighty fell off the back of a truck and was never seen again

that's cuz mighty was just sonic (he looks mostly like sonic) in chaotix cuz for some reason sonic wasn't in it.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i don't like when sonic or any of the cast talks.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


chili dogs and destructible TVs with shoes on them were banned last i checked.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Amppelix posted:

Green Hill Paradise appears to just be a custom level for Sonic GDK, which is a sonic game engine based on Unreal Engine. It's got tons of levels, although maybe none as high quality as this. But those physics definitely are nothing new on the fangame scene, this thing has existed since at least 2012.

i figured it was this since they still used bad 3d sonic and had the dumb homing attacks.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Pureauthor posted:

I remember when Project Needlemouse was first revealed as Sonic 4 and everyone was all 'holy poo poo Sonic is BACK you guys'

i think many of us assumed they would be going the mega man 9 and 10 route instead of what they did. at least they're FINALLY doing that.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

I never hated how either version of Sonic 4 looked and I think Episode 2 actually looks pretty good for a 2.5D game.

2.5D like that almost always looks bad. at least it's not ducktales 2.5D i guess.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Overbite posted:

Every Sonic game after Sonic & Knuckles is really bad, generations included.

you are correct but i'm probably the only one here that'd agree with you.

beep by grandpa posted:

Happy labor day, everyone. While thinking critically about Sonic Mania on my run this morning my mind went wild hoping that Sonic Maniac isn't >50% reimagined old world content. I'll explain. I I fear it will send SEGA the wrong idea if most of their most critically accepted Sonic games in the last 5 years are all throwback games.

the only thing that bummed me out about the announcement was that it wasn't going to be 100 percent a new game.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Spiderdrake posted:

A remix of Energy Plant from Heroes, or Hydrocity from Sonic 3, or Oil Ocean from Sonic 2... Awesome! A remake of ye old green/er/est hills (but not angel island) is just groan.

angel island IS the green hill zone of that game tho.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Amppelix posted:

I can accept this opinion if you agree that some of them are more or less bad than others.

this is also true. colors and generations are both much better than most other 3d sonics but i think people only think they're good due to having sega poo poo down their gullets for so long.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

I also agree, sonic after the Genesis era is terrible.

Even some of the Genesis era is bad (spinball)

yeah the only good thing out of spinball is the toxic caves music.

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