Comstar posted:

I seem to have missed a comment...what's happening?

Comstar posted:

I seem to have missed a comment...what's happening?

V for Vegas posted:

Labor are winning votes in the reps.

EvilElmo posted:

Where is Bandt/McGowen? They both gone home?

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Probably this one


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https://twitter.com/kevinbonham/status/771259463495888896

Seagull posted:

What are the votes on?

EvilElmo posted:

Can't see them on the feed, so they must have gone home. Done a hard dash to the airport. Pretty amateur by the Greens all things considered. Cathy has more of an excuse, not as experienced as the Greens should be.

Now, which crossbencher flaked on this last vote.

ewe2 posted:

Awww did the poor widdle major party forget to fill the Greens in on its special plans? Diddums.

EvilElmo posted:

It's not up to the ALP to tell the Greens how to run their team, but if the Whip in the Greens didn't see this as a possibility and tell Bandt to get a slightly later flight, they need to be replaced (like Pyne).

starkebn posted:

hopefully this hoohah about chinese donations might lead to a broader look into donation reform, but I'm not holding my breath

You Am I posted:

It's all a distraction to get voter's/media's attention away from the same sex marriage debate. Why do you think Cory is going so hard over it?

ewe2 posted:

News flash, champ. They're not in the same party. The ALP has to convince the Greens its in their interest, not the other way around. I'm sure you'll also be sending a very strongly worded email to McGowan to remind her where her independent sympathies should lie. Gosh imagine what you could achieve with cooperation.

ewe2 posted:

Awww did the poor widdle major party forget to fill the Greens in on its special plans? Diddums.

Tirade posted:

Lol I missed this post:


Bandt not being there to vote means we don't get a Royal Commission into the banking sector. That's not "diddums" unless you're some kind of Greens Van Badham knock off.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

lol it doesn't work like that matey.

Tirade posted:

Lol I missed this post:


Bandt not being there to vote means we don't get a Royal Commission into the banking sector. That's not "diddums" unless you're some kind of Greens Van Badham knock off.

V for Vegas posted:

OMG it gets better - Christensen was whipping the vote

quote:

Alleged 'would-be' IS fighter likened death in conflict to Super Mario shortcut, court told


A Melbourne man accused of trying to flee Australia by boat to fight for Islamic State said dying and going to paradise would be like taking a shortcut in a Super Mario video game, a court has heard.

Paul Dacre, 31, has been denied bail after police told the Melbourne Magistrates Court they held grave concerns he would commit a terrorist attack if released.

The Epping man is one of five accused of towing a boat from Melbourne to far north Queensland in May with the intent of sailing overseas to fight with the Islamic State group.

They are each charged with making preparations for incursions into foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in hostile activities.

Dacre a 'grave threat', court told

Federal agent Jake Samson told the court police now believed the group was planning to travel to the southern Philippines to fight with militant groups aligned with Islamic State.

He said police had covertly recorded Dacre telling a friend he was intent on travelling to a conflict zone, likening it to advancing in a video game.

"We should be over there fighting. If we die ... that is like an instant ticket to paradise," he allegedly said.

"It's a shortcut ... it's like in Mario there's a thing you can get a whistle and you can go to another area immediately, it's like that."
In an affidavit tendered to the court, agent Samson said Dacre posed a grave threat to the community.

"It is likely the applicant considers that he is under an obligation in accordance with his extremist ideology, to commit acts of terrorism or violence within the Australian community," he said.

"The desire to travel to a conflict zone ... further indicates that the applicant is willing to put his life at risk for his extremist beliefs."

But defence lawyer Charlie Atlas told the court Dacre no longer held extremist views, if he ever did.

"The police in this case are embellishing," he said.

"He's needed at home for his own family, he's not a danger."

But the magistrate found Dacre's case did not constitute exceptional circumstances and denied his application for bail.

He was sent back to protective custody and will return to court later this month.

V for Vegas posted:

OMG it gets better - Christensen was whipping the vote

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-01/man-charged-over-alleged-boat-escape-plot-refused-bail/7806762

You Am I posted:

They made that useless toad the whip?


It's a god drat warp whistle ffs ABC do your research

quote:

Wilson Security says it no longer wants to work in Australia’s offshore detention regime. The company says it will leave the Manus Island and Nauru detention centres at the end of its contract, which leaves the government without a camp manager or security firm for the offshore detention network.

Wilson joins the Australian government’s major contractor running the camps, Broadspectrum – owned by Spanish giant Ferrovial – in announcing it will abandon offshore detention when the current contract ends in October 2017.

ewe2 posted:

News flash, champ. They're not in the same party. The ALP has to convince the Greens its in their interest, not the other way around. I'm sure you'll also be sending a very strongly worded email to McGowan to remind her where her independent sympathies should lie. Gosh imagine what you could achieve with cooperation.

EvilElmo posted:

Bandt should have hung around to see what happened, I would assume the Greens would vote with the ALP in calling for the Government to hold a RC into the Banking sector. I thought the Greens in here had a hardon saying that "WE ASKED FOR IT FIRST!" when it came to a RC into banking.

Instead, he ran to the airport to get the early flight home before Parliament wrapped up for the week. An extra hour wouldn't have killed him. Hell, he could have flown back to Canberra and made in into the chamber in time for the final votes.

As I said, this was poor whipping by the Greens. Can't see how that statement is incorrect. Your only member in the lower house, the only house where the vote really matters in snap motions, was on a flight home when a majority Government lost a vote for the first time in (?) ~40 years. It's poor whipping, they should have made sure he stuck around.

The Liberals didn't know what was going to happen tonight, yet their whips and Pyne (apparently) told them to hang around just in case.

V for Vegas posted:

OMG it gets better - Christensen was whipping the vote

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Maybe it's payback for Labor's shiftiness on the same-sex marriage bill? Don't know.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

BBJoey posted:

George Christensen has never hosed a human

asio posted:

Lol smdh at the idea of a "party whip" in the glorious revolution. Solidarity comes from within, greens are too busy poaching alp support in the community to bother with overpaid, white circlejerks

Solemn Sloth posted:

Noted labor supporter gets frothy about parliamentary support for whips

EvilElmo posted:

You know the Greens have a whip right?


What? Can someone translate this shitpost for me?



I mean, feel free to defend Bandt for going home early instead of being part of something historic. Like I mean, his vote would have only meant the Speaker would have had to cast a vote in the final votes. The Speaker would traditionally have to cast his vote with the ALP/Crossbench to keep the debate going rather than to end it. This would have given Bandt time to talk about the need for an RC. It would have also put a lot more pressure on the Government, Turnbull and Pyne. Or the Speaker would have gone against tradition (unlikely, this Speaker actually seems to be taking it seriously) and that would have been a big story as well.

Tirade posted:

It's not up to the ALP to make sure Bandt doesn't take an early mark you weirdo.

V for Vegas posted:

The embarrassing thing is Labor won without the cross bench votes.

This won't mean squat to the general public and won't advance any real legislative change. But for the government to lose a vote in the house in the first week, when you know Labor are testing every vote, just screams incompetence and Labor and the gallery won't let them forget it.

shalcar posted:

For those playing at home, only the Government can call a Royal Commission, it doesn't matter how many votes it does or doesn't get. The only person who can start a Royal Commission is Malcom Turnbull. Nothing Labor or the Greens do can change that fact.

EvilElmo posted:

More whining.

ewe2 posted:

Son, you gotta learn to read a thread to understand the context of the comments. It won't make sense until you do. Best of luck with your reading comprehension, unless you're a Labor shill too in which case I'm sorry for your loss.


This, although somehow I doubt the gallery actually punishes anyone except by their constant begging for leaks.


But it is funny, particularly when babies like EvilElmo rush in to blame other parties for the ALP's procedural motions not getting up (psst Tirade, that's the subject!), and particularly inexcusable from politicians on the Government side.


Suck it, princess.

Comstar posted:

Why is it apparently very common for rep's to leave and go home early? How many went home early, 6, or more? If Bandt and McGowen had stuck around like it's their job to, we could have got an even more embarrassing fiasco for Turnball and Co. They should have been there, and I haven't seen any response to why they weren't?

ewe2 posted:

Suck it, princess.

Comstar posted:

Why is it apparently very common for rep's to leave and go home early? How many went home early, 6, or more? If Bandt and McGowen had stuck around like it's their job to, we could have got an even more embarrassing fiasco for Turnball and Co. They should have been there, and I haven't seen any response to why they weren't?